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What did she mean about homeowners paying extra fees... (Original Post) KansDem Jun 2016 OP
Stated income or no document loans came with a higher fees and interest rate since they were floriduck Jun 2016 #1
Thanks for the explanation KansDem Jun 2016 #2
compared to 28 years ago, yes. unblock Jun 2016 #3
Thanks! KansDem Jun 2016 #6
Yes. Check out This American Life's podcast, the Giant Pool of Money for a great mahina Jun 2016 #5
Thanks! KansDem Jun 2016 #7
You bet. mahina Jun 2016 #9
... and a higher down payment. surrealAmerican Jun 2016 #4
Thanks for adding that. LTVs were lower due to the inherent risk and overall performance. floriduck Jun 2016 #8
 

floriduck

(2,262 posts)
1. Stated income or no document loans came with a higher fees and interest rate since they were
Wed Jun 15, 2016, 12:03 PM
Jun 2016

rated as riskier loans.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
2. Thanks for the explanation
Wed Jun 15, 2016, 12:04 PM
Jun 2016

My wife and I bought our current home 28 years ago. I didn't remember being offered this option.

Was it a relatively new concept?

unblock

(52,236 posts)
3. compared to 28 years ago, yes.
Wed Jun 15, 2016, 12:13 PM
Jun 2016

the legitimate problem is that many people have income more than sufficient to pay a mortgage, but it is not in the form of a steady paycheck. consultants, sole proprietorships, etc.

stated documentation loans are a legitimate way to mortgages for such people.

the obvious problem is that people can lie, and because the incentives, the best person to check those numbers only had an incentive to close the deal, not an incentive to prevent a bad deal from closing.

so they started to become known as "liar loans" and in the days of easy credit, some originators actively encouraged applicants who shouldn't qualify for a mortgage to simply declare and adequate income and essentially pay a fee to not have to provide documentation to support that claimed income.

it was one of the contributing causes of the financial collapse, but ultimately its roots were in the banks' eagerness to invest in anything and everything as quickly as they could without doing proper due diligence.

mahina

(17,659 posts)
5. Yes. Check out This American Life's podcast, the Giant Pool of Money for a great
Wed Jun 15, 2016, 12:14 PM
Jun 2016

Explanation of what went down, and how. They go into the process and outcomes in a very interesting way, no nonsense.

http://m.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/355/the-giant-pool-of-money

surrealAmerican

(11,361 posts)
4. ... and a higher down payment.
Wed Jun 15, 2016, 12:14 PM
Jun 2016

My first mortgage was a no-doc. Being self-employed, even with a steady income and good credit rating, left no other options.

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