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JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
Thu May 9, 2019, 08:16 PM May 2019

Anita Hill: If Biden Had Done His Job #MeToo Could've Started Decades Ago

Professor Anita Hill took to the opinion pages of The New York Times on Thursday to take former Vice President Joe Biden to task for his handling of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas’s confirmation hearings. In an op-ed titled, “Let’s Talk About How to End Sexual Violence,” Hill, who had accused Thomas of sexual misconduct in the early 1990s, suggested that the #MeToo era may not have taken decades to materialize if Biden and the committee he presided over had “understood the seriousness of sexual harassment.” “If the government had shown that it would treat survivors with dignity and listen to women, it could have had a ripple effect,” she wrote. Hill’s concerns with Biden have taken on new relevance after he formally announced his candidacy for the Democratic nomination in 2020.

Biden reached out to Hill prior to launching his bid and recounted excerpts from their conversation on a live television appearance on The View, where he stopped short of directly apologizing for his personal behavior. Hill told the Times she was unmoved by his gesture. “I cannot be satisfied by simply saying, ‘I’m sorry for what happened to you,’” she said. “I will be satisfied when I know there is real change and real accountability and real purpose.”

Read it at New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/09/opinion/anita-hill-sexual-violence.html

https://www.thedailybeast.com/anita-hill-if-biden-had-done-his-job-metoo-couldve-started-decades-ago

