Although Clinton Won Massachusetts by 2%, Hand Counted Precincts in Massachusetts Favored Bernie San

[LiberalArkie]

Although Clinton Won Massachusetts by 2%, Hand Counted Precincts in Massachusetts Favored Bernie Sanders by 17%

Massachusetts, one of the participating states for the Super Tuesday election results, may need further scrutiny to allay concerns over election fraud using electronic voting machines. 68 out of the state’s 351 jurisdictions used hand counted ballots and showed a much larger preference of 17% for Bernie Sanders than the rest of the jurisdictions tabulated by electronic voting machine vendors ES&S, Diebold and Dominion. Hillary Clinton was declared the winner of Massachusetts by 1.42 %.

Election integrity activists John Brakey and Jim March investigated Scott Brown’s upset victory over Martha Coakley to replace Senator Ted Kennedy’s seat in 2010. They found a similar difference between hand counted paper ballots and those jurisdictions using machine tabulators. At that time, 71 out of 351 voting districts were using hand counted ballots and they favored Coakley over Brown by 4.44% despite Brown’s declared victory throughout the state by 5%.

Brakey and March discovered that election officials tend to have an unsettling reliance on election vendors. In fact, when one election official in Boston was asked if it was possible to examine their database files (called mdb, which is short for Microsoft data base files), that official then asked, “What are mdb files?” Those that understand the process know that mdb files are an integral part of the tabulation process that should be overseen by the election officials. March and Brakey were told by this election official that “the vendors handle that stuff” (I was with them during this exchange). Another common statement repeated by officials in Diebold precincts was: “We don’t have Diebold here, we have AccuVote”. They simply don’t know that Diebold’s optical scanners are called “AccuVote”. In addition, LHS, the company that represents Diebold, actually have their vendors’ technicians loading the memory cards prior to tabulating the results.

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http://sweetremedy.tv/electionnightmares/2016/03/06/although-clinton-won-massachusetts-by-2-hand-counted-precincts-in-massachusetts-favored-bernie-sanders-by-17/

[Ned_Devine]

1. Uh oh

[winter is coming]

2. We need a much better voting system than what we have.

Dubious results do a disservice to the winner, the loser, and the voters.

[bernbabe]

3. The machines need to go

and this needs to be investigated right now.

[HerbChestnut]

4. Is it possible...

That vote counting machines are used in higher population areas that tend to go toward certain candidates?

[Scootaloo]

5. It's possible, absolutely.

Double-checking couldn't hurt.

[Kalidurga]

18. Yes

and it's possible votes were flipped. I saw that someone had seen this happen in real time and had to have an election judge re-calibrate the machine.

[bernbabe]

23. That is very possible

and would explain it. But I would like it to be checked.

[stillwaiting]

26. The problem is that it's not verifiable. It's not transparent.

Source code is not made available to the government. It's proprietary.

So, we have given heavily conservative companies the right to count our votes.

In addition, it has been exposed how easy it is to flip votes/steal votes remotely. Many times. Many of the voting machines we use are OUTLAWED in other countries because they are not secure and votes are easily stolen.

I remain dismayed by our inactions on this issue.

Why WOULDN'T they steal enough votes to knock Bernie out? Even HRC supporters surely must admit that Bernie is a massive threat to the status quo.

At what point does it become simply too much when Bernie consistently outperforms polling heavily when people count votes, and Hillary consistently outperforms polling when computers count votes on unreliable voting machines?

[AmBlue]

31. ^^^^THIS!!!^^^

Hammer meet nail.....

[marions ghost]

34. I am very suspicious of our unverifiable polling places

"At what point does it become simply too much when Bernie consistently outperforms polling heavily when people count votes, and Hillary consistently outperforms polling when computers count votes on unreliable voting machines?"

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After this is all over--I want this analyzed.

[lostnfound]

33. Definitely possible, but "trust but verify" is sensible but precluded

We as voters are locked out of the counting process, which is done by proprietary software on central tabulators.

I saw a clear pattern when I analyzed Florida 2004 county by county, categorized by central tabulator software. Looked like 5% of the votes in those major counties had shifted from Kerry to Bush which is a 10-point swing. It meant a lot of people who voted for Gore in 2000 turned around and voted for W in 2004. How likely is THAT??

