Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumSanders: My Supporters Aren't 'Registered Dems,' Just 'Ordinary People' (Meet the Press)
Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders said on Sunday that the tens of thousands of people who turn out to his rallies aren't "registered Democrats," just "ordinary people" and that's one of his main advantages in the race.
"When I speak to 28,000 people in Portland, Oregon, and 27,000 people in Los Angeles, the vast majority of those people, they're not, quote, unquote, 'registered Democrats.' They are ordinary people who are sick and tired of politics as usual," he said on NBC's "Meet the Press."
Sanders argued that his independent status and broad appeal could be an asset if he wins the Democratic nomination, as he'd turn around "abysmal" Democratic turnout.
"One of the real advantages, I think, of me winning the Democratic primary, is that we can get a lot of young people, a lot of working people involved in the political process, getting them out to vote in a way that establishment politicians can't," he said.
"Democrats are losing because voter turnout is abysmal. I think we can change that."
More here: http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/bernie-sanders-im-talking-about-life-or-death-issues-n410686
Demeter
(85,373 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)interests! The official Democratic Party stopped being a party for the people and became a subsidiary of Wall Street, the MIC, oil companies... Corporations are NOT PEOPLE my friend!
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)party. Which is even less likely now that both parties have lost so many registered voters over the past number of years.
The largest registered voting bloc now is the Independent vote. An even larger demographic, which Bernie and his supporters are hoping to re-engage or engage for the first time are non-voters.
That is why the polls we see most of the time are not reflecting his growing support, and won't especially in open primary states.
Just ordinary people is who he is talking to. And they are listening in larger and larger numbers.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Also, as I keep posting, over half of registered voters in Massachusetts are registered "unenrolled," yet the entire Massachusetts delegation is Democratic and the only Republican Presidents who got Massachusetts electoral votes in recent memory are Eisenhower and Reagan. So, registration alone does not tell the entire story.
Democrats for Bernie 2016!
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)I think the technology/social media and the portability of cell phones have had a tremendous impact, and Bernie has used it masterfully. Candidates can no longer speak out of numerous "side of their mouth".
The political process is having to reinvent itself. I remember when Congressman Foley got caught sexting...he thought that if he deleted it, it was gone. Now, Hillary's emails and server issues are causing her political misery.
merrily
(45,251 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)I would love to have a woman president, but will not vote gender...ever.
Maybe it's almost time to start some speculation about a Sanders running mate before too long. Before Bernie ran, I was impressed by Julian Castro from Texas, now Director of HUD, and could see him with Hillary.
merrily
(45,251 posts)to win the nomination. IMO, that's why he got appointed to HUD, to give him a more national presence. If it's any indication at all, his brother is a member of the Congressional New Democrat Coalition, not the Congressional Progressive Caucus.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)And I agree about the call to DC. But I didn't know the difference between the Coalition or the Caucus.
He'll at least be in any Democratic Cabinet, I'm sure. But don't see him fitting so much with Bernie? I was thinking more ethnic woman...a first Black Woman VP?
But I suspect Julian will end up being the first Hispanic President with Joaquin pretty visible somewhere...they are only 40 and his family has lifelong Left credentials.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Heaven knows, he's doing his part. I wish I were as sure that all his supporters are doing theirs.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)positive thinking wondering who would be his VP. No harm in that.
merrily
(45,251 posts)It would hard to overestimate the obstacles Bernie is up against to win the primary.
And I am not at all sure a bout Castro.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)few brave members of Congress to vote against the Bush/Cheney war criminals' obvious lies, on the War in Iraq and on the Patriot Act eg.
They have collaborated on many issues over the years, and THAT would be my choice for a woman in the WH after Bernie's 8 years are up.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Well, now that we have that out of the way ... LOL ... back to Bernie For the Primary.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Former mayor of Atlanta.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shirley_Franklin
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Those are certainly selling points. Lots of experience. Well educated. A thoughtful person. And looks good.
I like her from what I know about her.
LiberalArkie
(15,715 posts)youth back into it. I was feeling like I was living in Israel where the same people and ideas alternate back and forth. I wanted someone young that would change things like Kennedy did. But the youth and vigor is being brought by someone in their 70's. Who would have thunk?
I am hoping that he does bring in someone as young as possible as VP. Someone who doesn't have the old baggage. I want new ideas. I want someone who believes this nation has a future and rejects the idea that our days of doing good are in the past.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)and take the impact and brunt of the initiation of a new kind of power. Then, yes, a young protege-type running mate. The more I think about it, Castro could work.
But then again, with all the women's rights issues and racial issues so front and center...thank goodness, a black woman would also be appropriate. I just think we'll see a Hispanic President before we see a Black Female President. But just being able to voice thoughts about it gives me a good feeling.
merrily
(45,251 posts)His brother is in the New Democrat Coalition and Obama does not have a record of appointing many liberals.
Robbins
(5,066 posts)on 2008.
the Hillary email server story may not go away.not everyone concerned about it is republican.
pretty much all the GOP has against bernie is he's radical leftie but that's not going to be enough.he appeals to non-dems including even some republican voters out there.
Remember too when bernie says unemployment is much higher that is actully a critism of obama economic record.
merrily
(45,251 posts)don't think she understands their needs. At some point, I think those people may reconsider whether that is someone for whom they wish to vote.
Robbins
(5,066 posts)with her high negatives that people will rush out to vote for her.People may not like Republicans but if there isn't any enthusim for
her hard to believe people will work hard for her.She isn't obama or Bill Clinton.
merrily
(45,251 posts)She only needs them to vote--and even then, who knows?
Robbins
(5,066 posts)will work.that seems to be the strategy.raise a billion dollars and pay people to vote for her.
It's laughable when she says she wants to take money out of politics.
so far she seems unable to buy crowds for her.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Someone else posted the other day that she is taking money out of politics one large donation at a time. Something like that, anyway.
Robbins
(5,066 posts)she will raise all she can.the idea she would take money out of politics is so laughable.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Robbins
(5,066 posts)I am not sure she can buy her way into white house.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)will sponsor an ammendment or whatever to get rid of that Billionaire Citizen's United Against the Power of We, the People.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Can you just imagine the debates?
He's going to eat them, simply by speaking truth and fact.
PatrickforO
(14,574 posts)but THIS is the real story.
cascadiance
(19,537 posts)... here in Portland if they aren't Democrats already to vote for him in the primary here in Oregon, unless those that were attended were coming from the Vancouver, Washington area right over the border, since Washington state has open primaries.
Stevepol
(4,234 posts)is that "voter turnout is abysmal." Another reason is that the vote is counted on electronic voting machines that are tilted one way and the tilt is adjusted in accordance with how important the contest is, how close the results are likely to be, and a number of other factors.
And there are other reasons as well: gerrymandering, voter suppression laws, etc.
I think Bernie will increase the turnout by quite a lot, but we'll see how significant that turns out to be.
SandersDem
(592 posts)but I do have to say, everybody on this planet is simply an "ordinary person". I would have preferred him to phrase that a bit differently, but its kind of a moot point.