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Theyre still not telling the real story: Donald Trump, Bernie Sanders, and the analysis you wont hear on cable news
http://www.salon.com/2016/05/07/theyre_still_not_telling_the_real_story_donald_trump_bernie_sanders_and_the_analysis_you_wont_hear_on_cable_news/
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)We're not looking for an Obama third term.
He fought for little of what he ran on.
We're not looking for more of the same bullshit.
pmorlan1
(2,096 posts)Thank you.
Horse-race coverage has reinforced Clintons repeated efforts to blur the differences between their different visions. A shift to a more extended framework would serve to help sharpen public understanding of the profound differences involved, so dont expect to see it any time soon. Within the political establishment today, its not in anyones short-term interest to look out for the public good. Thats what a rigged system is all about. Which is why Sanders campaign could be perfectly justified in writing its own rules. They are waging a battle for the soul of the party and the country. Anyone who thinks it will end in a few weeks or months is missing the big picture. Which is just what the establishment is hoping for still.
elleng
(130,908 posts)Baobab
(4,667 posts)Also, Clintonomics gives big chunks of the economy away to rich people in developing countries. The owners of staffing companies, for example. Not their workers who get paid a fraction of what the Americans occupying those jobs previously made.
These changes will disproportionately hurt the middle class. Also younger people will not have a ladder up. Foreigners will get those jobs.
But skilled wages will fall which is their goal.
elleng
(130,908 posts)'More than ever, we have to ask, why should the conventions or the elections be the framework for all we think? Even if Trumps presidential run ends ruinously in November, Trumpism will remain, along with the GOPs profound vulnerability to the forces Trump has unleashed. Similarly, even if Sanders fails to overtake Clintons delegate lead, his voters clearly represent the future of the Democratic Party, and Stan Greenberg, pollster for both Bill Clinton and Al Gore, seems justified in his warning last October that its a mistake for Democrats to run for Obamas third term. Thats not what the country wants. Its not what the base of the Democratic Party wants. The Democratic Party is waiting for a president who will articulate the scale of the problems we face and challenge them to address it, he said.
So party leaders on both sidesas well as bipartisan media figuresare simply whistling past the graveyard, perhaps with a slightly different tune just now, but still deeply devoted to reporting, analyzing and discussing things in a way that avoids as long as possible the profound changes that are clearly under way, and the equally profound changes that people are hungry for. . .
I appreciate it whenever I see someone speaking TRUTH. (Incidentally I'm pleased to see Stan Greenberg's warning - we attended the same college at the same time, tho didn't meet. Been waiting for something 'important' from him.)
'Meanwhile, on the Democratic sideas Ive noted repeatedly, here, here, here and hereSanders represents a revitalized New Deal-style social democratic vision, characterized by universalist programs like free public education, Medicare and Social Security, in which the fruits of a successful economy are broadly and equitably shared by all. It represents the kind of fundamental shift in logic to a broadly cooperative social order thats exactly what we need to reverse our current trend toward social instability, even crisis.
In contrast, Clinton argues for updating 1980s New Democrat-style improvements within a capitalist meritocratic system, expanding opportunities for the most successful individuals of formerly excluded groups, but leaving the underlying logic of selective individual success in place, with narrowly-tailored means-tested programs purported to serve those left furthest behind. The game of musical chairs can be improved significantly, Clinton argues, if only everyone is allowed to play and compete equally, but Sanders points out that the game is rigged: a shortage of chairs is the whole point of the game.
Horse-race coverage has reinforced Clintons repeated efforts to blur the differences between their different visions. A shift to a more extended framework would serve to help sharpen public understanding of the profound differences involved, so dont expect to see it any time soon. Within the political establishment today, its not in anyones short-term interest to look out for the public good. Thats what a rigged system is all about. Which is why Sanders campaign could be perfectly justified in writing its own rules. They are waging a battle for the soul of the party and the country. Anyone who thinks it will end in a few weeks or months is missing the big picture. Which is just what the establishment is hoping for
still.'
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)surrealAmerican
(11,360 posts)It really does feel like that. We need a "game" that doesn't require that some people lose in order for some to win.
NewImproved Deal
(534 posts)The choice is clear, America...
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hedda_foil
(16,374 posts)The game of musical chairs can be improved significantly, Clinton argues, if only everyone is allowed to play and compete equally, but Sanders points out that the game is rigged: a shortage of chairs is the whole point of the game.
Horse-race coverage has reinforced Clintons repeated efforts to blur the differences between their different visions. A shift to a more extended framework would serve to help sharpen public understanding of the profound differences involved, so dont expect to see it any time soon. Within the political establishment today, its not in anyones short-term interest to look out for the public good. Thats what a rigged system is all about. Which is why Sanders campaign could be perfectly justified in writing its own rules. They are waging a battle for the soul of the party and the country. Anyone who thinks it will end in aofew weeks or months is missing the big picture. Which is just what the establishment is hoping for still
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IA friend and I were talking about the election this morning and I suddenly realized that Bernie is not just campaigning. He's holding the soul of this country for us to reclaim.
elleng
(130,908 posts)and 'us' sure as heck needs to recognize this. Do 'we?'
Hydra
(14,459 posts)"In contrast, Clinton argues for updating 1980s New Democrat-style improvements within a capitalist meritocratic system, expanding opportunities for the most successful individuals of formerly excluded groups,"
I fail to see how New Dem systems are based on merit- they are pay to play, insiders only need apply rebranded Bushco systems.
Baobab
(4,667 posts)be used, the awarding of bids must not be by country of nepotism like now. (big chunks of government down to the municipal level must be privatized, hospitals, schools, IT, public works, construction, energy, green jobs etc.)
So the lowest qualified bidder firm with the most qualifications (education) out of a pool of 50 potential bidding countries, or more, gets the work. Least developed countries firms may get priority.
The price of energy may jump a lot leading to lots of construction as older buildings are replaced by new ones with solar panels.A real goldmine for real estate developers
Education will be privatized and global education firms hope to step in managing and staffing schools and colleges. They may even open new affordable ones. Lots of duplication of services will mean los of new investments which must get paid off.
Firms that can broker staffing in genuinely poor countries like India and Bangladesh hope to get a lot of that work.
So its quite redistributive and potentially a whole new ballgame.
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)And that's when it will be real, when they go to town on the story.