Why is Chris Matthews Comparing Bernie to Mao Tse Tsung? (video)

[merrily]

Because he has his instructions?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12806844 (What the hell is a self-avowed Democratic Socialist anyway?)

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[Warpy]

1. Probably because some suit told him to

I have a strong feeling that's why he's always been all over the political map.

[sarge43]

2. Psst Chris, for starters the Cold War is over

Plus, a fair portion of US voters don't even remember who Mao was and a fair portion of those who do and care wouldn't vote for Sanders anyway. So, you should really try another 8 track because that one just doesn't play anymore.

[MannyGoldstein]

3. Because the comparison is apt?

Other than Bernie's poor record on civil rights, his absurd asceticism, and geography of course, I can see no real difference.

Regards,

TWM

[merrily]

7. You know this is the Bernie Sanders Group, right?

[Wilms]

10. Well, it's TWM.

[merrily]

12. .....

[merrily]

14. FYI, TWM: Bernie Sanders tells us what it means to be a Democratic Socialist.

[octoberlib]

4. Omg. This is so ridiculous it makes me laugh.

[merrily]

6. Laughter is good. ( Matthews, not so much.)

[NowSam]

8. Not watching MSM anymore

I am done with MSM. They are paid for hire publicists for the Oligarchy. They are hand in hand with those who would oppress the people. Bread and circuses. Time to be the media. The people's media - that is what we are. Thanks to DU and Facebook we can actually have honest reporting of what is happening to our once great society.

Bernie or bust.

[merrily]

9. Paid publicists for the oligarchy--very well put. Thanks.

[NowSam]

11. Thank you. Off the cuff just like Bernie. EOM.

[Enthusiast]

35. +1

[GoneFishin]

20. "Bernie or bust". I am going to have to steal that.

[NowSam]

25. By all means

Because he is the only one who is shining the ligt of truth into the heart of the nation.

So yes please say it. Bernie or bust!

[jalan48]

13. Because he's a tool with a really, really, really big mouth.

[merrily]

15. By George, I think you've got it.

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[jalan48]

17. LOL-well said!

[CanonRay]

16. Sometimes Chris Matthews is an idiot, and just doesn't get it.

Occasionally he comes around, but he's got a big blind spot when it comes to Bernie and what is happening.

[FlatBaroque]

18. Since when has DU been talking about Chris?

Try this
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x349210#349312

[merrily]

19. LOL! Thanks.

[GoneFishin]

21. He's a Washington insider suck-up shill.

[merrily]

22. I think the MSNBC crew gets their marching orders from NBC. Cenk's story

of why they took away his show is pretty clear. His show was then rated second highest on a network that was, and still is, desperate for ratings.

They are an "establishment" network and they are going to support the DNC's anointed.

It will be interesting to see them flapping around about top secret emails.

[GoneFishin]

23. Cenk, Keith, Ed. Yep. Every time they get good ratings with a host that tells the truth they dump

them. Good old "liberal" media. What a crock.

[merrily]

24. Ed had good ratings at one point. However, they changed his show around a few times.

Just before he got fired, there was one story after another about how low his ratings were. It was a little odd.

[Enthusiast]

36. Phil Donahue.

[hollysmom]

26. I have noticed an uptick inthe Bernie attacks today, seems like there are mostly only republican

guests on the day shows.
Today one person had on a guy who insisted that Bernie Sanders was just exactly like Donald Trump - did you miss the resemblance.
One way was his hatred of immigrants - because he wanted to stop jobs being sent overseas???? non-sequitor to me. And his mysogyny.

Are they jsut making this stuff up? it is so weird. there were two other attacks on him, I can't remember exactly what they were but they also made no sense, but were not as out there.

[merrily]

27. Yes, he's just like Donald Trump and he's just like Howard Dean and he's just like anyone else

who didn't nominated to run for President.



Anyone on MSNBC say anything about emails? Or was it all hatchet jobs on Bernie?

They must be desperate.

[merrily]

28. IMO, we need to spend more time complaining to MSNBC about this crap.

[Enthusiast]

37. They have an agenda. They don't care if their ratings hit rock bottom.

Mostly they want to saturate the airwaves with right wing lies and subterfuge. Comcast!

[valerief]

29. And Sanders is a Democratic Socialist, so Matthews failed once again. nt

[merrily]

30. Have you watched the video I posted to school Third Way Manny?

I thought Sanders' explanation of Democratic Socialism was wonderfu.

