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Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 05:36 PM Jul 2015

New poll shows Bernie Sanders gaining ground in Florida

http://mic.com/articles/121936/new-poll-shows-bernie-sanders-gaining-ground-in-florida





The most recent poll out of the key swing state of Florida shows Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) rapidly growing his base of support among Democratic voters while Hillary Clinton's numbers remain strong but stagnant.

Sanders was the pick for 21% of registered Democrats in a Gravis Marketing survey in late June. Clinton retained a significant lead, scoring more than 63%. This is in line with her average performance in the state over the past year, where her poll numbers have hovered around the 60% mark. Sanders, meanwhile, has seen a 20-point spike in his statewide average since March.

According to the Huffington Post's Pollster app, which tracks and averages a series of polls, Sanders jumped from 1.5% in March to an average of 20% support in June:

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New poll shows Bernie Sanders gaining ground in Florida (Original Post) Blue_In_AK Jul 2015 OP
I wonder ..... left-of-center2012 Jul 2015 #1
no matter her numbers. They can be high. Everyone knows who she is and most have roguevalley Jul 2015 #10
WTF??? I've never seen non-candidates included in a poll like this. hedda_foil Jul 2015 #29
The truth has a way of resonating Joe Turner Jul 2015 #2
Yes! +++ Babel_17 Jul 2015 #11
Has Bernie even visited FL yet? bunnies Jul 2015 #3
For the primary, but for the general election, Florida has been a red state for some time now, and still_one Jul 2015 #4
Well, Obama won FL twice, John Poet Jul 2015 #5
It is even worse now. Kerry did win it, but again, the demographics are not the same. still_one Jul 2015 #6
Purple -- We still have a Red/Blu split between Senators demwing Jul 2015 #15
I assume you live there, I don't, so hopefully you have a better guage still_one Jul 2015 #17
In 2012. . . Springslips Jul 2015 #18
St Petersburg demwing Jul 2015 #19
My wife did her undergraduate studies at Florida Presbyterian, now Eckerd. I have been there once still_one Jul 2015 #20
lol, lizards demwing Jul 2015 #21
Reptile, but that can be taken both ways also. Sorry about that. I am sure St. Petersberg still_one Jul 2015 #23
A vibrant mature American, full of vigor and with an upbeat message Babel_17 Jul 2015 #12
Ok. We will see still_one Jul 2015 #13
Just had some coffee and enjoying the breeze of a fan Babel_17 Jul 2015 #14
Good, I hope you are right still_one Jul 2015 #16
People keep saying NH is "relatively" liberal. Hello? It's purple. So is Florida. merrily Jul 2015 #7
Whatever ybbor Jul 2015 #8
People are listening to Sanders supporters Babel_17 Jul 2015 #9
Florida tends to vote for the less phony candidate demwing Jul 2015 #22
Woo Hoo !!! - HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Jul 2015 #24
A 20-point bump in 4 months? Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #25
After 40%, Bernie will start eating at Hillary's lead demwing Jul 2015 #27
K & R. Go Florida! appalachiablue Jul 2015 #26
And that's just among Democrats. Wait 'til we start seeing Independent polls. And I don't know how sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #28

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
10. no matter her numbers. They can be high. Everyone knows who she is and most have
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 08:00 PM
Jul 2015

no idea there's another choice. They will change when they do. This is all word of mouth FOR bernie. Its an amazing thing and more significant than it looks.

hedda_foil

(16,375 posts)
29. WTF??? I've never seen non-candidates included in a poll like this.
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 10:52 AM
Jul 2015

Warren isn't running and Biden is still thinking about it. WTF is that about?

 

Joe Turner

(930 posts)
2. The truth has a way of resonating
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 05:51 PM
Jul 2015

In the morass of lies, deceptions, half-truths, spin most politicians engage in, Bernie's voice rings with the truth about the entrenched powers that have caused so much misery in this country...and what we need to do to turn it around. These clarion truths from Bernie Sanders are clearly connecting with the people.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
11. Yes! +++
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 08:01 PM
Jul 2015

Sanders message is the right fit for people. It's like a great piece of jazz, after hearing such you're naturally more sensitive to the false notes of other, saccharine sounding, music.

still_one

(92,219 posts)
4. For the primary, but for the general election, Florida has been a red state for some time now, and
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 05:55 PM
Jul 2015

regardless who the Democratic candidate is, it will be a tough win, from the state that brought you bush and scott, along with their republican legislature.

 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
5. Well, Obama won FL twice,
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 06:07 PM
Jul 2015

Clinton won it (once?),
Gore won it but had it stolen from him.

Maybe Kerry actually won it and had it stolen by pro-Bush electronic voting machines, I don't know.