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Anita Hill: If Biden Had Done His Job #MeToo Could've Started Decades Ago (Original Post) JonLP24 May 2019 OP
Hashtag movements weren't heard of back in the 90s MattP May 2019 #1
women's rights, civil rights, gay rights-no internet delisen May 2019 #44
This just isn't going away. I feel her pain. mobeau69 May 2019 #2
I don't. More like she blames Joe for Republicans...vindictive, Demsrule86 May 2019 #52
Wrong there KSNY May 2019 #69
Yes it is. Demsrule86 May 2019 #71
It's vindictive. Not least because of the timing but also the spin: ucrdem May 2019 #76
Read the article. ...and, by the way, name-calling (i.e. "vindictive") is a crude way to respond KSNY May 2019 #77
The article misrepresents the facts. Biden did not drop the ball; ucrdem May 2019 #80
Vindictive isn't name calling. WeekiWater May 2019 #92
This is getting really old... Grendam May 2019 #96
Another thing, like Flores most recently she considers sexual harrassment... Demsrule86 May 2019 #94
I don't think she's being vindictive on purpose. I think Biden ecstatic May 2019 #98
Yes, I'm with you & with Anita! And, hopefully, with Joe if he comes around to her way of thinkin. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #79
---this--- at140 May 2019 #85
Like the Violence Against Women Act? WeekiWater May 2019 #91
There was much more sensitivity in the workplace after those hearings... brush May 2019 #103
Message received left-of-center2012 May 2019 #3
Anita, we got it the first and the second and the third time. Funtatlaguy May 2019 #4
As many times as she wants. nt USALiberal May 2019 #22
+100 EveHammond13 May 2019 #88
I'm getting a bit suspicious of this. Where was she when he woodsprite May 2019 #5
There's a big difference in those two offices. mobeau69 May 2019 #46
But where was she when he ran for president? ALBliberal May 2019 #68
Fair point. mobeau69 May 2019 #70
Biden wasn't a front-runner then. John Fante May 2019 #84
If we have learned nothing over the past couple of years loyalsister May 2019 #86
One thing I can't understand... UncleTomsEvilBrother May 2019 #6
Yes, this is a good point. Impeach Thomas, then Kavanaugh (also Barr and Trump) KSNY May 2019 #78
Dismissing the Human Rights of Women isn't going to help a Dem candidate delisen May 2019 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author A-Schwarzenegger May 2019 #55
Yes but what does that have to do with Biden? ucrdem May 2019 #60
She is alienating me. madaboutharry May 2019 #8
I expect all candidates for president to take responsibility for their actions. delisen May 2019 #32
Exactly...Let's put the blame where it belongs. whathehell May 2019 #36
What's her beef with Biden? Didn't Thomas and the Republican senators treat her worse? Rstrstx May 2019 #9
We don't settle for the lesser of the worst. We expect something of candidates delisen May 2019 #14
I suggest you use a search engine if you want to to read about delisen May 2019 #37
If you're tearing down Biden, you're lifting up Trump. Hopefully oasis May 2019 #10
I think Anita Hill woke up to reality a long time ago nt delisen May 2019 #16
"A long time ago"? It would be most helpful if she woke up oasis May 2019 #23
Condescension does not help a candidate's case. delisen May 2019 #50
For the record, I was 100% behind Anita Hill during the oasis May 2019 #59
Asking Anita Hill to wake up Cha May 2019 #63
I'm not sure she cares about that. BannonsLiver May 2019 #33
At this point, you're not helping, Anita. nt SunSeeker May 2019 #11
That is an extremely poor way to go after him. WeekiWater May 2019 #12
I don't think Anita Hill is unaware of anything re Human Rights of Women delisen May 2019 #26
I stand behind every word I wrote. WeekiWater May 2019 #31
Hear! Hear! burrowowl May 2019 #39
Thank You! Yes, Anita Hill seems totally unaware Cha May 2019 #73
We keep hearing "We don't need another old white man as our candidate". left-of-center2012 May 2019 #13
she could endorse and help some other candidate JI7 May 2019 #18
She may very well be planning to. Might have already promised one of Biden's highplainsdem May 2019 #20
Thing is that's not Anita's call. BannonsLiver May 2019 #104
Not a surprise. Don't agree, but not a surprise. George II May 2019 #15
I don't think Hill is a Democrat. ucrdem May 2019 #17
I've often wondered this myself BannonsLiver May 2019 #34
It would explain a lot. nt ucrdem May 2019 #57
Very disappointing criticism. Also NOT TRUE. As MattP pointed out in the first reply here, highplainsdem May 2019 #19
She should be taking a bow for the workplace rules and enforcement... Kahuna7 May 2019 #97
Does she write that if she had kept contemporaneous notes thing would have been different? 4139 May 2019 #21
not. sorta dumping the weight of the world on biden and blaming him for all history nt msongs May 2019 #24
#MeToo in the early '90s? crazytown May 2019 #25
Actually we had mass movements before the internet. delisen May 2019 #43
Yes. And each one sparked by an incident on TV crazytown May 2019 #48
There was no tv when women fought for the right to vote. delisen May 2019 #58
doublethink crazytown May 2019 #66
This message was self-deleted by its author susanna May 2019 #90
You made their point very well. NT WeekiWater May 2019 #93
This actually isn't the worst attack I've heard today on Biden Docreed2003 May 2019 #27
Biden worse than Trump? MustLoveBeagles May 2019 #41
On SIRIUSXM Progress channel!!! Docreed2003 May 2019 #42
SMH MustLoveBeagles May 2019 #53
It's not ridiculous, it's practically the MO of progressive puritans. John Fante May 2019 #89
Obviously Tina Dupuy isn't living Cha May 2019 #62
Arm chair quarterbacking Lithos May 2019 #28
Thank You, Lithos. Cha May 2019 #64
Obviously Clarence Thomas damaged her very deep!y. Deb May 2019 #29
She has triumphed. Her peace comes from her fight for justice. delisen May 2019 #61
"If the government had shown that it would treat survivors with dignity and listen to women" ucrdem May 2019 #30
And there was stuff like her calling him which was used by Republicans to make her look bad. Demsrule86 May 2019 #51
And it gets vaguer each time. If Biden had done his job? If he hadn't she wouldn't be a celeb! ucrdem May 2019 #54
She has done OK. I am sick of hearing about it and think she is now using it to promote Demsrule86 May 2019 #56
There is something really off in those last lines: ucrdem May 2019 #65
Exactly right. Methinks there may be able ulterior motive at work. Demsrule86 May 2019 #67
Biden should vow to attempt to impeach Thomas Farmer-Rick May 2019 #35
That would be a good step in the right direction. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #81
Revisionist nonsense from Hill BannonsLiver May 2019 #38
"Gone round the bend" ? what does that mean? delisen May 2019 #40
I respect and admire her, but it's time to let it go. ecstatic May 2019 #45
Her 15 minutes of fame....are now expired. Demsrule86 May 2019 #49
Right ...because all the l problems are Bidens fault...I mean the GOP Demsrule86 May 2019 #47
Will her cause be better served with trump in ALBliberal May 2019 #72
I am losing sympathy for Anita Hill LibFarmer May 2019 #74
Yeah - why isn't she asking Hatch for an apology, calling for his resignation or linking him Skya Rhen May 2019 #82
Supporters of one candidate are doing what they did the last time NYMinute May 2019 #75
Interesting she never mentions Thomas or the Republicans. Or the recent Kavanaugh debacle emmaverybo May 2019 #83
None of them are running for president. mtnsnake May 2019 #108
This message was self-deleted by its author A-Schwarzenegger May 2019 #87
IMO, because of airing of her case against Thomas, Biden and others Kahuna7 May 2019 #95
In the 90s, my 6th or 7th grade health class covered sexual harassment , ecstatic May 2019 #99
There was a major push after the Thomas hearings to implement Kahuna7 May 2019 #100
Joe Biden 2020 ! stonecutter357 May 2019 #101
Trump will probably cancel the election anyway. Turbineguy May 2019 #102
I wonder if anyone in the Biden campaign... tonedevil May 2019 #105
They did the right thing. There was talk in the media, for months, saying that Joe should call her. Skya Rhen May 2019 #109
Lol her grudge is both impressive and misdirected Loki Liesmith May 2019 #106
I think the problem is that there is NOTHING that Biden could say flor-de-jasmim May 2019 #107
Her continued position seems spiteful, misplaced, and politically motivated. One starts wonder. LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #110
i've been surfing the web for current discussions, on this article, and she is alienating Skya Rhen May 2019 #111
 

