Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumSanders rains on Hillary's parade
Hillary Clinton took Capitol Hill by storm on Tuesday with a daylong series of friendly talks with congressional Democrats on the most pressing issues of the day. But if it was Clintons parade, no one told Sen. Bernie Sanders.
The Vermont independent, whos challenging Clinton in the Democratic presidential primary next year, hijacked a set of microphones usually reserved for Senate leaders after leaving a private meeting between the former secretary of State and Senate Democrats in the Capitol Tuesday afternoon.
He then used the impromptu press conference to question Clintons populist bona fides on a range of issues, including trade policy, the Iraq War, regulating big banks and tackling climate change.
Secretary Clinton and I disagree on a number of issues, he said to a mob of reporters.
On trade, Sanders said three decades of deals including the North American Free Trade Agreement signed by former President Clinton have been disastrous for American workers.
Secretary Clinton, I believe, has a different view on that issue, he said.
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/247920-sanders-rains-on-hillarys-parade
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)There are some significant issues on which he differs sharply with Clinton... issues important to working and middle class families (of ALL races).
Keeping good jobs in the US.
Reigning in predatory banking practices.
Restoring public schools.
Strengthening workers rights to organize.
War as a last resort, not a first response.
Eliminating Citizens United, and corporate purchasing of government.
Watching the police, and protecting civil rights.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)Not a mention of Sanders while I was in the room with the TV, just the leader of the black caucus saying that poverty was their number one issue, and some woman whose identification chyron I missed saying that Hillary was getting a lot of Congressional support because of her long history with them. Now, given that Sanders was in the House of Reps from 91-07, and the Senate from 07 on, I would have thought he had a lot more history with most of them than Hillary, but again, no mention of him.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)On the Alex What's Her Name show...they were yapping about HRC being drug to the left.
They said it was President Obama NOT Bernie, that has forced her to the left.
Say what?
FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)context of the Iran nuclear agreement. Have to admit it, Obama has drug everyone to the left on Iran.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)that was what they were talking about.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)..... is practically a Clinton endorsement. Lots of praise that she even met with them. Kinda a low bar if you ask me..... especially this far away from elections. And everything sounds so mamby pamby, vague, and "let's be nice".
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)This campaign is going to be up to us. We have to talk to our friends and neighbors, understand the issues that separate Bernie and Hillary so well, that we can explain to people why Bernie is the better candidate. The list above is a good starting place. As the campaign goes on and the candidates answer questions and fill out the gaps in information about their proposed policies, we will be able to differentiate the views of Hillary v. those of Bernie much better.
Bernie deserves time in the media that equals his rise in the polls. There will be a deserved bitter reaction against the press if they favor Hillary just because she is the corporate candidate. The members of the press need to watch themselves. There are a lot of us Bernie supporters out here, and many of them are just a tad better informed and maybe more articulate in some cases than some of the Hillary supporters.
We have voices. Nobody can beat MannyGoldstein when it comes to getting views and feedback, and his ideas across. And Manny is on Bernie's side.
swilton
(5,069 posts)I thought the entire piece was an ode to Clinton - it was like Sanders' interruption was an accident.
appal_jack
(3,813 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)It expressly told Cenk that, when it took away the show he built after the White House complained to NBC execs that Cenk was being too critical.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)1. Sanders is too liberal to get elected
2. Hillary is more liberal than Sanders
3. Hillary is the only one who can get elected
Clinton is the media's choice, mainly because she schmoozes them and the rest of the billionaires as her day job. It's going to be impossible for Sanders to overcome that. The good news is that they also prefer her to all of the republicans, and having a dino president's better than a Bush. But we as a nation are not going to recover while Jamie dimon and his class are picking the president.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)erronis
(15,257 posts)Are you trying to build a nice self-fulfilling prophecy here? If Bernie succeeds, and impossibilities do happen, will you come back to this group and explain your use of the word "impossible"
I'd rather have a republican than a DINO any day. At least then I'd know I'm getting fucked and don't expect anything less.
I will not vote for a DINO every again, never a republican, but would rather a third party than a DINO.
We need a true progressive!
swilton
(5,069 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)ladjf
(17,320 posts)It's disgusting to think that the likely Democratic nominee will be a DINO. Still, there's the Supreme Court nominee issue. Would a Dino be more likely to appoint a liberal judge?
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)He's out of control. He's a communist, or something.
I've never enjoyed a primary like this.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)candidate for POTUS, while praising Hillary. The msm has been in the throes of an orgasm of slanted journalism since Bernie announced he was exploring a Presidential run.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)The conventions were unpredictable back then. It was exciting.
The Democratic Convention of 1952 woke me up to politics. I was nine. I sat on my father's knee, and he explained politics to e. Never forget it.
hedda_foil
(16,374 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Gregorian
(23,867 posts)I was going nuts when Bernie first announced, and being born in '56, I had no idea that there were others like Bernie. Of course there had to be. But it's not celebrated like it should be.
Do you remember?
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
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Phlem
(6,323 posts)I think we'd all be clapping at Sanders responses to Hillary.
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)PatrickforO
(14,574 posts)Bernie for three reasons:
1. First, they are chicken - most are sorely lacking in political courage. They are afraid of everything; that their big biz donors will abandon them, that they have voted the corporate/neoliberal line once too often, and afraid of the Clintons who are unforgiving to those who 'betray' them. Many have, sadly, become little more than empty suits over the last couple decades.
2. Bernie is admittedly not a Democrat, though he does caucus with the Dems. Hillary is a Dem. So they are uneasily ignoring Bernie and somehow hoping he'll go away.
But he WON'T go away, and he's gonna beat Clinton in this primary.
merrily
(45,251 posts)erronis
(15,257 posts)Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)PatrickforO
(14,574 posts)ladjf
(17,320 posts)I think they might be afraid that a Bernie presidency might cost them some bribe money.(Which it probably would.)
Pharaoh
(8,209 posts)Go get em Bernie!
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)I wonder whether he mentioned Citizens United. That is also an issue on which Bernie is strong and Hillary is hardly believable.
MuseRider
(34,109 posts)and speaks to the differences just after she spends the day doing her thing there and he gets KILLED for being critical and slamming her? I see nothing terribly personal here. He takes the punches and refuses to punch back but it is simply what he is supposed to do during an election and everyone has a cow over it? (possible ethics violation?)
Man oh man he has really jangled some nerves. Rain away Bernie!
raindaddy
(1,370 posts)Hillary isn't going to be able to paint herself as a populist without having to answer to specifics. Bernie's good for the party, good for the voters and maybe not so good for Hillary.
TBF
(32,060 posts)way to go Bernie!