All close races, but you can't really characterize it as "red" anymore for presidential elections.

Purple, sure. But Democrats have won there more often than Republicans going back to 1992.

still_one

(92,219 posts)
6. It is even worse now. Kerry did win it, but again, the demographics are not the same.
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 06:11 PM
Jul 2015

I disagree with you that Florida is a purple state today.

Iowa could be argued as purple, maybe even Wisconsin, but I consider Florida pretty red now

Here is an unbiased assessment which supports your premise of purple state:


"Voted for Republican president in four of last seven elections; one Republican senator and one Democratic senator; 17 out of 27 House representatives are Republicans; past three governors have been Republicans (one a Republican turned Independent); Republican-controlled Legislature"

Kerry actually won the 2000 election, so I would change that to "republican president in the last 3 out of seven elections"

I consider the state red though

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
15. Purple -- We still have a Red/Blu split between Senators
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 08:32 PM
Jul 2015

And Obama did slightly better in 2012 (51.06%) than he did in 2008 (51.03%).

And if we ran better candidates, we'd have more blue at the state level, but DWS always mucks that up...

Springslips

(533 posts)
18. In 2012. . .
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 08:45 PM
Jul 2015

Florida had Obama winning after the dark red panhandle had 100-percent precincts reported--and a good amount unreported in Dade. It is a purple state. The problem is GOTV on non-presidential elections, when it is not sexy or mega event like. We have the exact same problem in Ohio. This is the challenge going forward.

still_one

(92,219 posts)
20. My wife did her undergraduate studies at Florida Presbyterian, now Eckerd. I have been there once
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 08:56 PM
Jul 2015

I remember the blue water, white sands, and lizards

still_one

(92,219 posts)
23. Reptile, but that can be taken both ways also. Sorry about that. I am sure St. Petersberg
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 10:00 PM
Jul 2015

Has much more to offer

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
12. A vibrant mature American, full of vigor and with an upbeat message
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 08:08 PM
Jul 2015

A vibrant mature American, full of vigor and with an upbeat message, I think Sanders will resonate with young and old. And his New York accent might help him down there with those who hear it with nostalgia.

A lot of voters will totally tune him out but I think many Floridians who are on the fence will be tired of the BS they've been getting for decades from Republicans and just vote for the guy who means what he says.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
14. Just had some coffee and enjoying the breeze of a fan
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 08:28 PM
Jul 2015

It affected my optimism.

Florida will be extremely tough but Sanders will make the fight worth watching.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
9. People are listening to Sanders supporters
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 07:58 PM
Jul 2015

Last edited Wed Jul 8, 2015, 08:31 PM - Edit history (1)

I think that around the time people are routinely applying the Sanders bumper stickers we'll see the polling numbers really take off. Sanders is the authentic mainstream candidate people in our party have been waiting for. He even gets respect from lots of hard boiled Republicans who will contribute their two cents when politics get discussed.

People are making the connection in their minds, they've been told Sanders can't win and so they think "who's against him?". They see who's against him, and they see friends who are for him, and so they think "I want a piece of this".

And they get an equal piece of the campaign. Unlike other candidates where those with the big wallets get a bigger piece of the candidate.

This is part of what makes Sanders a great choice for Democrats, and for everyone. Every individual voter for Sanders knows that he will represent them as much as anyone. The first President in a long time who doesn't have aides that keep lists of the big donors. No reminders from Banks and Wall Street at how much they contributed. Sanders won't owe any industry a seat at the table for their clerks to keep tabs on his administration.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
22. Florida tends to vote for the less phony candidate
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 09:14 PM
Jul 2015

Somehow, that's why we elected Rick Scott. Florida liked Charlie Crist better than Scott, but didn't trust him with the keys...We knew what kind of crook Scott was. If Florida trusts Sanders more than his opponents, he'll win the state Primary and GE.

(Plus, if Sanders does so well with old white people, Florida should be right up his alley)

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
25. A 20-point bump in 4 months?
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 10:50 PM
Jul 2015

That is outstanding. And, as others have said, as soon as word of mouth starts spreading there, as well as eliminating Elizabeth Warren from the field, his numbers should go steadily up. The best Hillary can do is stay where she is.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
27. After 40%, Bernie will start eating at Hillary's lead
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 11:51 PM
Jul 2015

if not sooner.

20% in 4 months?

I predict he'll be at 30-40% in 2 more months, and over 50% in another 3

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
28. And that's just among Democrats. Wait 'til we start seeing Independent polls. And I don't know how
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 07:12 AM
Jul 2015

they can poll non voters but he is going to get a lot of non voters back into the system just to vote for him.

And he hasn't even campaigned in Fl yet.

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