MattP

(3,304 posts)
1. Hashtag movements weren't heard of back in the 90s
Thu May 9, 2019, 08:26 PM
May 2019

Metoo is a social media blessing I doubt without the pressure of it would be the powerful movement it is

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delisen

(6,043 posts)
44. women's rights, civil rights, gay rights-no internet
Thu May 9, 2019, 10:38 PM
May 2019

French Revolution

American Revolution

Unionism

all without the internet; all powerful

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mobeau69

(11,144 posts)
2. This just isn't going away. I feel her pain.
Thu May 9, 2019, 08:27 PM
May 2019
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Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
52. I don't. More like she blames Joe for Republicans...vindictive,
Thu May 9, 2019, 10:52 PM
May 2019
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KSNY

(315 posts)
69. Wrong there
Thu May 9, 2019, 11:23 PM
May 2019

If you read the piece, the tone is not vindictive at all.
Biden dropped the ball during the Thomas hearings, but so did other Democrats and Republicans on the committee.
If anything, the NY Times op-ed invites Biden and other public figures to be bold in crafting concrete solutions to solve the ongoing problem of sexual harassment and sexual violence.
The issue is what is most important, not whether Biden has regrets about how he ran the Thomas confirmation hearing and how she feels about that.

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ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
76. It's vindictive. Not least because of the timing but also the spin:
Thu May 9, 2019, 11:34 PM
May 2019

She says "If the Senate Judiciary Committee, led then by Mr. Biden, had done its job and held a hearing that showed that its members understood the seriousness of sexual harassment and other forms of sexual violence. . ."

Completely wrong: a) Joe did his job--that's why she's famous; b) She never accused Thomas of "sexual violence." Neither did anyone else.

To me it reads like a Benghazi hit piece.

link: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/09/opinion/anita-hill-sexual-violence.html

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KSNY

(315 posts)
77. Read the article. ...and, by the way, name-calling (i.e. "vindictive") is a crude way to respond
Thu May 9, 2019, 11:40 PM
May 2019

Biden dropped the ball. It doesn't necessarily make him an unworthy 2020 candidate, but during the Thomas hearings he did not call witnesses who could have corroborated Hill's testimony.

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ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
80. The article misrepresents the facts. Biden did not drop the ball;
Thu May 9, 2019, 11:45 PM
May 2019

in fact he reopened the hearings for an unprecedented 4th week in order to air Hill's grievances. She said her piece and said it well. The corroborating witnesses refused to testify voluntarily so Biden put their testimony in the transcript which you can read here:

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GPO-CHRG-THOMAS/pdf/GPO-CHRG-THOMAS-4.pdf

And Biden voted against Thomas twice: once in committee and again when the hearings concluded. Why Hill has turned Biden into a malefactor is anyone's guess but her story is incorrect.

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WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
92. Vindictive isn't name calling.
Fri May 10, 2019, 07:38 AM
May 2019

Is a descriptor of how they see the act. Saying it’s name calling is stretching about as far as Hill is with her piece.

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Grendam

(38 posts)
96. This is getting really old...
Fri May 10, 2019, 08:22 AM
May 2019

The continuing vilification of Biden over this is exhausting. Where are the pitch forks for Cynthia Hogan? Who?? The truth is that the hearings didn't go well for a lot reasons with plenty of blame to go around, but Biden's detractors want to see him grovel and repent (and they still wouldn't be satisfied).

