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IrishEyes

(3,275 posts)
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 11:34 AM Mar 2019

One good thing about having so many great candidates.

It makes it hard for Trump and his miserable supporters to concentrate their attacks. In the 2016 election, Trump and the trumpettes could focus all of their energy on bashing Clinton. There was some bashing of Sanders during the primaries but most of the election he bashed Clinton. To his fans, Clinton was the devil.

We have more than a dozen candidates officially running with more that will announce soon if they will run or not. All of our candidates and all the democrats in this country are united and focused on defeating Trump and his republican minions. The democratic presidential candidates are all decent intelligent people with good ideas and plans.

I think Trump will become overwhelmed by all the grownups talking about the issues. He will try to attach everyone but will get confused. He needs one clear enemy to rally his fans.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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One good thing about having so many great candidates. (Original Post) IrishEyes Mar 2019 OP
Excellent Point JaneQPublic Mar 2019 #1
And no attack will work as well as the attacks on Clinton. Garrett78 Mar 2019 #2
Actually, studies showed they had little effect on Hortensis Mar 2019 #3
That is true. IrishEyes Mar 2019 #4
 

JaneQPublic

(7,113 posts)
1. Excellent Point
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 11:38 AM
Mar 2019

Try as he might, Trump hasn't even come up with snide nicknames for them all yet.

I'm also hoping he gets one or more primary challengers. That will keep him occupied while the Dems work through their primary process.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
2. And no attack will work as well as the attacks on Clinton.
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 11:40 AM
Mar 2019

People had been conditioned to hate Hillary for a quarter of a century.

2020 is drastically different from 2016 in so many ways.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
3. Actually, studies showed they had little effect on
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 11:59 AM
Mar 2019
most of the electorate's vote, though her overall approval ratings, very high as a senator and secretary of state, dropped while under extreme, existential-level attacks in 2015-2016. That's because, loathe or respect her, everyone felt they knew her, opinions set, before she ever ran.

The attacks did affect a small but (as it turned out) critical percentage on the left who were naturally resentful and distrustful of mainstream Democrats and vulnerable to agitprop and excuses not to vote Democrat. They made up nearly a quarter of Sanders' primary support, and in the general roughly half voted for Trump and the other half third-party.

The biggest single negative attributed to Hillary herself was her gender, a "culture wars" rejection badly exacerbated by her strong support for and by minorities. White populist types reacted very badly to just too much equality and too much social change too fast. As did, of course, many of our non-populist conservative Democrats and left-leaning indies of any color. As we know now, a good number of those angrily voted Republican, "standing athwart history yelling stop," while others refused to vote.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

IrishEyes

(3,275 posts)
4. That is true.
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 12:00 PM
Mar 2019

Republicans have been attaching her since she became first lady in 1992. Republicans grew out being taught that Clinton was an evil. I was pretty young but I remember how much she was attached as first lady. I think that a lot of it was misogynistic.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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