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global1

(25,248 posts)
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 03:24 AM Apr 2016

"You Couldn't Get A Job At McD's, Or A Job Anywhere In The Country, Telling Your Employer That You..

have an upcoming interview with the FBI."

This is a quote from an article I came across tonight re: Hillary's FBI Investigation. This article is chock full of interesting tidbits about Hillary's FBI problems.

Check it out here at this link:
http://www.salon.com/2016/04/15/the_equation_for_a_hillary_defeat_is_adding_up_her_fbi_probe_plus_bernies_huge_gains_in_national_polls_should_wake_up_sanders_skeptics/

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leveymg

(36,418 posts)
1. So, why would anyone vote to nominate or elect her? She's not going to be cleared.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 03:32 AM
Apr 2016

Comey will either recommend indictment or simply find that she violated her signed classified information nondisclosure agreement, which is essentially the same thing. She's unelectable.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
3. Three things at work here: 1. party apparatchiks are all in and have no alternative;
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 03:46 AM
Apr 2016

2. Cult of personality types are attracted to authoritarians; and, 3. Mass denial in the face of obvious peril. Strange? Yes. But we've seen it before.

global1

(25,248 posts)
4. This Is What Scares Me....
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 04:09 AM
Apr 2016

There is just too much at stake here for the GE. SCOTUS appointments, Obamacare, Immigration, etc.

Now think like a Repug strategist or the Repug nominee here.

They are going to use Hillary's problems with the FBI and this investigation and smear her like she's never been smeared before. Even if she is cleared of any wrongdoing in this probe - they will create a scenario where they will say the fix was in. The media - being the vultures that they are - will play right into this whole smear of Hillary and we'll be looking at a Repug president in 2016.

Hillary is damaged goods and if the Dems nominate her - we're all in trouble.

Bernie has actually been nice to Hillary - because he could have brought up the fact that she is subject to an FBI Investigation - as a way of further vetting her - and testing how that would stand up to the voters of this country in the primaries. But he hasn't gone there. But bet your boots - if Hillary is the nominee - the Repugs will go there.

The Dems need to really think long and hard about this. I know that the Party has circled their wagons around Hillary - but they need to think about - not winning the war (WH). Right now they are just focused on the 'battle'.

Bernie is our best chance for taking the WH and taking back the Senate and even making inroads in taking back the House. Polls show that he beats any of the Repugs soundly in the GE.

Why are we playing with fire here? It just doesn't make sense.

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
8. First, everything you mention, which I agree with, pales in comparison
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 10:19 AM
Apr 2016

When you consider climate change. She will not make any aggressive move in that regard, and we literally may have gone past the tipping point prior to a mass extinction event.

Why are we playing with fire? Because some powerful people can make YUUGE sums of money from her candidacy.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
9. If climate change is the source of extinction, it will take generations and the poor will go first.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 12:20 PM
Apr 2016

Some of the elites might actually embrace that proposition. I'm thinking of the 21st Century version of the 1970s Club of Rome types and Eugenics movement funders of the early 20th Century.

Hillary is their kind of candidate.

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
10. The models are showing otherwise
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 12:38 PM
Apr 2016

We are fast approaching a big tipping point and an incredible positive (heat) feedback system.

I cower when I think of the effects on my kids, let alone grandkids.

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
12. I didn't bookmark them
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 02:41 PM
Apr 2016

I'll try to dig them up, mostly related to A: methane release in the arctic and B: Freshwater flows near the poles disrupting the major currents. Both phenomena have been faster than prior models predicted.

 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
5. You can say that again. And yet some people act like this is no problem whatsoever. It is a problem.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 04:13 AM
Apr 2016

However you think it was caused.

And I can see several reasons why Hillary's actions draw so many questions that they should exclude her from the Democratic Party's nomination, no matter how far the "investigation" goes.

Karma13612

(4,552 posts)
15. I still cannot fathom that a candidate running for President of the US
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 05:08 PM
Apr 2016

can simultaneously be under investigation by the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

I can see maybe having a bad habit of not paying parking tickets or even being late on filing income taxes (not hiding money in offshore accounts, just being late), but not under investigation by the FBI.

Boggles the mind how low our standards have fallen that this is all taken "with a grain of salt".

And there is something "there", to be concerned about.



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