There's some insightful information about all of this in a 2015 Politico article that I don't feel like digging up. Though I have some quotes from a recent Washington Post article on hand here:

“The former Biden lawyer, Cynthia Hogan, said in an interview that he approached his role during the Thomas hearings as if he were a neutral arbiter.

‘What happened is we got really politically outplayed by the Republicans,’ said Hogan, now vice president for public policy for Americas at Apple. ‘They came with a purpose, and that purpose was to destroy Anita Hill. Democrats did not coordinate and they did not prepare for battle. I think he would say that that’s what should be done differently.’"

SNIP

"In the end, Biden did not summon any of the women, and little attention was paid to Wright’s deposition, which was submitted to the written record in lieu of her testimony. Biden framed this as Wright’s decision, and the two signed a letter that stated that if she wanted to testify in person, he would honor her request. Wright, under subpoena until that point, saw it as Biden’s decision whether to call her.

Hogan, the former Biden lawyer, said she recommended that Biden place Wright’s deposition in the record instead of having her testify late on the final night. She said she saw it as a ‘slam-dunk victory’ because the interview would go unrebutted by Republicans, but now says this view was naive.

‘I feel I gave Senator Biden bad advice,’ Hogan told The Post. ‘I told him I thought it was better than having her testify live. I have felt bad about this for years.’”

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Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
94. Another thing, like Flores most recently she considers sexual harrassment...
Fri May 10, 2019, 07:58 AM
May 2019

(Florest tried to make it about a hug) the same thing as sexual violence. I reviewed the testimony and what happened to her was not sexual violence,wrong of course, but for those of us who know the difference personally, not the same thing. And there were areas of her testimony that were odd too. The GOP exploited this.I am really angry at those who use this sort of thing for political reasons and for self promotion.

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ecstatic

(32,704 posts)
98. I don't think she's being vindictive on purpose. I think Biden
Fri May 10, 2019, 10:26 AM
May 2019

haters (and people in power who just want to see drama) see her pain and are exploiting it. She has a right to be angry, but people with their own agendas keep sticking a microphone or pen in front of her to stir division and drama.

I know that she's smart enough to know when people are trying to use her, and I hope, for the sake of her own mental wellbeing, that she's done venting and feels a sense of closure.

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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
79. Yes, I'm with you & with Anita! And, hopefully, with Joe if he comes around to her way of thinkin.
Thu May 9, 2019, 11:44 PM
May 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
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WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
91. Like the Violence Against Women Act?
Fri May 10, 2019, 07:35 AM
May 2019

We know Biden’s passion.

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brush

(53,778 posts)
103. There was much more sensitivity in the workplace after those hearings...
Fri May 10, 2019, 11:13 AM
May 2019

though. Most corporations initiated sexual harassment awareness training. I went through a couple of them at different jobs in the '90s myself so there was some good that came out of the Thomas hearings.

Those training sessions were implemented by top management but the #me_too movement evolved out of the ever increasing arrogance and egregious, horrible actions of top management males like Ailes and Lauer and Weinstein and Rose and Moonves.

Seems like they had everyone else take the training but wanted to keep on abusing women for their own pleasure, to hell with taking the training themselves.

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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
3. Message received
Thu May 9, 2019, 08:29 PM
May 2019

Anita Hill doesn't like Joe Biden.
Thank you.

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Funtatlaguy

(10,875 posts)
4. Anita, we got it the first and the second and the third time.
Thu May 9, 2019, 08:31 PM
May 2019

Joe didn’t adequately apologize to you.
How many times do you have to tell us that.

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USALiberal

(10,877 posts)
22. As many times as she wants. nt
Thu May 9, 2019, 09:50 PM
May 2019
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woodsprite

(11,915 posts)
5. I'm getting a bit suspicious of this. Where was she when he
Thu May 9, 2019, 08:38 PM
May 2019

was being vetted for VP?

Someone trying to divide us?

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mobeau69

(11,144 posts)
46. There's a big difference in those two offices.
Thu May 9, 2019, 10:45 PM
May 2019

One is the most powerful position in the world. The other, as James Nice Garner pointed out, "isn't worth a bucket of warm spit".

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ALBliberal

(2,342 posts)
68. But where was she when he ran for president?
Thu May 9, 2019, 11:21 PM
May 2019

Don’t remember hearing from her

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mobeau69

(11,144 posts)
70. Fair point.
Thu May 9, 2019, 11:24 PM
May 2019

I just don't buy into conspiracy theories.

