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agracie

(950 posts)
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 04:55 PM Apr 2016

60,000 Fewer Democrats in Brooklyn and No Clear Reason Why

The county of Kings is playing an outsized role in New York State’s presidential primary race — particularly among Democrats. As the birthplace of Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders, Brooklyn figures into nearly every one of his stump speeches. It’s also where former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has based her national campaign headquarters.

Yet, even as the candidates lavish love on Brooklyn, a WNYC analysis of state voter enrollment statistics found that the number of active registered Democrats dropped there by 63,558 voters between November 2015 and April 2016. That translates into a 7 percent drop in registered Democrats in the borough.

No other borough in New York City nor county in the rest of the state saw such a significant decline in active registered Democrats. In fact, only 7 of the state's 62 counties saw a drop in the number of Democrats. Everywhere else saw the numbers increase.

http://www.wnyc.org/story/democratic-voter-rolls-drop-more-60000-brooklyn-presidential-primary/

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60,000 Fewer Democrats in Brooklyn and No Clear Reason Why (Original Post) agracie Apr 2016 OP
Corruption. I hope we get some real election/ voter reforms after this crap! glowing Apr 2016 #1
Lol EdwardBernays Apr 2016 #5
Those grassroots, mobilized people in the network can do glowing Apr 2016 #13
Here's the problem EdwardBernays Apr 2016 #20
So, we just give up and accept "can't"? glowing Apr 2016 #21
No EdwardBernays Apr 2016 #22
Typical hostage exchange. 60k Brooklyn Dems for Brooklynite. leveymg Apr 2016 #27
I wonder if they suddenly made the jump to some other party without their knowledge LiberalArkie Apr 2016 #2
Whoopsie EdwardBernays Apr 2016 #3
If it did happen, I would not want to be them against a lot of pissed off New Yorkers. LiberalArkie Apr 2016 #6
Or on April 33rd... k8conant Apr 2016 #14
Or, somebody took their registrations to the car... dchill Apr 2016 #7
Now that is an Arkansas Sheriffs tactic there. LiberalArkie Apr 2016 #10
Also, I believe, a Nevada tactic. dchill Apr 2016 #12
That certainly is weird. RoccoR5955 Apr 2016 #4
They would never leave NYC as much money as they have. If I won the lottery LiberalArkie Apr 2016 #9
63,558 is a large number of votes to "lose" ... dchill Apr 2016 #11
Perhaps the number of people who are on record as having donated to Bernie? LiberalArkie Apr 2016 #16
Infuriating. I think thousands will be disenfranchised, exactly according to plan. nt thereismore Apr 2016 #8
Now now, party unity. Enthusiast Apr 2016 #18
FBI or someone needs to look into this one for sure...too many missing people's registrations. bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #15
Probably facilitated by the FBI. Enthusiast Apr 2016 #19
I think we know the real reason. Just like in Arizona. Enthusiast Apr 2016 #17
What is very concerning is reports came out saying voter registration in NY is up. Way up. jillan Apr 2016 #23
this fucking smells. nt restorefreedom Apr 2016 #24
Linda Sarsour with Bernie's Campaign lives in Brooklyn, and she often talks about gentrification,... Donkees Apr 2016 #25
7% in 5months? Kittycat Apr 2016 #26
Brooklyn has about 2 1/2 million people. 60,000 people could be 600 apartment buildings... Donkees Apr 2016 #28
Brownsville Public Housing Press Conference | Bernie Sanders Donkees Apr 2016 #31
The stakes are high for urban Americans- For example TTIP could Baobab Apr 2016 #29
Is Katherine Harris working in NY now? in_cog_ni_to Apr 2016 #30
 

glowing

(12,233 posts)
13. Those grassroots, mobilized people in the network can do
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 05:15 PM
Apr 2016

quite a bit of good if they stick together and work on the issues that need immediate attention. Money in politics and making it easier for citizens to participate in the voting process, along with verifiable elections. I really believe that the UN needs to come in and monitor elections. Our elections are easily hacked, AND more importantly, the machines are from private companies with proprietary hardware/ software that cannot be disclosed to the public. We don't know what algorithms are placed into the machine to tell the central tabulator to switch every 3 and 10th vote from one candidate to another. Even in states with the opti-scan and paper ballot back up have yet to be challenged by any candidate to go back to the paper and count it by hand. I seriously believe the Democratic candidate won the Governor's seat in FL. Both times, the votes came within in 0.5% of winner and loser. That's an easily stolen flip for Republicans. Especially, the second time that evil, alien ran, he wasn't popular with Republicans and Charlie Crist was a good Gov that many like across party lines.

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
20. Here's the problem
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 05:57 PM
Apr 2016

As you said, if one side - or both sides - cheat, and there no referee, the one who cheat the most and the best will always win..

America's democracy - like it's justice and Healthcare and Education systems - is busted. Broken. A sham.

 

glowing

(12,233 posts)
21. So, we just give up and accept "can't"?
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 06:36 PM
Apr 2016

Offer no one any hope? Offer no one the ability to remain connected and understand we are in the same boots... We all have to pull the straps up? We give up on the planet? We allow mass extinction to occur, famines, wars.... What's the point of living without hope and without believing that we can make a difference and we can have a voice and we can stand together and do things better than those in power think we should be allowed?

