Bernie Sanders
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Bill Maher Pushes Bernie Sanders to Face Socialist Moniker Head-Onvideo at link
http://www.mediaite.com/online/bill-maher-pushes-bernie-sanders-to-face-socialist-moniker-head-on/
On Friday nights Real Time on HBO, host Bill Maher opened the show by sitting down with Presidential candidate Bernie Sanders and attempted to undemonize the word Socialism. The segment from the bombastic Maher was designed to aid in the Sanders rhetoric in spite of his socialist moniker, which is largely viewed as the biggest impediment to his long shot Presidency bid. Although Maher frequently slams the Democrats as part of his show, he has been known to support candidates from the party, donating one million dollars to then-Senator Barack Obama in 2007.
When you first started coming here, people thought your campaign was a fantasy; now you could be the candidate, continued Maher. There is no doubt that the seasoned voice of Mahers punditry views the Sanders campaign as a legitimate force for the left.
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Maher seemed to all but officially endorse Bernie Sanders in this one appearance; just this week, Mahers pal Seth MacFarlane proudly introduced Sanders in Los Angeles, so the pressure to do so may continue to rise for the progressive Maher. Tonight he told Sanders in no uncertain terms, I want to see you get the nomination. As for Sanders, his rousing talking points about new incomes going to the top percent of Americans and other developed nation that guarantees healthcare as a right to its citizens were both staples of the Real Time appearance.
As has been the case in most of his public appearances where the crowd is filled with adoring superfans (Liberty University notwithstanding), the audience at Real Time energized the Sanders interview. As the segment ended, Maher joked, perhaps with a shade of truth, Ill send you a check.
Bernie sanders was tonights first guest on real time with bill maher. bernie sanders and bill maher discussed socialism and how exactly bernie sanders will pay for the programs he is advocating
Bill Maher Endorses Bernie Sanders
I want to help your campaign. I want to see you get the nomination.
And then ended the segment with you have my support.
http://thebernreport.com/watch-now-bill-maher-endorses-bernie-sanders/
https://twitter.com/RealTimers/status/655206654913351680/photo/1
Robbins
(5,066 posts)he sure had a complete turnaround.
cascadiance
(19,537 posts)... on a promotion at the moment. Take advantage of it if you want to watch or record the whole thing on your DVR. My DVR is set to record it in a few hours now.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)And I found one thing I don't agree with Bernie on a small point of where tax money for college comes from. I would like to see it paid for out of the general fund and not from a special tax on Wall Street.
thesquanderer
(11,996 posts)but the general fund needs more revenue in order to support it. So where does the general fund get that extra revenue from? A wall street transaction tax.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)I am totally for that tax btw, I just want to see it go into the general fund.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)They benefit from an educated work force. It's time they started paying for it.
cascadiance
(19,537 posts)... that helped us keep Wall Street better regulated in earlier times. It was ended then when it was viewed that the SEC was already sufficiently funded and didn't need that revenue then.
Since then, without this tax, speculators have taken advantage of this not being there, and are gaming the system with HUGE volumes of useless trades that don't benefit anyone but gambling speculators.
Putting this tax back in place not only will fund college education, it will serve as a disincentive towards speculative trading, which is one of the reasons that Wall Street is so screwed up now. They would have to pay a lot more for that sort of speculative trading with this tax in place, whereas normal periodic trading for HEALTHY Wall Street transactions will have very little paid out of those sorts of trading.
In short the crooks who have screwed up Wall Street will be made to pay for the education of our future generation, which seems pretty fitting to me. The only thing that would be better is to get a better administration in place with a DOJ who will prosecute such criminals and put them in prison. Maybe we can put in place some laws later that will help correct all of the recent pas history of corrupt lawmaking that these crooks paid to put in place to make what they do not crimes or to have them not be prosecuted until the statue of limitations presumably let them off the hook. Hopefully we can find a decent solution that still is constitutional but makes these crooks pay for their crimes of corrupting the very fundamental fabric of our government, and not get off the hook scott free.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)I agree Wall Street has to pay a lot more into the system than they do. Oh and get the crooks.
appalachiablue
(41,182 posts)think
(11,641 posts)appalachiablue
(41,182 posts)Go Bernie Go!
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leftcoastmountains
(2,968 posts)CentralMass
(15,265 posts)appalachiablue
(41,182 posts)Los Angeles rally two days ago. Seth praised Bernie for stating that climate change is the greatest threat to national security at the Democratic Debate the night before. Capitalism and some democratic socialism can co-exist successfully Seth also said. We already have this and know it well in the US, for many decades.
LA is Feeling the Bern. Bravo to Seth and Bill Maher for their support of Bernie Sanders candidacy.
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)...is the best introduction of a candidate I've ever seen.