[Fawke Em]

6. Another story important to protecting our democracy that will go unnoticed by the M$M.

God, I hate what my former profession has become.

[PyaarRevolution]

11. It looks like.

Hillary supporters are ignoring this too. Are you going to complain when we hit the general election and Hillary runs into some voting irregularities because of these machines?
These machines need to be dumped, period. We need to go back to paper balloting.

[Hydra]

7. This was another critical part of the contest

It's a mark of how badly Team Hill is doing that these linchpin victories could have badly hurt her had she not barely won them. That there are irregularities present just makes it that much more obvious.

[davidpdx]

8. So will there be a recount or not?

I'm confused.

[PyaarRevolution]

12. Can one even be done?

Some of these machines don't even print up a so-called tally.

[Lorien]

9. I suspect that if all votes had been counted honestly

Bernie would have won by a wide margin.

[dchill]

17. Nevada, too.

[Lorien]

10. We really do need EXIT POLLS EVERYWHERE

Why is this so difficult to organize?

[zentrum]

13. WE NEED ELECTION OBSERVERS.

Like Jimmy Carter organized for third world countries.

[AmBlue]

29. Observers are great, but...

Unfortunatrly, software is invisible. Nothing to see here.... Move along.

What we need is random, hand-counted audit sampling in ALL jurisdictions to verify that the programming in the scanners is correctly tallying the vote.

[glinda]

14. This must stop. Now and not later....

[silvershadow]

15. Yeah, they have their ways. A hundred times easier since HAVA. nt

[ebayfool]

16. It happened when I voted for Kerry. Took 3, count 'em 3! , tries to get the machine to register ...

my vote correctly! Every time it defaulted to Bush. When I started getting very vocal, the clerks decided to move me to a different machine. Worked fine on that one the first time, no 'operator error' as some like to call it. And they did not care - just were embarrassed that people were complaining ( I wasn't the only one!).

So I know this shit goes on.

I've since went to mail-in ballot, but still have no confidence that it's tabulated honestly. I'm in a sea of red in Cali and you can't get people worked up about this because it seems to only help the GOP. Go figure, huh?!

[Cobalt Violet]

19. I'm pretty sure they stole MA.

I don't believe it would be less liberal than the other NH and ME. I just don't believe it as a lifelong MA.

[Stevepol]

20. I don't think there's any question that MA was stolen.

What is strange is that MA, which actually has the paper for all the votes cast, has not demanded that there be a meaningful "audit" of random precincts, especially of precincts where the vote is so out of touch with those of the hand-counted paper precincts. It would be easy to do if Bernie demanded that it happen. He could easily provide the workers to help with the "audit." And if the audit shows, as I think it would -- all the statistical evidence is very strongly indicative of machine failings, whether from malicious programming or just machine malfunction -- that the machines have misreported the actualy results, then the whole primary should be recounted using the paper.

It's not possible to recount the machines in LA, which I feel almost certain were also not accurately counted and probably fraudulently programmed by the manufacturers, because these machines DO NOT EVEN HAVE ANY PAPER TO COUNT. In other words, the LA machines (now banned in Ireland many other places) ARE COMPLETELY UNVERIFIABLE.

[restorefreedom]

21. if ma has all the paper,

why not just count them all and check them against the machines?

if everything is good, then no harm done

[questionseverything]

24. more signs of inaccurate results

curious stats in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts


MA Primary: Unadjusted Exit poll Indicates Bernie won

02
MAR
MA Primary: Another Stolen Election


Mar.2, 2016

Just like the MA 2014 Governor race, the primary was likely stolen.
The exit poll, AS ALWAYS, was adjusted to match the recorded vote

Clinton won the RECORDED (bogus) vote (1406 respondents) by 50.3-48.7%
In the exit poll of 1297 respondents, Sanders led at 8:01 pm by 52.3-45.7%

But how could Clinton gain 114 respondents and Sanders just 7 among the final 109?

This is 2004 all over again. Kerry led by 51-48% after the first 13047 respondents, but Bush by 50.8-48.3% at 13660 respondents. When the unadjusted exit poll became available years later, we found that Kerry won the 13660 respondents 51.7-47.0%.

