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wendylaroux

(2,925 posts)
Thu May 5, 2016, 03:24 PM May 2016

Democratic Senator Urges Business Elites to Get More Involved in Politics cut Corp taxes and SS ben.

so this is what so called democrats talk about to the rich and powerful??


Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va., called on an audience of business and political elites earlier this week to respond to populist anger

by lobbying harder for a deficit-reduction package that would reduce corporate tax rates and cut public retirement programs such as Social Security.

Although a dominant populist sentiment is that the system is already rigged in favor of the rich,

Warner suggested that the “business community” needs to get more involved in politics or face unpleasant repercussions.

more here"

https://theintercept.com/2016/05/04/democratic-senator-urges-business-elites-to-get-more-involved-in-politics/

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Democratic Senator Urges Business Elites to Get More Involved in Politics cut Corp taxes and SS ben. (Original Post) wendylaroux May 2016 OP
Too bad we can't get the other side of it with Hillary's speeches to Wall Street... Human101948 May 2016 #1
The transcripts must have went up in smoke at the Great Chappaqua Fire of 2016... silvershadow May 2016 #7
I gotta feeling this is about what was said wendylaroux May 2016 #9
But he has a "D" next to his name, therefore he's always correct and we owe him our vote. arcane1 May 2016 #2
Yup,another Third Way Dino Wellstone ruled May 2016 #3
Yup, and the Clinton supporters complain that Bernie TexasBushwhacker May 2016 #20
If one looks at any Clinton Campaign, Wellstone ruled May 2016 #21
Perhaps the D LiberalElite May 2016 #4
But, but, but he's an actual Democrat AllyCat May 2016 #5
Oh shit I know!! people still talking like Joe McCarthy and other wendylaroux May 2016 #13
Fix the debt! Depaysement May 2016 #6
These days, I can barely tell the difference between republicans and democrats. n/t TIME TO PANIC May 2016 #8
me either,wonder if it will get back to normal,or wendylaroux May 2016 #11
It was pretty bad back in 08', I've been told. TIME TO PANIC May 2016 #14
Another reason the party is almost dead Doctor_J May 2016 #10
He's my senator and he's a fucking asshole. Might as well be a Republican. CharlotteVale May 2016 #12
Cut corporate taxes and Social Security abelenkpe May 2016 #15
Just a symptom of the party realigning into it's New Democratic right wing modern form Dragonfli May 2016 #16
Another Decent Governor Sold Out corbettkroehler May 2016 #17
Warner is speaking to the same sort of "business elites" that give Hillary the big speakers' fees! LongTomH May 2016 #18
This is why we need a political revolution Jack Rabbit May 2016 #19
It'd be fine with me - LiberalElite May 2016 #22
It's time for a big Dem Party breakup. Broward May 2016 #23
 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
7. The transcripts must have went up in smoke at the Great Chappaqua Fire of 2016...
Thu May 5, 2016, 04:14 PM
May 2016

in the barbecue pit at the Clinton compound.

wendylaroux

(2,925 posts)
9. I gotta feeling this is about what was said
Thu May 5, 2016, 04:18 PM
May 2016

by h,in her speechifying meetings.

Bernie has opened sooo many eyes.I almost wish I didn't know.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
2. But he has a "D" next to his name, therefore he's always correct and we owe him our vote.
Thu May 5, 2016, 03:30 PM
May 2016

Or something.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,214 posts)
20. Yup, and the Clinton supporters complain that Bernie
Thu May 5, 2016, 09:46 PM
May 2016

isn't a "real" Democrat. I say his voting record proves he's more of a Democrat than Warner and other DINOs.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
21. If one looks at any Clinton Campaign,
Thu May 5, 2016, 09:54 PM
May 2016

they have employed the best there are in subliminal messaging. And yes we are better off today with Warner being called out for whom he is.

TIME TO PANIC

(1,894 posts)
14. It was pretty bad back in 08', I've been told.
Thu May 5, 2016, 04:38 PM
May 2016

....but I don't think it was like this.

