Reuters/Ipsos poll

[Robbins]

http://www.ipsos-na.com/download/pr.aspx?id=15085

Intresting derails

Obama-approve 43% Disapprove-50%

GOP primarys-

Trump-25%
Carson-13%
Rubio-7%
Cruz-6%
Bush-5%

Down to just Trump,carson,and rubio

Trump-32% Carson-25% Rubio-14%

Democratic primary-

Just dems-Clinton 51% Bernie 35% O'Malley 3%

Just Independents-Clinton 26% Bernie 22% O'Malley-9%

You add dems and Independents together-

Clinton 37% Bernie 28% O'Malley 4%

Even if you only count dems her lead is under 20 point to 16%.Her lead at this point among dems in 2007 was higher.

If independents vote in Democratic primary it's bad for her and good for bernie.she only has 4 point lead here.

It would be nightmare for clinton if people took notice and realized if you looked at this poll and added dems and indys together
and her lead drops to only 9%

in both republican and dem primarys many say they wouldn't vote

GOP primary-29%

GOP primary down to just trump,Carson,and rubio-30%

Dem primary-31%

Dems who say they wouldn't vote in dem primarys-10%
Indys who say they wouldn't vote in dem primarys-42%

[Cheese Sandwich]

1. The popular support is still a lot closer than some people want to make out

Huffington Post (Average of several polls)

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-national-democratic-primary


Real Clear Politics (average of several polls)

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_democratic_presidential_nomination-3824.html

But we're definitely suffering on endorsements.

[RichVRichV]

2. Don't know I agree with that.

But we're definitely suffering on endorsements.

An endorsement is only important if it can influence us. The most powerful endorsements we receive are form those we know and trust, usually our family and friends. And in that regard we're doing quite well. It's what grass roots is all about. We just have to keep selling Bernie to everyone we know (and get some of them to do the same).


That being said I'd still like to see Bernie get more union endorsements. I personally don't care who other politicians endorse. I don't trust most of them anyways.

[winter is coming]

8. +1. I don't think endorsements have much influence at the Presidential level, where the campaign

season is long and you have time to learn about the candidates. I'd say they're more influential in down-ballot races, where the time frame is shorter and it may be harder to dig up candidate info.

[swilton]

3. The polls showing Hillary with double digit leads and cited by some

here are just inconsistent with what I'm seeing in social media and from talking to people. They also can't be reconciled with the turn-outs at Sanders' events. The MSM and 'establishment insiders' have poor track records for supporting the establishment and getting it wrong. Anecdotally there are stories from abroad of outside the establishment candidates being missed by traditional polling mechanisms.

[Robbins]

5. well

I have said i don't see any evidance besides polls anyone besides establishment is really excited for clinton compared to bernie.
Small donors,social media,events all show excitement for bernie.This poll also expose how they are coming up with clinton huge leads.only poll dems and not independents and also underpoll under 45 year olds.

[swilton]

9. Totally agree and thanks for your words

I know that publicizing polling data is mutually exclusive from covering a political event, but really, who can trust the establishment media.

[winter is coming]

4. This is pre-Paris. It will interesting to see the next round of figures. n/t

[Robbins]

6. I don't think recent events are going to help her that much

her pefromance at second debate was panned.

[winter is coming]

7. That's why I'm curious to see the next batch of numbers. n/t