Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumNew poll shows Bernie Sanders gaining ground in Florida
http://mic.com/articles/121936/new-poll-shows-bernie-sanders-gaining-ground-in-florida
The most recent poll out of the key swing state of Florida shows Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) rapidly growing his base of support among Democratic voters while Hillary Clinton's numbers remain strong but stagnant.
Sanders was the pick for 21% of registered Democrats in a Gravis Marketing survey in late June. Clinton retained a significant lead, scoring more than 63%. This is in line with her average performance in the state over the past year, where her poll numbers have hovered around the 60% mark. Sanders, meanwhile, has seen a 20-point spike in his statewide average since March.
According to the Huffington Post's Pollster app, which tracks and averages a series of polls, Sanders jumped from 1.5% in March to an average of 20% support in June:
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left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)I wonder what it'd be if they dropped Biden and Warren from the poll?
From your link:
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)no idea there's another choice. They will change when they do. This is all word of mouth FOR bernie. Its an amazing thing and more significant than it looks.
hedda_foil
(16,375 posts)Warren isn't running and Biden is still thinking about it. WTF is that about?
Joe Turner
(930 posts)In the morass of lies, deceptions, half-truths, spin most politicians engage in, Bernie's voice rings with the truth about the entrenched powers that have caused so much misery in this country...and what we need to do to turn it around. These clarion truths from Bernie Sanders are clearly connecting with the people.
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)Sanders message is the right fit for people. It's like a great piece of jazz, after hearing such you're naturally more sensitive to the false notes of other, saccharine sounding, music.
bunnies
(15,859 posts)Thats a great jump!
still_one
(92,219 posts)regardless who the Democratic candidate is, it will be a tough win, from the state that brought you bush and scott, along with their republican legislature.
John Poet
(2,510 posts)Clinton won it (once?),
Gore won it but had it stolen from him.
Maybe Kerry actually won it and had it stolen by pro-Bush electronic voting machines, I don't know.
All close races, but you can't really characterize it as "red" anymore for presidential elections.
Purple, sure. But Democrats have won there more often than Republicans going back to 1992.
still_one
(92,219 posts)I disagree with you that Florida is a purple state today.
Iowa could be argued as purple, maybe even Wisconsin, but I consider Florida pretty red now
Here is an unbiased assessment which supports your premise of purple state:
"Voted for Republican president in four of last seven elections; one Republican senator and one Democratic senator; 17 out of 27 House representatives are Republicans; past three governors have been Republicans (one a Republican turned Independent); Republican-controlled Legislature"
Kerry actually won the 2000 election, so I would change that to "republican president in the last 3 out of seven elections"
I consider the state red though
demwing
(16,916 posts)And Obama did slightly better in 2012 (51.06%) than he did in 2008 (51.03%).
And if we ran better candidates, we'd have more blue at the state level, but DWS always mucks that up...
still_one
(92,219 posts)Springslips
(533 posts)Florida had Obama winning after the dark red panhandle had 100-percent precincts reported--and a good amount unreported in Dade. It is a purple state. The problem is GOTV on non-presidential elections, when it is not sexy or mega event like. We have the exact same problem in Ohio. This is the challenge going forward.
demwing
(16,916 posts)West side of Tampa Bay. A big blue spot in the red sea of central Florida
still_one
(92,219 posts)I remember the blue water, white sands, and lizards
demwing
(16,916 posts)both the reptile and the human sort
still_one
(92,219 posts)Has much more to offer
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)A vibrant mature American, full of vigor and with an upbeat message, I think Sanders will resonate with young and old. And his New York accent might help him down there with those who hear it with nostalgia.
A lot of voters will totally tune him out but I think many Floridians who are on the fence will be tired of the BS they've been getting for decades from Republicans and just vote for the guy who means what he says.
still_one
(92,219 posts)Babel_17
(5,400 posts)It affected my optimism.
Florida will be extremely tough but Sanders will make the fight worth watching.
still_one
(92,219 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)ybbor
(1,554 posts)Everyone knows Bernie has no chance.
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)Last edited Wed Jul 8, 2015, 08:31 PM - Edit history (1)
I think that around the time people are routinely applying the Sanders bumper stickers we'll see the polling numbers really take off. Sanders is the authentic mainstream candidate people in our party have been waiting for. He even gets respect from lots of hard boiled Republicans who will contribute their two cents when politics get discussed.
People are making the connection in their minds, they've been told Sanders can't win and so they think "who's against him?". They see who's against him, and they see friends who are for him, and so they think "I want a piece of this".
And they get an equal piece of the campaign. Unlike other candidates where those with the big wallets get a bigger piece of the candidate.
This is part of what makes Sanders a great choice for Democrats, and for everyone. Every individual voter for Sanders knows that he will represent them as much as anyone. The first President in a long time who doesn't have aides that keep lists of the big donors. No reminders from Banks and Wall Street at how much they contributed. Sanders won't owe any industry a seat at the table for their clerks to keep tabs on his administration.
demwing
(16,916 posts)Somehow, that's why we elected Rick Scott. Florida liked Charlie Crist better than Scott, but didn't trust him with the keys...We knew what kind of crook Scott was. If Florida trusts Sanders more than his opponents, he'll win the state Primary and GE.
(Plus, if Sanders does so well with old white people, Florida should be right up his alley)
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)That is outstanding. And, as others have said, as soon as word of mouth starts spreading there, as well as eliminating Elizabeth Warren from the field, his numbers should go steadily up. The best Hillary can do is stay where she is.
demwing
(16,916 posts)if not sooner.
20% in 4 months?
I predict he'll be at 30-40% in 2 more months, and over 50% in another 3
appalachiablue
(41,145 posts)Feel the Bern!
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)they can poll non voters but he is going to get a lot of non voters back into the system just to vote for him.
And he hasn't even campaigned in Fl yet.