Things that make you go "Hmmm!": NY1 has Sanders with 17% lead among NY Hispanic (Dem) voters

[DLnyc]

http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/04/15/are-two-polls-showing-sanders-winning-with-latino-voters-in-new-york-correct/

Two polls released this week from NBC/WSJ/Marist and NY1/Baruch College show Bernie Sanders leading with Latina and Latino voters ahead of next week’s Big Apple showdown. NBC has Sanders with a narrow 51-47% edge among hispanic voters; NY1 has Sanders with a more substantial 55-38% lead. In lockstep with the major media narrative of Clinton versus Sanders to-date, neither NBC or NY1 released those figures in their stories accompanying the polls. NBC first buried the numbers at the bottom of another story about how Sanders does badly with non-white voters, then captured those numbers, which would appear to be similar, in a general non-white voter category in updated poll numbers out Thursday evening. NY1‘s numbers are available in raw form only.

These figures appear to confirm two national polls and a Field Poll of California where Sanders is pulling even or has taken a substantial lead with likely Latinx voters. I discussed those polls in my article last week on Latino millennials in California.

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[CoffeeCat]

1. This is not surprising

Going all the way back to Iowa, Bernie won the majority of Latino counties in the Iowa Caucuses. Many in the Latino community have said that Latino's were instrumental in Bernie's strong "tie" in Iowa. Latino's had record caucus participation, up 30 percent from the 2008 Iowa Caucuses--when 2008 had been a record year.

Bernie also won Latinos in the Nevada caucuses, but there was great effort made to fuzzy those facts.

Doesn't fit with the narrative that Clinton has so desperately tried to build--that Bernie can't win with minority voters.

David Brock issued his proclamation in Iowa, on January 27--before the Iowa caucuses had happened. "Black lives don't matter to Bernie Sanders."

The Clinton camp has tried very hard to make this stick--within the black community and within the Latino community.

[agracie]

2. They are ALSO manipulating the polls. Go here ⬇️

by Phil Creek ( Razorback3100)

It started out as curiosity... about two and a half weeks ago I, and many others, marveled at how Bernie Sanders had been able to whittle Hillary's lead in New York from a 43 point lead down to 7 and a half points. I was following the polling to see how much further he could whittle it down and looked forward to seeing Bernie pull ahead. But then something....odd.... happened. I went a week with no new polling data coming out, which, given the importance of the New York primary, I thought, well, ODD.

Then, on April 12th, a new NATIONAL poll came out showing Bernie 1 point ahead among registered democrats, 11 points ahead among Dem-leaning voters, and 16 points ahead among independents.

"WOW!!!" Was the thought that came to mind.

The same day, I started seeing new polling coming out of New York which, frankly, did not make sense. Polling showing Hillary ahead 53 to 37% ( Which is weird in itself as suddenly there was a much larger percentage of voters that hadn’t yet chosen a candidate when usually the closer you get to an election day, the opposite is more true ). The next poll I saw was from CNN and it was showing 54 - 32 Clinton, which made me scratch my head even more... So I had to start asking myself, "What's going on here? How did Hillary pull 16 to 22 points ahead in 9 days?" The polling tightened upwards for Bernie over the next couple of days but still had Hillary at anywhere from a 13 to a 17 point lead, but still the weirdness and oddity of the sudden reversal in polling data made me question what in the hell was going on.



http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/4...te-of-New-York

[restorefreedom]

3. can't you smell it?

someone's been cooking polls!

[dorkzilla]

4. So I'm taking it hanging out with her bariquas didn't work?