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John Fante

(3,479 posts)
84. Biden wasn't a front-runner then.
Thu May 9, 2019, 11:55 PM
May 2019
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loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
86. If we have learned nothing over the past couple of years
Fri May 10, 2019, 12:06 AM
May 2019

It's that me too was way overdue. We have a POTUS and new SC justice as a constant reminders. Anita Hill is only stating the obvious.

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6. One thing I can't understand...
Thu May 9, 2019, 08:40 PM
May 2019

...in this whole Anita Hill situation is how any story can be written in the media and CLARENCE THOMAS not be the focal point. This is in no way trying to absolve Biden for whatever blame he may have.

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KSNY

(315 posts)
78. Yes, this is a good point. Impeach Thomas, then Kavanaugh (also Barr and Trump)
Thu May 9, 2019, 11:43 PM
May 2019
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delisen

(6,043 posts)
7. Dismissing the Human Rights of Women isn't going to help a Dem candidate
Thu May 9, 2019, 08:43 PM
May 2019

The days of Intimidation and minimizing are over. Women need to reach parity in the House and Senate, Supreme Court and yes, the presidency too.

We know we must fight our our way to equality.

















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ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
60. Yes but what does that have to do with Biden?
Thu May 9, 2019, 11:10 PM
May 2019

Or Hill for that matter? It was Biden who took her seriously and let her speak her piece. And she did, for 8 hours.



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madaboutharry

(40,211 posts)
8. She is alienating me.
Thu May 9, 2019, 08:44 PM
May 2019

Anita Hill was a victim of Clarence Thomas, not Joe Biden. I think her focus is misdirected. She makes it sound as if Joe Biden should have led the charge and start the #metoo movement 30 years ago. She is ignoring all of the support he has given to the betterment of women in the time since then. Instead of recognizing who Joe Biden is today, she is placing an unreasonable amount of responsibility on him. I think it looks like a grudge and grudges never look good on anyone.

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delisen

(6,043 posts)
32. I expect all candidates for president to take responsibility for their actions.
Thu May 9, 2019, 10:25 PM
May 2019

As Harry S. Truman said "the buck stops here." (at the president's desk).

We have someone sitting at that desk who takes no responsibility and blames everyone else.

I expect a Democratic president to be accountable.

We cannot sit back and hope the person we vote for will accept responsibility and be accountable.

We need commitments from candidates now, not pie in the sky.

It is for the candidate to commit to us, before we commit to the candidate.






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whathehell

(29,067 posts)
36. Exactly...Let's put the blame where it belongs.
Thu May 9, 2019, 10:29 PM
May 2019

Biden was caught between a black man calling 'racism' and a black woman calling 'sexism'.

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Rstrstx

(1,399 posts)
9. What's her beef with Biden? Didn't Thomas and the Republican senators treat her worse?
Thu May 9, 2019, 08:47 PM
May 2019

I'm trying to remember the whole ordeal but it was a long time ago, I just remember Clarence Thomas feigning outrage at the whole spectacle. In hindsight the whole thing was small potatoes compared to Kavanaugh, but for its time it was scandalous. And didn't Biden end up voting against Thomas?

Is someone on the right nudging her along with her grievances? I haven't heard a word about her opinion of Donald Trump. I would take her more seriously if she would come out railing against Trump or the Republican Senators at the time but in her unwavering focus on Biden Biden Biden it makes me think she has an axe to grind.

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delisen

(6,043 posts)
14. We don't settle for the lesser of the worst. We expect something of candidates
Thu May 9, 2019, 09:02 PM
May 2019

because we being hopeful keeps bringing us back to the threats against our personhood, our lives and the lives of our daughters.

The current coordinated attacks taking place in the state legislatures around the country are attacking women's personhood, not the of men.

We need to get those Republican men out of government-they are the deplorables-they are not amenable to reason or appeals to democracy.

We don't need would be knights in shining armor who place bipartisanhip over our human rights.

Every candidate should be speaking up now. Would be leaders need to show strong leadership on human rights

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delisen

(6,043 posts)
37. I suggest you use a search engine if you want to to read about
Thu May 9, 2019, 10:30 PM
May 2019

Anita Hill on Trump or Claence Thomas or even Harvey Weinstein

I am surprised you have not.

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oasis

(49,387 posts)
10. If you're tearing down Biden, you're lifting up Trump. Hopefully
Thu May 9, 2019, 08:51 PM
May 2019

Anita Hill will wake up to that reality, soon.

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delisen

(6,043 posts)
16. I think Anita Hill woke up to reality a long time ago nt
Thu May 9, 2019, 09:17 PM
May 2019
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oasis

(49,387 posts)
23. "A long time ago"? It would be most helpful if she woke up
Thu May 9, 2019, 09:53 PM
May 2019

to the "big picture" in front of her today.

