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portlander23

(2,078 posts)
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 10:21 PM Sep 2015
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Video: Mrs. Clinton wouldn't have said the dishonest Sanders smear her Super PAC said on her behalf (Original Post) portlander23 Sep 2015 OP
The only reason she says that is because in_cog_ni_to Sep 2015 #1
The most blithely self-unaware campaign I've ever seen. nt MannyGoldstein Sep 2015 #2
To be fair, it is hard to run against Bernie.... virtualobserver Sep 2015 #4
I thought Hillary wouldn't run because of Bernie MannyGoldstein Sep 2015 #5
Are Larry, Moe, and Curley running her campaign? HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #3
I'm afraid it's only going to get worse MissDeeds Sep 2015 #7
True. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #8
Her minions will fling mud... SoapBox Sep 2015 #11
People "evolve," but only to a point. The campaign was unsavory in 2008 and they're doubling down. merrily Sep 2015 #14
"I dont think this is the kind of thing that she would be uttering" dflprincess Sep 2015 #6
and she still won't condemn Brock's email! dorkzilla Sep 2015 #9
Jennifer Granholm.... SoapBox Sep 2015 #10
Of course she wouldn't say it. That's what campaign surrogates are for. merrily Sep 2015 #12
I don't think anyone believes that. djean111 Sep 2015 #13

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
1. The only reason she says that is because
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 10:30 PM
Sep 2015

it didn't fly! No one believed it (except DU Hillary supporters) and the entire internet exploded with the TRUTH to counter it. She's not fooling anyone. That was approved to be leaked. It didn't go well.

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
4. To be fair, it is hard to run against Bernie....
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 10:55 PM
Sep 2015

His decision making process always leads him to support the people over the powerful.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
5. I thought Hillary wouldn't run because of Bernie
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 10:59 PM
Sep 2015

I couldn't imagine how she could debate him without bursting into flames. I was obviously wrong about her not running, and about it taking until the debates for her toburst into flames.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
3. Are Larry, Moe, and Curley running her campaign?
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 10:44 PM
Sep 2015

Biggest trainwreck I've seen. Even the '08 fiasco wasn't this bad.

 

MissDeeds

(7,499 posts)
7. I'm afraid it's only going to get worse
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 11:05 PM
Sep 2015

Her campaign will pull out all the stops this time. No way will she go down to defeat a second time without doing everything and anything to win.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
8. True.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 11:18 PM
Sep 2015

The Sanders smear came right after her appearance on The Ellen Show to introduce the New and Improved Nice Hillary. She'll be slinging more mud from the gutter soon enough.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
11. Her minions will fling mud...
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 12:30 AM
Sep 2015

Other minions will apologize defending her...

And she will remain silent.

It's over, Hill.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
14. People "evolve," but only to a point. The campaign was unsavory in 2008 and they're doubling down.
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 06:18 AM
Sep 2015

"Americans don't like negative campaigning but sometimes.......they reward it." Former President Bill Clinton, speaking in 2015.

"I've never run a negative campaign in my life." Bernie Sanders, who has been winning elections since 1981, despite being an Indie without much money to spend, etc.

Let's hope American voters--the few that there still are--wake the fuck up and realize that the ability and willingness to run a Rovian smear campaign does not necessarily the best elected official make.

dflprincess

(28,079 posts)
6. "I dont think this is the kind of thing that she would be uttering"
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 11:00 PM
Sep 2015

I guess that's true - she's having her surrogates do it for her.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
10. Jennifer Granholm....
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 12:28 AM
Sep 2015

Another crushing disappointment!

I absolutely love the speech she gave for Obama 2012...now this.

Sorry Gov. that you are going in the Entrenched Establishment Trash Bin, like so many others.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
12. Of course she wouldn't say it. That's what campaign surrogates are for.
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 06:00 AM
Sep 2015

Through a loophole in campaign finance laws relating to the internet, the PAC that spread that spread that smear can both (a) accept dark money from undisclosed sources; and (b) coordinate with the Clinton campaign. Verbum sapienti satis est.

I didn't realize Granholm was part of Hillary's campaign. Is that why her name was floated as a replacement for Debbie Republican Schultz? So that, if we succeed in getting rid of DWS, we get another DNC head under Clinton control? One that is senior advisor to the smear Bernie machine? And we're supposed cheer because we assume getting rid of DWS after all these years means real change? http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=7129066

One of many reasons I am grateful for the internet is that I get to read things by good to great writers who don't have to shill for any of the major parties, like those in the msm and even supposedly liberal outlets like rawstory. http://www.rawstory.com/category/panic-in-funland/ (very interesting writer, IMO, but toes the party line).

I'd rather watch Cenk, Schultz and Hartman and read writers like Will Pitt, MannyGoldstein, and yes, even that uber creepy TWM , any day of the week and twice on Sundays than watch or read those who have to, or feel they have to, shill for one party or another.




 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
13. I don't think anyone believes that.
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 06:13 AM
Sep 2015

The most I would believe is that she would not say it personally. So there won't be a youtube. Shit like this is what the big money is for.
And anyone who believes Citizens United is going anywhere, if she were president, is a gullible damned fool.

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