That's if you're asking about DU.

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
15. Cut corporate taxes and Social Security
Thu May 5, 2016, 05:31 PM
May 2016

Because Debt.

Great Republican talking points.

O wait. He's a democrat? Yeah, see. That's the problem with the Democratic Party right freaking there.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
16. Just a symptom of the party realigning into it's New Democratic right wing modern form
Thu May 5, 2016, 05:42 PM
May 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280188788

Those that vote for hawkish Neo-Liberals such as Clinton are not in denial, they are simply not at all like the Democrats of the pre "intellectual leveraged buyout of the Party" by the Koch funded DLC, beginning before, then put actively into practice in 1992.

They are, like the candidates they support, neo-liberals. Some are also even neocons as well, much like Hillary Clinton.

Many of us call these sort of voters limousine liberals, or latte' liberals but they are something else.

I have understood this a long time, most are comfortable financially (not necessarily rich yet many are) but able to always pay their bills, save for retirement, usually live in the 'burbs and own at last two cars (plus a starter car for their teenage child old enough to drive).

They like to consider themselves politically correct, believe in equality just enough to support it verbally and feel "evolved" (while thinking they deserve a badge for doing so) but would never put themselves in harms way for the rights and equality that sound as good to them coming out of their mouths as their own flatulence smells to them coming out of their own asses (they detect a whiff of roses when they breath it in). Words formed of methane are meaningless...

They ARE moderate Republicans (like the ones that no longer exist outside the Democratic party), I remember back when most Republicans were sane and many (certainly not the Goldwater or John Birch types though) believed in civil rights, choice and other equality issues, they were different in that they believed in Republican fiscal values, the old bootstrap philosophy made popular by Ayn Rand (even if the Democratic version would never admit it).

The party is going through a realignment, as parties do over the course of decades, (just as the Republican Party once was the anti-slavery party but have been quite the opposite for a long time now) - The Democratic party is changing into the moderate Republican party of my childhood (except they are far more hawkish than the old Rs used to be). There is no more room for the new Deal, The Great Society, or the working class in this newly realigning party.

The Republicans have also been going through a realignment during the same 35 year period as ours has. One of the reasons one no longer finds Moderate Republicans in the Republican Party, but only in ours, under their new (D) banner. Their realignment has already turned them into the modern equivalent of the John Birch Society wackos of old, but they are not finished yet, just as we are not finished yet.

Once the Realignments of the parties are complete, ours will be fully Republican, with no vestige of economic morality left, even in the "fringe" that was once the heart of the party. The Republicans in their completion will be the Fascist US party (they of course like the brand name they already have, Republican sounds so much like a "Republic" (a form of representative democracy this country was first created to be, and if one believes the bullshit group psychosis it still is), so they will never call themselves Fascists.

corbettkroehler

(1,898 posts)
17. Another Decent Governor Sold Out
Thu May 5, 2016, 09:09 PM
May 2016

Tim Kaine hasn't gone quite so far to the dark side but this still hurts. I followed his time in Richmond with pragmatic admiration.

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
18. Warner is speaking to the same sort of "business elites" that give Hillary the big speakers' fees!
Thu May 5, 2016, 09:21 PM
May 2016

But, that won't influence her policies, of course!!! Of course!!!!!

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
19. This is why we need a political revolution
Thu May 5, 2016, 09:40 PM
May 2016

Senator Warner's sentiments could have been said by a Republican.

The Third Wayers become upset with anyone who suggests that there is no difference between a Democrat and a Republican.
Then they become really upset with any Democrat who tries not to sound too much like a Republican.

The election of 2016 could end up being the swan song for both the major American political parties. Good riddance.

Broward

(1,976 posts)
23. It's time for a big Dem Party breakup.
Fri May 6, 2016, 12:16 AM
May 2016

We'll get nowhere with corporate whores like Warner running things.

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