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delisen

(6,043 posts)
50. Condescension does not help a candidate's case.
Thu May 9, 2019, 10:50 PM
May 2019

Equality and human rights are non-negotiable in the Democratic party.

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oasis

(49,387 posts)
59. For the record, I was 100% behind Anita Hill during the
Thu May 9, 2019, 11:08 PM
May 2019

entire proceedings of Clarence Thomas Supreme Court hearings.

I've volunteered for Democratic candidates (local, state, federal) in multiple states over the past 40 years.

I'm experienced enough to know what does, or doesn't "help a candidate's case".

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Cha

(297,240 posts)
63. Asking Anita Hill to wake up
Thu May 9, 2019, 11:14 PM
May 2019

to the big picture is Not "condescending". It was a suggestion.

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BannonsLiver

(16,387 posts)
33. I'm not sure she cares about that.
Thu May 9, 2019, 10:26 PM
May 2019
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SunSeeker

(51,557 posts)
11. At this point, you're not helping, Anita. nt
Thu May 9, 2019, 08:52 PM
May 2019
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WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
12. That is an extremely poor way to go after him.
Thu May 9, 2019, 08:53 PM
May 2019

I mean really poor. I have never said a bad word about Hill. This show a lack of historical understanding. She also seems completely unaware of the great impacts of Biden’s absolute passion of ending all types of aggression toward women. And every one of us knows that’s nothing new for Biden.

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delisen

(6,043 posts)
26. I don't think Anita Hill is unaware of anything re Human Rights of Women
Thu May 9, 2019, 10:11 PM
May 2019

She is a complex person and courageous women and attacks upon her character or motivation for speaking out are unwarranted She has spoken and written about Clarence Thomas and his unfitness for the Supreme Court. I

Anita Hill spoke about her testimony in 2017.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/entertainment/get-a-motel-room-americas-favorite-sex-therapist-on-how-to-save-your-relationship/2019/05/01/e7b958f0-7c9d-4a50-a005-014f8a71eecf_video.html?utm_term=.205a6b1a5c29


from Marie Clare 5/9/2019:
about Nov 20, 2017 event at the Washington Post where Biden did not respond to an invitation to present his stnd on reproductive rights.


Let’s start with the man who’s leading opinion polls, former Vice President Joe Biden. Biden has a mixed record on reproductive rights: He’s been in public life since before Roe v. Wade was decided, and said at the time that the decision went too far because he didn’t think “that a woman has the sole right to say what should happen to her body.” He’s voted for so-called “partial birth” abortion bans, even though he’s conceded that he shouldn’t force his anti-choice views on others. Biden’s official website does not mention anything about women’s reproductive rights, rather, his section on health care simply states that he plans to “build upon the Affordable Care Act” and name-checks the opioid crisis and mental health as priorities. (I reached out to Biden's camp about the candidate's current stance on reproductive rights, but did not receive a response.)

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/reproductive-rights-aren-t-women-170800470.html

My comments:
"Partial Birth" Abortion is a right wing talking point.

I would not bring any of this up but I find the criticisms of Anita Hill to show a stunning misunderstanding of what constitutes personhood, equality, the basic right of every individual to control their bodies.

In the Democratic Party the right of every woman to control their body is not something to be subsumed as a "women's issue over which men have oversight."

Women's right to personhood is under attack by Republican legislatures right now in real time. Seeking the votes of Trump voters is fine -but not at our expense.

Candidates need to show leadership on our Human Rights now. Why should we expect less from any Democratic candidate?

If you know why or have an opinion I would like to hear your reasoning.
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WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
31. I stand behind every word I wrote.
Thu May 9, 2019, 10:22 PM
May 2019

And I did not say what you seem to think I did. I never said she wasn’t a complex woman. She clearly is.

What a poor way to go after Biden. There could be other reasons for her ignoring history and making such a connection. That’s on her. Not me. Not Biden. Not anyone.

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Cha

(297,240 posts)
73. Thank You! Yes, Anita Hill seems totally unaware
Thu May 9, 2019, 11:30 PM
May 2019

of Biden's history on being there for Women in our struggle against Violence.

