Isn't there a 194 delegate difference now?

[Rosa Luxemburg]

Bernie should be to get a load of delegates tomorrow. The gap has narrowed. Bernie has gained 24 recently?

[ViseGrip]

1. Yes, it's narrowed to 194 but the MSM just keeps repeating over 200.

[Bernin4U]

2. Google still shows her with +682

Edit: Or +244, if you look further down where the SDs aren't counted.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

3. People need to call the media out then

[paulthompson]

4. I disagree

We need to keep it real and not just make up favorable numbers.

The 194 number comes from a Seth Abramson article from yesterday. But that's based on some disputed things in a few states falling Sanders' way. For instance, Sanders might pick up a couple of delegates in Missouri, but there are conflicting rules at stake, and it won't be resolved until another delegate meeting a couple of months from now.

As far as I know, the real number is 206 right now. Maybe a little better, depending on your opinion about those disputes, but not 194.

That said, Sanders may be able to squeeze out some more delegates in some states, like what happened in Colorado over the weekend, where he picked up two delegates.

And I'd also point out that 206 is much better than the 240 to 250 delegate difference most of the mainstream media is reporting. That's because some states like Washington technically haven't assigned their delegates yet, even though everyone knows what the final numbers in those states will be.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

5. I don't think they are made up?

unless they have changed?

[paulthompson]

6. What I mean is...

The delegate count is messy and some of the numbers are up in the air right now. For instance, Sanders picked up some delegates in Nevada recently. But how many? Some say two, some say six, some say something in between. (Most people say two.) What Seth Abramson has done is taken the most pro-Sanders number in each disputed state and treats that as the firm, factual number. It isn't. A lot of these are still undecided. It could be the every single disputed case falls Sanders' way eventually, but it's unwise to assume that's the case.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

7. no one is assuming

we know that the delegate situation is changing

[paulthompson]

8. Well...

Seth Abramson is assuming, with his Huffington Post article saying the delegate count is 194 right now, and many Sanders supporters are quoting that (like in the OP of this hread).

I just think we need to keep it real. I could say the gap is 180, or 170, but that doesn't make it true.

Frankly, I don't think a gap of 206 or so is as bad as the "experts" say. If Sanders wins California 60 to 40, he'd make up 100 right there.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

9. 206 isn't much of a gap