The probability that Sanders won: 99% (given the 2.72% Margin of Error)
Win prob= 99.2% = normdist (.534,.5, Moe/1.96,true)

https://richardcharnin.wordpress.com/2016/03/02/ma-primary-unadjusted-exit-poll-indicates-bernie-won/


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and votes moving backwards
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280132764

[AmBlue]

30. What are respondents? nt

[questionseverything]

35. voters being polled

[HereSince1628]

22. There may be multiple patterns within the voting results.

Without any information, I acknowledge cheating via electronic voting machines is one possibility.

But, as a critical reader I wonder if that's the whole story.

What other patterns, if any, co-occur with voting preferences and the assignment of hand-counting vs machine tabulating of votes?

[stillwaiting]

25. TPTB do not need to assassinate Bernie. They just need to steal his votes.

Much easier this way.

The very fact that machine voting has ZERO credibility or legitimacy should have been enough LONG AGO for us to be in the streets demanding a return to paper ballots.

Maybe this election will finally lead us there. If not that would be such a shame. The system would remain in place to enable TPTB to sandbag the next progressive hope, and I can not imagine one reason why they wouldn't do that. They do far, far, FAR worse.

[mhatrw]

27. I knew this. Fucking cheaters!

They can't cheat as easily in the caucus states, which is why Sanders keeps killing it in those states, despite the corporate media's desperate attempts to declare his campaign dead and buried!

[Omaha Steve]

28. K&R!

[delrem]

32. It is INSANE to give over your vote to a black box machine. INSANE!

So why would anyone allow it.
Too busy blowing up the ME for "democracy and freedom" to care?

This isn't a little thing, you know.

[eridani]

36. Emails Shed New Light on Bill Clinton’s Super Tuesday Stop in New Bedford

http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/blog/2016/03/30/bill-clinton-new-bedford-emails/

Around noon, Shannon Shreve, counsel in the City Solicitor’s office, received a call from the Elections Division at Secretary Bill Galvin’s office, advising that Clinton must stay 150—not 100—feet from the entrance of the polling place at Buttonwood Park. Michelle Tassinari, the division’s director, added that the Clinton campaign had been made aware of the guidelines.

It would not be the last time Shreve heard from Tassinari on Super Tuesday. “Are there arrangements for voters to still be able to get into the polls? We just received a complaint from a voter who was unable to get near the polling place as it was blocked off because of Bill Clinton’s presence,” Tassinari wrote. “He was unable to vote and will not have an opportunity to go back.”

“Can you call me?” Tassinari emailed Shreve half-an-hour later. “We are getting many calls about the area around the polling places being shut down, per order of the Mayor. This is a BIG problem.” First Assistant City Solicitor Jane Medeiros Friedman confirmed to Tassinari that Mayor Mitchell gave no such order, but Tassinari reached out again once videos of Clinton’s appearance at the polling place surfaced and calls from across the country began pouring in, including one from the Washington Lawyers’ Committee for Civil Rights and Urban Affairs, a nonprofit organization providing pro bono legal services in cases of discrimination.
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[in_cog_ni_to]

37. Watch "Hacking America" and you'll understand why TPTB left those fucking evoting machines in our

election system. The movie is on Netflix or Amazon - I just watched it again the other day - pissed me off all over again.

Seeing Andy made me sad though. Those BBV, Bev Harris and Andy Stephenson days on DU were some of the most incredible days on DU until .... things went bad.

There's a reason TPTB didn't trash evoting machines! They're hacking them or having the vendor's technicians program them for particular candidates - probably for a LOT of money.
Don't think for one minute elections aren't being stolen because they are. And having the companies make their software"proprietary" makes it even more insidious. We need LAWSUITS to insist their software be made available for scrutiny!

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[LiberalElite]

38. Lawsuits would help

but IMO it's like taking an aspirin for cancer. It does nothing for the rot inside.

[in_cog_ni_to]

39. It's a vicious circle. We NEED Bernie to be elected so he'll get rid of the evoting machines, but

it's those very machines he has to get elected by before he can get to the WH.

You know the Clinton NY machine is going to steal it for her. That's why we need ANONYMOUS. Surely they can do something to help BEFORE the election is stolen.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[LiberalElite]

40. It may be a little harder for them in NYS because we have scanners and a paper trail nt