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madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 05:22 PM Jul 2015

The real in depth reason so many teachers are upset.

It really has nothing to do with who the union endorses. That never really mattered in terms of votes. Money for the candidate,maybe, but not votes. Teachers are independent voters anyway.

There is so much more to it. And even more that doesn't need to be posted right now...but later.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251440203

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The real in depth reason so many teachers are upset. (Original Post) madfloridian Jul 2015 OP
Not just Eli Broad. madfloridian Jul 2015 #1
Solutions; aspirant Jul 2015 #2
From what I'm seeing on Twitter...lots will leave and take dues with them. madfloridian Jul 2015 #3
Do you think the NEA is watching closely aspirant Jul 2015 #4
I hope so. Broad is tied to them also. madfloridian Jul 2015 #5
Democrats inspired Republicans on the charter school issue, not vice versa. merrily Jul 2015 #6
+1 daleanime Jul 2015 #8
Based on your experience, aspirant Jul 2015 #7
Financial oversight, curriculum oversight, and... madfloridian Jul 2015 #10
Teachers Say No Freaking Way to AFT Endorsement of Hillary Clinton eridani Jul 2015 #9

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
1. Not just Eli Broad.
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 08:20 PM
Jul 2015

Randi took 5 million from Gates the last few years to push his agenda. She has stopped now.

aspirant

(3,533 posts)
2. Solutions;
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 12:13 AM
Jul 2015

ignore the union and vote Bernie

massive #'s on a petition and get board resignations

Work inside and GOTV

Splinter off and take their dues with them

OR?

merrily

(45,251 posts)
6. Democrats inspired Republicans on the charter school issue, not vice versa.
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 04:05 AM
Jul 2015

I understand and appreciate unions supporting a Democrat in the general, but the teacher's union's supporting a third-way Democrat in the general seems so self-defeating to me. Trumka is 100% correct on this one.

If I were in the union, I don't know what I'd be doing at this point.

aspirant

(3,533 posts)
7. Based on your experience,
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 06:35 AM
Jul 2015

what are the KEY benefits of Public (people's) education vs privatized, capitalist charter schools?

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
10. Financial oversight, curriculum oversight, and...
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 10:11 PM
Jul 2015

a goal of what's best for children. NOT profit, not money is the bottom line.

Every child who goes to charter school takes thousands from their public school funds, yet more is demanded of the public schools as they are defunded. That money all too often goes to private companies who have not had to account in a timely way.

It's sure fire destruction of public schools if you give their money away.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
9. Teachers Say No Freaking Way to AFT Endorsement of Hillary Clinton
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 09:48 PM
Jul 2015
http://www.commondreams.org/views/2015/07/13/teachers-say-no-freaking-way-aft-endorsement-hillary-clinton

Activist teacher members and others lamented that the AFT endorsement of Clinton was a clear reminder of President Randi Weingarten's autocratic leadership style that treats teachers like passive herd-driven professionals rather than independent thinkers with a voice.

Phil Soreneson tweeted to President Weingarten, “glad I’m NEA, u don’t speak for me, u just made teachers’ look politically inept. Thanks for nothing.”

Naturewoman tweeted to AFT, "guessing you did not poll your members! No to Clinton who promotes Teach for America and charters!" Mr. Stevens echoed "Clinton endorsement is a joke & local union voices are being silenced to retain AFT union funding."

Minnsanity added, "AFT tried to shove NCLB, common core, PARCC and now Hillary on us - we ain't buying." Barmak Nassirian ‏summed it up best in his tweet, "sad day when political expediency trumps legitimate representation of members' real priorities."

Within hours teachers demanded fellow members to contact AFT and demand they rescind the Hillary Clinton endorsement. Teachers began adding their comments to Diane Ravitch’s education blog where she posted AFT’s press release on the Clinton for President endorsement. So far 147 comments have been posted, to date.

Given no one could locate AFT’s poll of members', the Badass Teachers Association (BAT) took matters into their own hands by conducting a poll on Face Book. So far 1240 teachers endorsed Bernie Sanders and only 84 endorsed Clinton. One teacher said "Weingarten has this thing about giving false information via polls... It's scary."
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