Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumBill Clinton Mocks Berniecrats: 'Shoot Every Third Person on Wall Street'
Bernie Sanders hit back at Clinton on Friday, tweeting an earlier version of this article. "We should be encouraging young people to get involved in politics, not disparaging them. This seems to be a pattern," Sanders tweeted.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/04/15/bill-mocks-sanders-young-students.html
DetroitSocialist83
(169 posts)Way to deflect from what is really being advocated for. Go home Bill.
Duval
(4,280 posts)And please shut up, Bill!
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)Bill is sounding more and more like Grumpy McCain.
Way to alienate voters under 40!
appalachiablue
(41,153 posts)Peregrine Took
(7,416 posts)I think they save it for going to the park.
appalachiablue
(41,153 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)And my Mom, who is 67.
enlightenment
(8,830 posts)Bill wants Bernie to win the nod - because every time he opens his mouth, he drives more people away from his wife.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)So what she or bill or anyone else does, doesn't matter at all to them.
Bernin4U
(812 posts)...as that they're simply infatuated with the Clintons.
And can't fathom the idea that anyone would dare stand in the way of her getting her turn.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)he can not be happy
redruddyred
(1,615 posts)she chose him, i guess. and then Stood By Her Man
RepubliCON-Watch
(559 posts)Freakin' disgrace he is.
brewens
(13,599 posts)Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)I bet he and her NEED this to pay back all the favors they owe. They both are disgusting. Pissed off the younger voters like Bernie. Too bad asshole, they've done their homework and they know who is the better choice.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Indeed it does.
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)anybody got that pic?
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)...
redruddyred
(1,615 posts)i thought those dangerous signpoles were banned anymore, almost like some assault weapons
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Actor
(626 posts)power and money for so long he has forgotten just how hard it is to spend your entire life worried about money.
I dont think he is nearly as bad as any republican in this regard, he or Hillary, but he has forgotten what it is like.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)With a Republican, you k now they're a Republican.
With a Clinton, you have something that walks like a Republican, talks like a Republican, acts like a Republican, thinks like a Republican, votes like a republican, campaigns like a Republican, but is somehow on a democratic party ticket.
Actor
(626 posts)Bernin4U
(812 posts)Some cute logic.
Actor
(626 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Actor
(626 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)white condescension he grew up in.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)appalachiablue
(41,153 posts)traditional Democratic constituents 'with no place else to go' abandoned after Reagan by the DLC, New, Third Way Dems. in their alliance with WS and the banks, Silicon Valley, the Biotech Industry- 'the creative, Ivy League, professional class', as writer Thomas Frank emphasizes in his revealing new book, 'Listen, Liberal!'
And yes, a person who behaves, thinks and talks like a conservative Republican is one, no label can dispute the reality.
TM99
(8,352 posts)Old age and health problems is just meaning less self-censoring and persona management.
This is the Bill Clinton I have always loathed since Arkansas.
redruddyred
(1,615 posts)when a cigar will do?
I always enjoy a good reverse Freudianism!
redruddyred
(1,615 posts)...is not just a cigar
how u like that?
TM99
(8,352 posts)Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)He could dial it back a bit.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)what Ronald Reagan had.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)retrowire
(10,345 posts)shoot every third person on Wall Street?? no Bill we just want them to stop dodging taxes.
Grow the fuck up Bill.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,205 posts)"Cut it out!"
Matt_in_STL
(1,446 posts)Nothing worse than a jilted lover.
DianaForRussFeingold
(2,552 posts)dana_b
(11,546 posts)that is some slimy shit there. And they expect that if she wins the nom that we will actually vote for her after all of this disgusting behavior?
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)He really does not understand why so many of us want reform on Wall Street.
He is rich, so he thinks everything is OK.
He wasn't paying attention when Americans were losing their homes, the banks were extorting money out of Congress, and hard working people were losing their jobs and incomes, many their businesses.
The Clintons are out of touch. Really out of touch.
Our financial sector is out of proportion with the rest of our economy. As Charlie Munger, Warren Buffet's good friend and colleague, was quoted as saying earlier this week, Americans are gambling too much. That is especially true of Wall Street, and many of us are sick and tired of it. It's our money and our society they are gambling with.
Charlie Munger is a Republican, but he said that he agrees with Bernie and Elizabeth Warren about the problems with Wall Street:
The truth of the matter is that . . . Elizabeth Warren doesnt agree with me on many subjects, and I wouldnt agree with her on many subjects, but she is basically right when she says that American finance is out of control and that it isnt good for the rest of us. Both Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders are not two of my favorite people on earth, but they are absolutely right [about finance].
You all see what goes on in finance: the craziness, the promotions, the fuzzy accounting, the crazy trading cultures
. Its very bad for all of us that we have this huge overdevelopment of finance. And yet its very hard to do anything about it.
What happened: if you look back to, say, Edwardian England or the First World War, maybe 300 people, males, owned half the land in England. They had nothing to do. I mean, their under-butlers had under-butlers. What did they do, they went down to the clubs in London and sat around the card tables and gambled with one another for high stakes. Thats what human nature does when people have a lot of leisure. Fade in, fade out, and multiply the wealth per capita of the world by 30 or so and now we got all kinds of people who are like the lords of England who had all that time to play cards against one another and enjoy the thrills and things of gambling.
So we have a vast gambling culture, and people have made it respectable. Instead of betting on horses or prizefights, we can bet on the price of securities or the price of derivatives relating to securities, and we can bet on athletic contests. We have a huge amount of legalized gambling. And of course the public market, which operates every day with transactions, is an ideal casino. And there are a whole bunch of people who want to own a casino and make a lot of money without losing money on inventories or credit . . . and many other irritating parts of business. Just to sit there every night and go higher and higher. Who doesnt want to be croupier in a casino? And very respectable people get drawn into it. They see other people getting rich.
http://www.businessinsider.com/charlie-munger-warns-about-american-finance-2016-4
I hope all DUers read all of Charlie Munger's statements.
Bill Clinton also needs to read Munger's remarks.
slipslidingaway
(21,210 posts)their own research. And I'm glad that we now can point to reliable, independent analysis to say, "No, it's just not true."
http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meet-press-april-3-2016-n549916
Why are they trying to marginalize young voters?
"HILLARY CLINTON:
I do not have--I have money from people who work for fossil fuel companies. I am so sick--I am so sick of the Sanders campaign lying about me. I'm sick of it.
(END TAPE)
CHUCK TODD:
Madame Secretary, I know you couldn't see the clip, but you probably heard it. You were caught saying, "I am so sick of the Sanders campaign lying about my record." What are they lying about?
HILLARY CLINTON:
Well, let me first say that, you know, I'm used to criticism. I've been taking it for a very long time. But I care passionately about climate change. And I have been working to try to move us away from fossil fuels for many years. When I was in the Senate, I introduced legislation to take away the subsidies.
I voted against Dick Cheney's energy bill in 2005. And I could go on and on. When I got to be secretary of state, I was at the original meeting in 2009 with President Obama, where we were trying to convince China and India and others to come on board with accepting some restrictions that would lead to what finally occurred with the Paris agreement.
So when people make these kinds of claims, which now I think I have been debunked; actually The Washington Post said three Pinocchios, The New York Times also analyzed it, and other independent analysts have said that they are misrepresenting my record. I'm just not going to, I feel sorry sometimes for the young people who, you know, believe this. They don't do their own research. And I'm glad that we now can point to reliable, independent analysis to say, "No, it's just not true."