70% of Dem voters in IA, NH and SC say Anita Hill issue has no effect on their support of Biden

[highplainsdem]

New Firehouse Strategies poll of those early primary states. The results showing Biden well ahead of everyone else have been posted in other topics, but I want to focus on this part of the results:

http://firehousestrategies.com/may-2019-survey/

When asked if Biden’s treatment of Anita Hill during the Clarence Thomas sexual harassment scandal makes them more likely, less likely, or does not affect their likelihood to support Biden, at least 70% of voters across all three states say it does not affect their views of him.

[left-of-center2012]

1. He apologized

Let's move on.

[democratisphere]

2. Wisdom comes with age.

Who of US wouldn't have done or said some things differently if we had the opportunity to do them over again?

Movin' on.

[FailureToCommunicate]

3. It's true that Republicans at those hearings where far worse than Biden, but some

people actually LEARN from their mistakes.

[Baclava]

4. "A large majority of Democratic voters...prefer electability to ideological rigor"

Hooray!

Purity control takes over only on DU it seems, lol

[WeekiWater]

5. Most of those who it would have an effect on...

Have an agenda other than their concerns about Anita Hill or the topic.

[highplainsdem]

6. Yep.

[LongtimeAZDem]

8. +1

[ucrdem]

7. dig a little deeper folks

we're running out of scandal

[Skya Rhen]

9. I fear that they might be desperate enough to totally fabricate one - the traditional "go-to" one.

If this ever happens, I feel that he has so much goodwill (due to his proven, consistent, glaring decency) that no rational person will fall for it and it will completely backfire. So, I feel that he is in a very secure place simply because we know Joe...

[BannonsLiver]

10. To everyone who tried to resurrect 1991

Told ya so!

[rogue emissary]

11. This is America

So not surprised a lot of white people don't care how a white man treated a black woman. Also, you can like, even vote for Biden and still consider how he mishandled the Thomas hearings. For them to be unconcerned about Biden failure is a perfect example of white privilege.

[NYMinute]

13. Or maybe ....

people weighed all the good that Biden did against his shortcomings and did an astute analysis?

[rogue emissary]

15. If they did it would have affected their opinion.

Affect their opinion doesn't automatically translate to not voting or even loving Biden. The thread responders happy that 70% of the respondents didn't care at all proves my point.

[Skya Rhen]

16. If the majority of black people don't view it as an issue, it is fair to expect the same from white

people. And trust me, most black people are not losing sleep over this - I am one of them...

[rogue emissary]

18. We don't have any evidence of that conclusion.

Supporting Biden this early in the polls doesn't mean black people aren't affected or care about Biden's failure. Wanting to make sure we don't get another four years of Donny is a life and death decision for us. As a voting group, we have been way more pragmatic about who we support. See the '08 election where it took Obama winning Iowa to get the majority of older African American to back him over Clinton.

[LongtimeAZDem]

23. Unless you have racial demographics of the poll, you have no support for your premise either

[rogue emissary]

25. Your right I don't have that information.

Especial since SC is a diverse state. This poll is at least just as flawed. Looked at the methodology which didn't take into account the racial make up of the Democratic primary voters unless their modeling included racial makeup of our electorate.

Methodology: Between 04/30-05/02, we surveyed 1,695 likely primary voters in Iowa (N = 576), New Hampshire (N = 551), and South Carolina (N = 568) via live landline and cell, and text. Likely voters were defined as registered voters having voted in the 2016 or 2018 Democratic primaries, plus the 15% of additional individuals most likely to turnout based on in-house turnout modeling. Margin of error varies by question and segment but is generally ± 4.1 in IA, ± 4.0 in NH, and ± 4.5 in SC for toplines. The sample was weighted by age, gender, and party based on our likely voter universe. Results were then re-balanced based on these cohorts.

[LongtimeAZDem]

26. So, since you don't have that information, your comment,

"So not surprised a lot of white people don't care how a white man treated a black woman", is unsupported, and inflammatory.