[valerief]

31. Yes, it was. I read that whole interview of Vox when it first came out. Terrific stuff.

I just discovered today (thanks to DU) a new website that has a plethora of info on Bernie.

feelthebern.org.

[merrily]

32. Nice! Thanks for that source.

[passiveporcupine]

38. For any of you who didn't see it

today in the video forum someone posted a link to Robert Reich talking about Socialism for Dummies. It's one of his monthly talks, and it's followed up by a part two from the next month (I posted that video) and they are both excellent. He explains how Feudalism turned into capitalism, and how Marx wanted to come up with a system that gave people equality, because neither feudalism or capitalism did that, and he came up with socialism. The Russia was taken over by a group of socialists who never got around to turning Russia into a socialist country...instead they just kept it as a government controlled state and renamed it communism (they split from socialism). Now everyone thinks that communism and socialism are the same thing, when in fact communism is a state form of capitalism. My explanation is really brief (and there is so much info in those two videos, there is no way to capture it all in a synopsis).

He's really very good and spells it out so well, even though both videos are about two hours long, I really think it's in our best interest for everyone who can to watch them, and then maybe we will be better armed to try to teach people the difference between socialism and communism and state capitalism (like Russia). Someone needs to inform Chris Matthews of this, and even Thom Hartmann made it sound a little confusing by saying Bernie's kind of socialism, as if communism is just another kind of socialism...it isn't. So maybe I'll send those youtube links to Thom too.

Here is the link to the video thread.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1017&pid=285916

[merrily]

39. Uh oh. First, be very clear that Bernie is a Democratic Socialist NOT a socialist.

What is the difference between communism and socialism is a whole other conversation and it has nothing to do with Bernie. That discussion is only going to confuse people and maybe turn them off Bernie.

In the video posted on this thread, notice that the interviewer begins by asking Bernie if Bernie is a socialist and Bernie immediately corrects him by saying "Democratic Socialist."

As to Bernie, the relevant question is "What is the difference between a Democratic Socialist and other Democrats?" This thread contains a lot of info on that subject.

Highlights: Democratic Socialist are a movement, not a party. They work within capitalism and within the Democratic Party. The New Deal and the Great Society were Democratic Socialist programs. Specific examples are Social Security and Medicare.


I don't know what Reich was going on about, but it has nothing to do with Bernie. Study this thread and the links. There is good info on this site. (On the thread I did about Democratic Socialism, one of the founders of the Democratic Socialist movement in the USA posted and approved the OP.)

[restorefreedom]

33. because he has been shilling for hillary since day one

i turned him off when joan "in it for hillary" walsh said bernie was not a serious candidate and he did not challenge her.

[merrily]

41. "not a serious candidate" is one of the buzz term labels which which Hillary surrogates try to stick

him. McCaskill used those same words on Morning Joe, when Halperin pushed her to explain why. Her reply--get this--"He talks about entitlements."

Not your father's Democratic Party indeed.

[restorefreedom]

48. eds podcast

talked about her comments and how she has been trying to walk back the socialist bs. he said she needs to spend more time in Ferguson and less time worrying about national politics. BaBam!

[merrily]

49. ed doesn't have to follow the MSNBC rule book anymore. He should take Tweety to school, too.

[merrily]

46. All of the MSNBC talking heads have. Well, not Schultz, of course.

What time is he on again?

[restorefreedom]

47. haha yeah

if you haven't yet, check out his podcasts at wegoted.com. he said today that he has almost as many people now turning into the podcast is he had on the cable show. So no skin off his nose really. And what's great about it, is that he can be completely unhinged and say whatever the hell he wants because he's not answering to anybody. It is great to hear him really let loose and he is all in for Bernie. In fact he said today that he might be introducing him at some events coming up, I'm guessing maybe when Bernie goes to the Midwest because I think that's where ed is.

[Enthusiast]

34. If anyone had doubts about Tweety before, this puts those doubts to rest.

I had no doubts as I watched him in the 1990s. He is a snake in the grass, an insider operative. He has not a single shred of objectivity. He fucking stinks to high heaven. He is not worthy of one moment of your time.

Boycott MSNBC!

Why watch it when you know every word is filtered through the corporate filter? Of course they will throw you the occasional liberal bone. But that is only a tool to suck you in while they manipulate your mind.

[merrily]

42. I haven't watched him in years. I got to that clip on

youtube via a clip of Thom Hartmann that I was watching.

[Enthusiast]

43. I appreciate you sharing it with us, merrily.

[merrily]

45. My pleasure.

[Herman4747]

40. Tweety is weird. nt

[Enthusiast]

44. And not in a good way. nt