Ending the Scourge of Violence Against Women

Since Joe Biden wrote the Violence Against Women Act of 1994, our culture has changed for the better. Gender-based violence is no longer considered a private issue or a “family matter,” and the fight to end it is now front and center in our national dialogue.

https://bidenfoundation.org/pillars/ending-violence-against-women/
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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
13. We keep hearing "We don't need another old white man as our candidate".
Thu May 9, 2019, 08:54 PM
May 2019

Maybe that's the message Anita wants us to hear ?

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JI7

(89,249 posts)
18. she could endorse and help some other candidate
Thu May 9, 2019, 09:23 PM
May 2019
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highplainsdem

(48,978 posts)
20. She may very well be planning to. Might have already promised one of Biden's
Thu May 9, 2019, 09:32 PM
May 2019

rivals her endorsement.

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BannonsLiver

(16,387 posts)
104. Thing is that's not Anita's call.
Fri May 10, 2019, 11:28 AM
May 2019

It’s the voters who will determine that, not just people who don’t like them.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
15. Not a surprise. Don't agree, but not a surprise.
Thu May 9, 2019, 09:04 PM
May 2019
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ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
17. I don't think Hill is a Democrat.
Thu May 9, 2019, 09:20 PM
May 2019

Going to work for Clarence Thomas twice would suggest otherwise. In any case she's clearly not planning to be of the least help in getting Biden elected which is fine. Why she keeps tearing into Biden and not Thomas I don't know. And who can tell what she is expecting him to do? Quit the race? No, that's not going to happen.

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BannonsLiver

(16,387 posts)
34. I've often wondered this myself
Thu May 9, 2019, 10:27 PM
May 2019

She also hails from rural Oklahoma which is not a bastion of liberalism.

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ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
57. It would explain a lot. nt
Thu May 9, 2019, 11:06 PM
May 2019
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highplainsdem

(48,978 posts)
19. Very disappointing criticism. Also NOT TRUE. As MattP pointed out in the first reply here,
Thu May 9, 2019, 09:28 PM
May 2019

#MeToo is a social media movement.

She's putting entirely too much blame on Biden.

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Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
97. She should be taking a bow for the workplace rules and enforcement...
Fri May 10, 2019, 08:36 AM
May 2019

as a result of the hearing. Take it from me. I'm about the same age of Hill, and suffered routine workplace sexual harassment before the Thomas hearing. Rules, and workplace training grew out of that event. Take a bow, Ms. Hill. Take a bow

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4139

(1,893 posts)
21. Does she write that if she had kept contemporaneous notes thing would have been different?
Thu May 9, 2019, 09:45 PM
May 2019

She was a lawyer and she didn’t keep notes.

Don’t know why she has suddenly decided to go after all these years, and she has a legitimate gripe with Joe, but she should be kicking her failed lawyer training also


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msongs

(67,406 posts)
24. not. sorta dumping the weight of the world on biden and blaming him for all history nt
Thu May 9, 2019, 09:54 PM
May 2019
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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
25. #MeToo in the early '90s?
Thu May 9, 2019, 10:09 PM
May 2019

Without Social Networks? Without the internet? How does a single confirmation hearing spark a broadly based mass movement? A feature in MS? White men would hide race as per usual.

She’s kidding herself AND rewriting history. That’s a red flag for me.

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delisen

(6,043 posts)
43. Actually we had mass movements before the internet.
Thu May 9, 2019, 10:35 PM
May 2019

quite significant movements:

Women's right to vote

Civil rights

Anti-war

Gay rights

I am sorry you are unaware of them. They are well-documented.

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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
48. Yes. And each one sparked by an incident on TV
Thu May 9, 2019, 10:48 PM
May 2019
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delisen

(6,043 posts)
58. There was no tv when women fought for the right to vote.
Thu May 9, 2019, 11:06 PM
May 2019

The Civil Rights movement was sparked in small towns across the south.

De-institutionalization movements Television reporters often never showed up up until we would get our first newspaper coverage-after we organized.

French Revolution? American Revolution? (no tv, no internet)

People have communicated, organized, won and lost mass movements throughout history all over the world before radio, before television, before internet and social media.

`

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WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
93. You made their point very well. NT
Fri May 10, 2019, 07:50 AM
May 2019
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Docreed2003

(16,859 posts)
27. This actually isn't the worst attack I've heard today on Biden
Thu May 9, 2019, 10:17 PM
May 2019

Tina Dupuy was filling in tonight for Dean Obeidallah on his radio show and she actually said nominating Biden would be like nominating someone "WORSE THAN TRUMP". I just turned the channel

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MustLoveBeagles

(11,611 posts)
41. Biden worse than Trump?
Thu May 9, 2019, 10:34 PM
May 2019


Talk about out of touch with reality.
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Docreed2003

(16,859 posts)
42. On SIRIUSXM Progress channel!!!
Thu May 9, 2019, 10:35 PM
May 2019

And she led off the show with that! Unbelievable!