[rogue emissary]

30. Two of the states used are overwhelming two of the whitest states in the country.

The likely hood that they happen to get a diverse sampling of voters is unlikely. Special since they only surveyed about 500 plus respondents from each of the three states. My statement most certainly inaccurate, since it's a flawed poll with low sampling.

[LongtimeAZDem]

32. You have absolutely no idea what percentage were white; your assumption was prejudicial,

to say the least.

If you want to see casual racial stereotyping, look in the mirror.

[rogue emissary]

33. So are you happy about these poll results?

Anyone that says they don't have or had casual racial stereotyping is lying. I don't mind you calling me out about it and hope to overcome it. At least I'll acknowledge it and work to improve my views.

[LongtimeAZDem]

34. Happy? It's a C+ rated poll, so it doesn't mean much, but if it indicates we're closer to

kicking Trump out of the White House, I'll take it as a good sign.

[Cha]

31. Exactly.. Thank You, LAZD

[Cha]

20. Voters in South Carolina

were asked, too.. so that's not all "white people".

Your broad brush insult at White Democratic voters isn't fair. They could very much "care", and have moved on to what's happening in 2019.

[rogue emissary]

21. If I answered this question, I would damn well say less likely to support him.

Which doesn't mean I wouldn't be happy to vote for Biden. They selected the response that indicated it does not affect them at all.

Seriously, he mishandled the situation, and he admits at least that much. To say a past failure of a candidate doesn't affect their support says to me they don't care.

I hope all of our candidates get such strong support no matter their bad decisions or mistakes. I suspect they won't, but I've been wrong before.

[LongtimeAZDem]

22. +1

[JI7]

24. except he has a lot of black supporters including black women

I think most of them blame clarence Thomas and the Republicans .

[rogue emissary]

27. Again someone can support Biden and still be effect by his handling of this situation.

This poll points to a lot of Democratic voters openly stating it doesn't affect their support. I could happily vote for Biden and have my support of him be negatively affected.

Every one of the candidates running has something that makes me less likely to vote for them. Doesn't mean at least five of them I will vote, donate money and volunteer on their campaigns.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

28. White privilege takes precedence in our society... it's sad, but true.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[NYMinute]

12. All of those "Biden Killer" torpedoes

came back and exploded at the origin.

[dlk]

14. This is another Iteration of the Endemic Misogyny that Clinton Faced in Her Campaign

Make no mistake, it wasn't just because Hillary wasn't "likable" enough. This is why women in America can't get equal civil rights or even equal pay, and remain second class citizens.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

29. Truth!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[titaniumsalute]

17. Whether we like it or not...

This is ancient history in the way the news cycles run today and the American psyche.

[Cha]

19. Good to realize.. thanks

highplains

[emmaverybo]

35. Of all the players in the Hill hearings, BIDEN mistreated her!?

This has become a meme with a life of its own. I saw the hearings. Dems were pretty cowed facing Clarence Thomas who would be only the second African-American to become an SC justice. Once he called the proceedings a high tech lynching, the real chill on getting aggressive with him set in.
Republicans Specter, Heflin, Simpson, Grassley were unnecessarily rough and flat out ugly. Dems pulled their punches. Kennedy said very little. Biden at least got in some jabs.
And outside the hearings, Hill was smeared.
Not by Biden.
Biden was not her inquisitor from hell. See Heflin for that (YouTube)
In the end, BIden voted against Thomas. This case was never Biden vs, Hill, but for its deconstruction.
The shame is that Thomas, Grassley, horrible Heflin et al have never been held to account. Some are alive. Not too late to apologize.
We really need to vet people for the highest offices at least as thoroughly as FBI, Federal Marshall candidates, potential police officers. Polygraph.Real background investigation. Psychiatric testing and interview. And alleged victims should not have to face the accused or a bunch of senators in open, aired hearings. Let any non-criminal(if the complaint can not be charged) sex abuse, assault, harassment allegations be heard by those trained in sex offenses. They can be reviewed as a part of the character report, and without the “trial.”
Biden is right about the failure of the process. Other than that, he has apologized for more than his part should have warranted.

[Cha]

36. K!