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Bernie Sanders supporter and actress Susan Sarandon tells MSNBC's Chris Hayes she doesn't think she would be able to vote for Hillary Clinton if she is the Democratic party's presidential nominee.
"I think Bernie would probably encourage people to [support Hillary if he loses] because he doesn't have any ego in this thing," Sarandon said. "But I think a lot of people are, 'sorry, I just can't bring myself to [vote for Hillary].'"
"How about you personally," host Chris Hayes asked.
"I don't know. I'm going to see what happens?
"Really?" An incredulous Hayes reacted.
"Really," Sarandon said.
"It's dangerous to think we can continue the way we are with the militarized police force, with the death penalty and the low minimum wage and threats to women's rights and think you can't do something huge to turn that around. The country is not in good shape if you're in the middle class. It's disappearing," Sarandon said Monday night on MSNBC.
more at link
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/03/28/susan_sarandon_i_dont_think_i_could_vote_for_hillary_if_sanders_loses.html
I think the title is a little misleading as she says that she doesn't know yet, but she is saying a lot of what others are saying. Hillary is too much part of what we want to get away from.
Depaysement
(1,835 posts)Reading Tom Frank's new book and another Clinton Presidencey makes me queasy.
dana_b
(11,546 posts)I also think Susan's comments give light to the false idea that it's only young, ignorant millenials who want "free stuff" who are not going to for Hillary. Even older people with world experience are thinking about it.
polichick
(37,152 posts)MisterP
(23,730 posts)many are just gonna take it as further proof that Clinton's loss will be Sanders' fault and shriek privilege--but they're already accidentally admitting she's unwinnable even if they're casting the blame far afield
TDale313
(7,820 posts)Trash and ignore the left and then blame them when the electorate isn't buying what they're selling. And btw it's often those oh so coveted independents and not those on the left that don't show or jump ship but pointing that out ruins their little narrative.
Califonz
(465 posts)It's better than having to start a write-in effort.
Hydra
(14,459 posts)If Bernie does manage to win 50%+ the pledged delegates and does not get the nod...interesting things are going to happen.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)NJCher
(35,730 posts)Bernie's gonna' win this thing and save you from that dilemma.
Cher
Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)If Hillary wins the GE, which will be a real horse race with Trump at best, it will be 2024 until we get a chance to run a progressive for the WH again and that's only if Hillary loses after 4 years. If Hillary were to pull off a 2nd term 2028 will our first serious chance because we will not hold the WH for a 5th consecutive term. That simply will not happen.
We can't afford the risk a Hillary Presidency would bring. We can not afford to simply slow the plunge, we must reverse it. If we can't reverse it then we may very well be better off taking the plunge so the rest of the sheeple wake up and realize what we're doing.
What will I do in Nonmember if Bernie doesn't make it? I'm not sure either, but I know I'm tired of the difference between Republicans and Democrats in the WH just being how much the brakes are applied.
Ino
(3,366 posts)Well put.
deepestblue
(349 posts)Bernie is going to be the nominee so these questions are completely irrelevant.
Baobab
(4,667 posts)I would never vote for Donald Trump
eridani
(51,907 posts)dana_b
(11,546 posts)if lots of people in California think "well, my vote doesn't matter anyway so I'll not vote or vote for such and such candidate", then it can affect an election.
delrem
(9,688 posts)It can't just be so totally bought out, as to go with Hillary Clinton.
It's... not an option to be contemplated by good people.
Bernin4U
(812 posts)"Just remember, we're all Democrats," the apologists were so quick to point out.
Was this a faxed talking point, sent to all the HRH supporters? Considering how few of them there were, their message was awfully consistent.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)I will indeed wait until the end of the primary. There is a chance I will be changing my party affiliation.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Possibly say to get them into a double occurring meltdown.
I guess truth hurts afterall.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)I just happened to catch the interview (or at least the part that aired in his repeat show...full interview is supposed to be online...and, I've officially abandoned MSNBC except wanted to see her)...
She is FANTASTIC! She absolutely spoke how I feel! Period!
If you are a diehard Berner, give it a watch...Thank you Susan!
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)dana_b
(11,546 posts)dana_b
(11,546 posts)Yeah, here on DU, on twitter and other places some are freaking out thinking that she said that she would vote for Trump if Bernie didn't get the nomination. She NEVER said that! She did say that if Trump becomes President that it would push us to get our revolution going. If everything stays the same (as it would under Clinton) then people go back to sleep. So there's a lot of "well thanks for Trump!" and "she's a rich celebrity with white privilege" kind of comments.
She's fighting for people who AREN'T privileged. What is so difficult to see about that?
EyeOnLife
(37 posts)dana_b
(11,546 posts)Faux pas
(14,690 posts)have been making me wanna smack them lately. I'm especially disgusted when they appear 'incredulous'. Not very professional and NOT, in any way, unbiased.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)and a faithful volunteer for the party during the last several election cycles.
I don't know either.
I do know that I'll never vote for Clinton.
She's earned every bit of the distrust and disappointment that I have for her candidacy.
Many Democrats share this view; and that number grows stronger as every state votes and experiences Hillary and her sideshow of dirty tricks and malfeasance happening in their own backyard.
dana_b
(11,546 posts)that so many have become independents. I became one 7 years ago and I just found out that my brother and his wife (both 61 y.o. and lifelong Dems) have registered as indys. They are saying "no more" and they don't feel like either of the parties represent them.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)PFunk1
(185 posts)Because a lot of dems are thinking the same but are afraid to voice it due to being shunned my other dems. Now (hopefully) more can be more vocal about it that a 'famous' person has voiced those same concerns. It 'may' also cause the DNC to think twice about pushing HRC and the 'terror meme'-but I doubt it.
dana_b
(11,546 posts)and then maybe they will see that it's not only disaffected Millenials and the very far left who are feeling this way