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Nyan

(1,192 posts)
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 01:04 AM Mar 2016

Is it safe to say that Obama wants to drive Alan Grayson out of congress?

And that was almost immediately after Grayson endorsed Bernie.
So does that about sum up why Warren wouldn't (or couldn't) endorse Bernie? Is it them sending message to Warren -if you go with Bernie, we'll primary you out of congress-?

Just what the hell is going on behind closed doors? I'm having a hard time understanding that because I don't live in House of Cards.
Do they connive and conspire to drive progressives out of Washington? Are they really that determined to run the entire country like a fucking private club?

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Nyan

(1,192 posts)
4. Okay then.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 01:18 AM
Mar 2016

It's very straightforward, I see. Thank you.
I understand that it really is oligarchy. We're already there.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
3. We're the enemy, man.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 01:17 AM
Mar 2016

The DNC's only role is to protect Wall St from us grabbing the torches and pitchforks.

Nyan

(1,192 posts)
6. To sum it up,
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 02:28 AM
Mar 2016

1. Alan Grayson is running for a senate seat and currently leading against repug by 11%, assuming there's no primary contender.
2. Obama endorses Murphy to be Grayson's contender. Grayson has to go against him before he faces repug.
3. Murphy is a non-Tea Pary republican type who once contributed to Mitt Romney.

Obama ran against Romney. And now he endorses Romney's ally against Alan Grayson. Murphy used to be a republican, but he's now a democrat running against Alan Grayson. I wonder what internal forces hold the three of them together.

http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/barack-obama-just-endorsed-patrick-murphy-but-alan-grayson-leads-in-latest-polls-8290842

bbgrunt

(5,281 posts)
7. thanks for the summary. I am astounded that
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 02:42 AM
Mar 2016

Obama would insert himself into any primary. It certainly looks punitive towards Grayson.

Nyan

(1,192 posts)
8. After TPP, I don't really have illusion about Obama anymore.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 02:50 AM
Mar 2016

He was probably about to do the same shtick that the Clintons have been doing -go around the world collecting checks, earn speaking fees, run a sham charity to promote his brand, etc.
But yeah. It is astounding that he would go so far as to endorse ex-repug against Alan Grayson. It's a big FU to Alan Grayson for endorsing anti-Wall Street presidential candidate. Obama and Biden have made this decision together. I think they have their mind set on finalizing TPP, and they're determined to not have anybody in the senate filibustering against it.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
11. Murphy was a registered Republican up until he ran for the House in 2012.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 11:12 AM
Mar 2016

Murphy voted for a measure that would have made the president balance the budget by 2023 and backed a farm bill Democrats balked at because of work requirements for food stamp recipients. He also was one of only 19 Democrats to vote in favor of the controversial Keystone XL pipeline project.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
10. MONEY BOMB GRAYSON!
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 10:53 AM
Mar 2016

Murphy was hand picked by TPTB...that means he's NOT on the side of the 99%!

Grayson is a BERNIE SUPPORTER/SUPER DELEGATE...Murphy is NOT.

We NEED Grayson in the Senate.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
18. The only Democrat in history to put FDR's Social Security *on the table* as a bargaining chip- yeah
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 08:03 PM
Mar 2016

I know more than I need to about Obama's politics and they aren't PROGRESSIVE.
Throw in the TPP...and it's all she wrote for me. Just one more "Democratic" president I'm sorry I wasted my vote on....Bill Clinton is the other.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
15. I'm too old to find this so shocking.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 05:57 PM
Mar 2016

I like Obama. He's always seemed better than Hillary. He's always seemed to care about people.

I honestly don't see how any informed and decent human being could actually prefer Hillary Clinton to Bernie Sanders.

There must be something else going on here. It's too horrible.

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