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Tonight we will see Hawkish Hillary in all her glory. I hope like hell we see something far (Original Post) Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 OP
He didn't take the bait on Iraq, that was a deeply unpopular vote at the time. onecaliberal Nov 2015 #1
I do hope that LiberalElite Nov 2015 #4
I'm counting on this from him! n/t bvf Nov 2015 #8
I don't see Bernie coming out with an uber-hawkish response. winter is coming Nov 2015 #2
What do the American people want to hear? Demeter Nov 2015 #3
I'm not convinced the American people do want that. winter is coming Nov 2015 #5
I believe they do. leftcoastmountains Nov 2015 #7
Naw. I think basically he only needs to point out this: Fawke Em Nov 2015 #9
Bernie has never been a hawk. Tonight won't be any different. in_cog_ni_to Nov 2015 #6
I wish he would point out how much money her 'charity' has taken from the Saudis n2doc Nov 2015 #10
I'll be waiting for her to... SoapBox Nov 2015 #11
MSNBC leftcoastmountains Nov 2015 #12
We are not obligated to put boots on the ground and that's pretty much winter is coming Nov 2015 #13
I agree! That was Andrea Mitchell earlier. leftcoastmountains Nov 2015 #14

onecaliberal

(32,861 posts)
1. He didn't take the bait on Iraq, that was a deeply unpopular vote at the time.
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 01:58 PM
Nov 2015

We know his position. Relax.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
4. I do hope that
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 02:43 PM
Nov 2015

he connects the dots for viewers regarding her vote for the Iraq war and the spreading M.E. chaos of today.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
2. I don't see Bernie coming out with an uber-hawkish response.
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 02:00 PM
Nov 2015

It would be contrary to what he believes, and I don't think he'd compromise that even if some believe a hawkish answer is politically smart.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
3. What do the American people want to hear?
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 02:31 PM
Nov 2015

You know what they want...










Simple solutions for simple, scared people. Bernie has to come up with something better.

Unfortunately, I can't think of anything---and no one has since at least the birth of Christianity, which is the antagonist to Islam on a good day.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
5. I'm not convinced the American people do want that.
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 02:59 PM
Nov 2015

I think a lot of them are tired of pouring money and lives down a rathole.

leftcoastmountains

(2,968 posts)
7. I believe they do.
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 04:08 PM
Nov 2015

I agree that most people, their answer to anything too complicated is to bomb.
Unfortunately thinking people are far and few. That's why we attacked Iraq. It
caused all this mess! I was soooo mad when we went into Iraq! I couldn't believe
that Bush was willing to kill a million people just because he felt like it!!! Europeans
have every right to be really angry with the US. Look what happened.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
9. Naw. I think basically he only needs to point out this:
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 04:57 PM
Nov 2015
Clinton’s Iraq vote is her original sign in the eyes of the liberal Democrats flocking to Sanders’ candidacy. It’s also a reminder that Clinton is far more hawkish than the current president. Her interventionism didn’t end after 2003: She pushed for U.S. intervention in Libya in 2011 and supported arming Syria’s rebels years before the administration reluctantly signed on.

More recently, she’s supported establishing a no-fly zone in Syria in contrast to Obama. I’ve been wondering if and when Clinton would take the opportunity to draw out her differences with Obama on Syria, something moderator Anderson Cooper was clearly trying to encourage in Tuesday night’s debate. But Clinton glossed those differences in a confusing answer that made it sound as if the president agrees with her on working to “provide safe zones” in Syria.


http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/10/13/hillary_clinton_s_iraq_war_vote_comes_back_to_bite_her_yet_again_in_primary.html

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
6. Bernie has never been a hawk. Tonight won't be any different.
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 03:41 PM
Nov 2015

He hasn't failed me yet!

GO BERNIE! Make us proud! I know you will!

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
10. I wish he would point out how much money her 'charity' has taken from the Saudis
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 05:38 PM
Nov 2015

And other Gulf State supporters of IS. But he won't, because it would be seen as a 'low blow'.

Inevitable means more war, more superficial 'remedies' that never get to the root of the problem, more of the same.

I don't have any hope that enough people will have had enough of this.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
11. I'll be waiting for her to...
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 05:59 PM
Nov 2015

"Evolve" and/or Flippity-Floppity on her Iraq vote (I can hardly wait to see if she tries to avoid it or brag it up as something great)...and to see her go from the Moderate to the Progressive to...a Right of Center Something or Other...anticipating more morphing.

And Bernie will stand steady.

leftcoastmountains

(2,968 posts)
12. MSNBC
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 06:20 PM
Nov 2015

Just flipped it on and Chuck Todd says that France is saying this is an act of war.
So now they are saying are we obligated to put boots on ground. No kidding. The war
machine is excited and cranking up. I need to put money into war stocks.

leftcoastmountains

(2,968 posts)
14. I agree! That was Andrea Mitchell earlier.
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 07:11 PM
Nov 2015

I got mad and turned it off. Then they had some Republican Representative from Indiana saying the
reason this happened was we have a power vacuum. I took that to mean she was blaming this attack
on Obama! How I hate the Repubs! What about 9/11 what was happening there? She started to say something
about coming together and I started screaming at the computer calling it names. I assumed she is talking war.
I mean what else do these jerks think? Blame Paris on Obama? Wow I didn't see that coming although I should
have!!!!! Their hypocrisy know no bounds! (I keep going to the stream and then switching it off) I mean the whole
thing is like watching a train wreck!

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