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http://thefloridasqueeze.com/2015/09/26/debbies-debate-disaster-were-letting-trump-win/Debbie's debate disaster: we're letting Trump win
by nashville_brook | Brook Hines - The Florida Squeeze
http://thefloridasqueeze.com/2015/09/26/debbies-debate-disaster-were-letting-trump-win/
Theres a conversation Im having with my husband that goes like this. Hell say, Theres no way Donald Trump will ever get elected. I roll my eyes. He continues: Hes going to destroy the Republican brand. Hes not a threat, and in the end hell help the Democrats. Then, as my youth flashes before me, Ill say, Yeah, but Reagan.
At this point, we look at each other and say, you dont even have to go back that far. George W was elected twice, if you count 2000, which I dont.
The American electorate is quite capable of electing someone like Donald Trump. Weve seen the White House occupied by dumb, mean, loud and dangerous types for most of our lives. There's no magical force is keeping us safe from the know-nothings.
Whats so infuriating about Trump, is that regardless of his chances of winning, hes getting traction with a segment of voters that should be ours. These folks are attracted to Trump because he talks about the tax code and how he'll address wealth inequality.
These voters imagine that a predator CEO will govern on their side. That's a leap of reason the Dems should be able to counter in robust, empowering tones. Imagine if we had matched both their debates to enlarge this narrative and start a national discussion around wages and tax fairness, to push back on attacks on Planned Parenthood, and let scientists compare our positions on climate. We might have reaped the benefits of an American public who could see the Democratic brand shine, while the Republicans make asses of themselves.
Instead, the American public senses we have something to hide.
That's why I was glad this week when the Democratic Progressive Caucus of Florida called for Debbie Wasserman Schultz and the DNC to expand the presidential primary debate schedule. "Chair Wasserman Schultz not only made the decision to limit debate among our candidates, she scheduled the debates during weekends and holidays when television viewership is known to be low," said DPCF President Susan Smith in a statement. "What was she thinking?"
Of course, many people believe they know what Debbie Wasserman Schultz is thinking, which is that the party has its thumb on the scales for Hillary Clinton. She's not a graceful debater. Her style is that of a corporate lawyer whose instinct is to set up the prey, and then go in for the kill. She seeks to delegitimize and disqualify her opponents. In 2008 she suggested that Obama smoked weed, and that he might be a Muslim (you'll have to ask him). How will this approach look on stage in 2016?
Weve already seen some ideas road tested on Sanders, with Clinton surrogates using his ideological roots as a movement progressive and democratic socialist, as well as his Jewish faith as a disqualifications (see the old canard of the dual-loyalty Jew). Diane Rehm of NPR fell for this, saying she had his name "on a list." These are ugly rhetorical strategies that divide the party and make enemies of those who she'll presumably need to win back after the Primaries are over.
Regardless of Wasserman Schultz' motives, though, back-benching the entire Democratic party during the Primaries for any reason is a scorched-earth strategy that hurts everyone.
Limiting debates makes Clinton appear afraid to debate Sanders. It also makes the DNC and party establishment appear unwilling to provide all Democrats an equal stage to be heard with the DNCs favored nominee which, we'll recall, theyre not supposed to have. Rank-and-file Democrats see this lack of equity with their own two eyes, and its hurting the candidate its meant to help.
In the current environment it becomes necessary to avoid the appearance of being an insider. Thats why Hillary gave herself a makeover on Face The Nation last weekend, when she claimed that she was the real outsider in the race.
"...and I'm an outsider, and I'm Rosicrucian, and I only have one leg..."
It's an understandable tactic. Right now the American public wants an outsider so bad theyre willing to take it in the form of a mugging Donald Trump, who Frank Rich astutely points out, casually ripped the mask off the Clinton Foundations wink-wink/nudge-nudge quid pro quo, by claiming his donations obligated Hillary to come to his wedding.
As Secretary of State, First Lady, and the recipient of massive amounts of PAC money, Hillary is without question an apex insider; the top of the pyramid. What sets her and Trump apart with regard to outsider status is that she takes PAC money and he self-funds. Trump is making the case that that cozy relationships among the monied elite amounts to bribery no matter how you slice it, and the American public is nodding, Yeah. We know.