I was pretty defeatism... I didn't think Bernie had a shot as much as I loved his ideas and wanted him on that bully pulpit. The next generation coming out, coming together, participating... It's exciting. And unlike politicians of the past, he's not bought by those already in power.

Now that we've seen someone do this without the wealthy and connected buy a top candidate, I think people will have vastly different expectations going forward.

Demanding money out! Demanding the revolving door shut! Demanding people who know what they are doing in charge at the top agencies! Demanding the ability to vote and have that vote count! And I think we may just get a slew of younger people who will get into politics at the local levels and work on these issues.

I have to have some hope; I have children.

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
22. No
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 06:45 PM
Apr 2016

you don't have to give up at all... no one said that... having a broken car doesn't mean it can't be fixed and you should give up... but sitting in it all day expecting it to not be broken isn't going to work either.

I certain'y don't think, based on past history of people being energised for a bit then completely losing focus, even when their candidate wins, that things are definitely going to change for the better, just because... there's not a lot of Bernies out there and god knows the system is COMPLETELY rigged to benefit the corrupt... in fact the more corrupt the better! And for everyone energised, how many are going to just turn hard hearted and cynical if Bernie loses and they believe - with some justification - that he was basically bulldozed out of the system...? More than a couple.

The problem is DEEP rooted; look at the grass roots on the right - how many "tea partiers" just lied about what their beliefs were to get elected... how many pseudo-Bernies are we about to have that are actually just corrupt corporatists? A lot! God knows it's easier to pretend to have moral and integrity then to - you know - have morals and integrity...

And when those pseudo-Bernies are found to be corrupt, how many more idealists will become cynical... and decide to just vote for the next Hillary?

Again, a lot.

This is why Bernie is so important... if he wins he can prove to all those kids that people like him CAN be successful... if he doesn't... I have no hope that anything much will change for the good...

and for the record I have two kids.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
27. Typical hostage exchange. 60k Brooklyn Dems for Brooklynite.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 09:46 PM
Apr 2016

Plus they let humanitarian supplies and a few bags of concrete and 2X4s in as part of the exchange.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
4. That certainly is weird.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 05:07 PM
Apr 2016

Unless they went to become RepubliCLOWNs and are voting for Drumpf.
Well at any rate, we upstaters are working on getting Bernie in. I believe that he shall win upstate, and NYC, and take the state of NY.
Then Clinton can sell the house in Chappaqua, and move back to Arkansas where she belongs, with her conservative values!

LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
9. They would never leave NYC as much money as they have. If I won the lottery
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 05:11 PM
Apr 2016

I would be out of here and into a tiny 1 BR apartment in New York so fast.

dchill

(38,505 posts)
11. 63,558 is a large number of votes to "lose" ...
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 05:12 PM
Apr 2016

Especially when the other boroughs gained. I smell shenanigans.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
17. I think we know the real reason. Just like in Arizona.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 05:37 PM
Apr 2016



No other borough in New York City nor county in the rest of the state saw such a significant decline in active registered Democrats.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
23. What is very concerning is reports came out saying voter registration in NY is up. Way up.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 07:30 PM
Apr 2016

What is going on?

At least the law suits have started ahead of time.

Donkees

(31,418 posts)
25. Linda Sarsour with Bernie's Campaign lives in Brooklyn, and she often talks about gentrification,...
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 09:31 PM
Apr 2016

the rising rents and people being forced to move. She mentioned not knowing if she can stay either. That may be part of the reason.

Donkees

(31,418 posts)
28. Brooklyn has about 2 1/2 million people. 60,000 people could be 600 apartment buildings...
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 09:56 PM
Apr 2016

could be 30 blocks (?) Gentrification could be part of the demographic shift (?)

Donkees

(31,418 posts)
31. Brownsville Public Housing Press Conference | Bernie Sanders
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:23 AM
Apr 2016



NEW YORK - U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders addressed the affordable housing crisis in New York and across the nation Sunday after he toured the New York City Housing Authority’s Howard Houses in Brooklyn’s Brownsville neighborhood.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
29. The stakes are high for urban Americans- For example TTIP could
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:36 AM
Apr 2016

cause the price of heating (because of LNG export deregulation) hundreds of thousands of postwar buildings to jump up so much that their landlords decide to leave the landlording business. Loss of so many rent controlled apartment wouldnt mean they just had to move down the block, they would have to leave the cities, despite the fact that most dont drive or even own cars.

That one thing could make literally millions of people homeless.


They don't care, the LNG exporters PR campaign "Our Energy Moment" has lots of connections to well connected politicians.

Obama used to be a real estate lawyer who said he wanted to go into real estate speculation. Prices of huge amounts of property in places like Brooklyn would go through the roof if it could be freed of the tenants who live there now.

They are living on borrowed time. This is not a joke. Paradoxically nomatter how this election goes millions of Americans are just living on borrowed time because of jobs going away. Automation will make so many jobs redundant in the next few years. people have no idea. Many people likely will have to move to some other cheaper country.

Trade deals signed 20 years ago may tie Bernie's hands.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
30. Is Katherine Harris working in NY now?
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:39 AM
Apr 2016

Obviously, her election fraud tactics have been implemented and Billary hanging out with the Bush family wasn't for naught.

I'm hoping for GOOD OVER EVIL PREVAILING today.

GO NY!

GO BERNIE

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

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