MacFarlane had a great angle: even if you don't want the US to have pure socialism, the US has swung so far in terms of income inequality that we need someone who will swing things the other way; when a soup has too much salt you add water.
appalachiablue
(41,182 posts)very effective and funny. LA is Feeling the Bern!
Thespian2
(2,741 posts)Bernie needs to be allowed to make one point clearly...Capitalism is ego-centric, i.e., the individual comes first, there is no second. Democratic Socialism puts the entire society first, second, third, fourth...etc...
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)I feel pretty good he could get the nomination. His name and what he stands for is resonating. Give it some time. This first debate was just the beginning. Remember, 15M viewers Tuesday. How many tonight, especially with HBO free?
Joe Shlabotnik
(5,604 posts)Perseus
(4,341 posts)He is a Democrat, a liberal, he has said it many times...did you mean to say "Although Maher frequently slams the Republicans as part of his show"
Also, "he has been known to support candidates from the party"...again, he IS a Democrat, he has said it many times... ????
Great interview, I was just surprised to read those two comments.
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)At the White House Correspondents Dinner in 2013, Obama joked, "The media landscape is changing so rapidly you cant keep up with it. I remember when BuzzFeed was just something I did in college around 2:00 a.m."
Maher commented: "That pissed me off because, you know, there are actually people in jail. There are something like 750,000 people who get arrested for pot every year. This president wouldnt be president if they had caught him, if that was on his record
Hed still be a community organizer. I just wonder when hes going to get the memo that pot is the new gay marriage.
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/04/bill-maher-asks-when-obama-is-going-to-get-the-memo-that-pot-is-the-new-gay-marriage/#ixzz3onccaRnf
Duckfan
(1,268 posts)I want to see him bring those disgruntled "R's" into the camp. Bernie's right. There are "R's" out there who have lost their job to Chinese workers. There is a commonality with D's and R's on one thing and its outsourcing. I believe there was a post here a couple weeks ago indicating a group called "Republicans For Bernie." So he can build on that group of voters. If he can bring a large number of "R's into the campaign, he wins. I have no doubt they will get behind Bernie's idea's.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Do you think Volvo or Saab are non-profit?
There's such a thing as a Nordic bank too. >>gasp<<
The problem is Americans have heard that "greatest country in the world" line for generations. They've also heard Capitalism = Freedom and anything else is EVIL and every other country in the world is "a shithole".
I swear, it's gotten so bad that romantic women in America don't even dream of going to Paris to see the Eiffel Tower.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Quite a contrast with Bernie's appearance on Ellen's show. It totally makes me so
happy I've lived this long, to see this phenomenon called Bernie Sanders the Socialist,
inch by inch, winning hearts & minds of American voters, to come together and really
take back the nation for We the People.
I'm totally feeling The Bern ALL over again, big-time.
Excellent news . Good to see yet another voice added to Sander's campaign .
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)Bernie seems to really struggle with tailoring his message to audiences who are already on board with his positions. Although he still has a huge number of undecideds and people who aren't familiar with him yet, when he's speaking to a friendly crowd and an interviewer who is already won over, this reliance on repeating the same statistics and talking points doesn't do him a lot of favours I think. Maher had already said he had his support, but you could see him getting a little frustrated that the completely reasonable question he was asking really wasnt being dealt with in a clear way.
I know none of us want him to become the typical polished politician giving pre-rehearsed nothing answers to questions, but he really needs to listen to the questions being asked more closely and actually address them directly. This is a long campaign and I fear he may not be able to maintain these levels of enthusiam unless he broadens his message and resists the urge to answer every question with a statistic.
questionseverything
(9,663 posts)and yes the answer needs to be clearer
example:
yes we are a quasi socialist country now, in fact the things we Americans love most and count on are socialist programs
list programs,medicare, social security, national interstate system, fire departments, ect
there is a place for capitalism that guarantees workers rights and safety protects but some things like healthcare are just too important for capitalism....we need to save the profit portion by cutting out the insurance company middleman and enact cost controls
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)I had a similar reaction during the debate, when -- unlike O'Malley, who seemed to 'capture the moment' focusing not on himself or his candidacy, but on the relatively compassionate & intelligent tenor of the Dem debate compared to GOP -- Bernie simply reiterated a verbatim capsulation of his stump speech he'd already said several times during the debate.
It's a kind of spontaneity thing, but it's also about Bernie perhaps needing more rigorous prep using his brilliant team to flesh out all the nuances and bring new layers of detail into the discussion. I KNOW Bernie has the ability to do this, both personally and organizationally, so it's a bit concerning to me too that I keep getting that feeling.
I'm not going anywhere, I'm totally for Bernie all the way to the WH, in fact I love Bernie so much that I will not hesitate to register my honest questions and concerns too, alongside my strong support pretty much across the board, which is way more than I can say about ANY other candidate since Robt. Kennedy.