On a deeper level, I think theres another issue driving the DNCs bizarre stinginess with debates in this cycle. In 2008 all the candidates sang the same neoliberal tune. But this field of candidates features a real contender who questions the entire neoliberal political frame. Sanders stakes his political brand on being a movement progressive rather than an establishment neoliberal, and backs it up by shunning PAC money.
Sanders is not just a threat to Clinton, but a threat to the entire current approach of the Democratic Party. He's even questioning what what it means to be governed, and how involved we need to be in order to see the change we demand. 'We have to fight for these things together,' is a standard Bernie stump theme, and he makes a convincing case that a national coalition he develops won't eventually be veal-penned.
In an email sent out yesterday Sanders quoted the Pope, whose own anti-establishment leanings have been the hallmark of his papacy:
If politics must truly be at the service of the human person, it follows that it cannot be a slave to the economy and finance.
This is just the opposite of the kind quid pro quo, establishment neoliberalism from which Clinton draws her power. Many in the Hillary camp are likely contemplating the uphill battle they face trying to sell her DLC, Third Way, New Democrats style of politics in the new environment of the disruptive electorate thats full of pissed off independent voters not beholden to either party.
Meanwhile, theres a chance that if the Democrats get anyone to tune in to their debates, Bernie Sanders could become the anti-Trump. I think this is what keeps Wasserman Schultz awake at night. If she were truly concerned with countering the Republican narrative, shed make sure Democratic candidates had equal, prime time with Republicans rather than competing with weekend sports or holiday family gatherings. But as it stands, the American public will see about twice as much of the Republicans than the Democrats before voting. This is not to the partys advantage.
It's frustrating because the Democrats have a clear opportunity to make hay of a shockingly weak Republican field. But to do so we must present a credible counter-narrative. A return to the NAFTA, dot-com bubble, Glass-Steagall-repealing politics of the 90s will be a hard sell in the present environment. If Clinton does get the nomination, she'll likely need more than a few whacks at it to get her feet under her. So even if we believe that Clinton is our only hope for the general election in 2016, we still need more than a handful of debates on weekends and holidays.
Since 2008 many voters have seen the American Dream completely evaporate. We need real solutions, and real fighters who arent afraid to stand in front of us and compete for our votes at least as hard as the Republicans are competing. To do any less is bad strategy, bad faith, and we have to be mindful of how hubris could very easily hand the general election over the other side.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
appalachiablue
(41,146 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)jalan48
(13,870 posts)Debates are just a formality to give the illusion of choice to the selection process. Do Kings and Queens have to debate anybody? Of course not! Let the coronation begin!
Baitball Blogger
(46,736 posts)in Florida Democrats. Didn't Theresa LePore teach you anything? There is just something about this state that dumbs down everyone-in both parties.
Demeter
(85,373 posts)and this can only work in the Democrats' favor.
The Donald has totally grossed out women. They wouldn't even hold their noses, they'd cross the street. My fear is that the Donald gets "fired" from candidacy, and someone a little less offensive is nominated...there must be one in that pack, surely!
It may be that the scarcity of Democratic Debates triggers a viewing surge (especially if the weather is bad). If that happens, Bernie wins. Period.
Bernie's come this far on word-of-mouth, and there's still another year, time enough to reach any pair of open ears out there. Let the DNC do their worst. We still have the best candidate in decades from either party.
Ichigo Kurosaki
(167 posts)"In the current environment it becomes necessary to avoid the appearance of being an insider. Thats why Hillary gave herself a makeover on Face The Nation last weekend, when she claimed that she was the real outsider in the race."
Just how dumb does she think we are?
She has been the First Lady, a Senator and a SoS, just what does it take to be an "Insider"?
nashville_brook
(20,958 posts)like maybe she should check her outsider privilege
or jeez...maybe that's checking her insider privilege (damn this shit confuses me).
Unknown Beatle
(2,672 posts)
Maybe she didn't count 2000, but bush's presidency was stolen twice. Why do people insist that McMonkey was elected, even once.
nashville_brook
(20,958 posts)every time i think about watching the returns from Ohio, learning about the way ballots were handled and polling places were under-resourced, and how Kerry handled it, i just want to scream.