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MustLoveBeagles

(11,611 posts)
53. SMH
Thu May 9, 2019, 10:56 PM
May 2019

I hope you weren't driving when you heard that nonsense. Joe's not perfect by any means but COME ON! This is getting ridiculous.

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John Fante

(3,479 posts)
89. It's not ridiculous, it's practically the MO of progressive puritans.
Fri May 10, 2019, 12:36 AM
May 2019

Look at Jimmy Dore. He spends for more time attacking Democrats than he does Trump.

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Cha

(297,240 posts)
62. Obviously Tina Dupuy isn't living
Thu May 9, 2019, 11:12 PM
May 2019

in reality.. Sarandon called and wants her talking point back.

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Lithos

(26,403 posts)
28. Arm chair quarterbacking
Thu May 9, 2019, 10:21 PM
May 2019

Post-facto - mea culpa....

Coulda-shoulda type of thinking...

There is zero evidence that even if he had stood up that the MeToo movement would have happened then...

Joe is not my preferred - but not gonna reinvent history either way...



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Cha

(297,240 posts)
64. Thank You, Lithos.
Thu May 9, 2019, 11:16 PM
May 2019
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Deb

(3,742 posts)
29. Obviously Clarence Thomas damaged her very deep!y.
Thu May 9, 2019, 10:22 PM
May 2019

That didn't come across during the hearings. I hope she can find peace.

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delisen

(6,043 posts)
61. She has triumphed. Her peace comes from her fight for justice.
Thu May 9, 2019, 11:11 PM
May 2019

I deplore the misogyny her I don't intend to flinch from it or be intimidated by it.

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ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
30. "If the government had shown that it would treat survivors with dignity and listen to women"
Thu May 9, 2019, 10:22 PM
May 2019

Oddly enough, Biden treated Hill with perfect dignity and listened to her. In fact, he gave her a platform for the entire world to listen to her. And she did not describe herself as a survivor of sexual violence. She said Thomas talked about sex at work. That is a different matter altogether.

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Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
51. And there was stuff like her calling him which was used by Republicans to make her look bad.
Thu May 9, 2019, 10:51 PM
May 2019

She is another one.,,not one word about Republicans just bashing a Democrat.

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ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
54. And it gets vaguer each time. If Biden had done his job? If he hadn't she wouldn't be a celeb!
Thu May 9, 2019, 10:59 PM
May 2019
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Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
56. She has done OK. I am sick of hearing about it and think she is now using it to promote
Thu May 9, 2019, 11:05 PM
May 2019

Herself,

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ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
65. There is something really off in those last lines:
Thu May 9, 2019, 11:19 PM
May 2019

“I cannot be satisfied by simply saying, ‘I’m sorry for what happened to you,’” she said. “I will be satisfied when I know there is real change and real accountability and real purpose.”

Okay so she's not a pushover and refuses to accept apologies even when they aren't warranted. Fine. But a rational person would let it go and not turn it into some deathless vendetta against the guy who ran the hearings and had nothing whatever to do with her harassment.

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Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
67. Exactly right. Methinks there may be able ulterior motive at work.
Thu May 9, 2019, 11:20 PM
May 2019
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Farmer-Rick

(10,172 posts)
35. Biden should vow to attempt to impeach Thomas
Thu May 9, 2019, 10:28 PM
May 2019

Thomas was taking bribes and never declared it as it was hidden in his wife's income that he failed to report for 6 years.

Aside from his sexual abuse, there is enough to impeach the crook.

Biden should make it a campaign promise.

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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
81. That would be a good step in the right direction.
Thu May 9, 2019, 11:45 PM
May 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
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BannonsLiver

(16,387 posts)
38. Revisionist nonsense from Hill
Thu May 9, 2019, 10:30 PM
May 2019

No one man or woman had that power. She’s gone ‘round the bend, I’m afraid.

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delisen

(6,043 posts)
40. "Gone round the bend" ? what does that mean?
Thu May 9, 2019, 10:32 PM
May 2019
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ecstatic

(32,704 posts)
45. I respect and admire her, but it's time to let it go.
Thu May 9, 2019, 10:41 PM
May 2019

You don't have to personally forgive him, but publicly, just let the feud go.

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Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
49. Her 15 minutes of fame....are now expired.
Thu May 9, 2019, 10:49 PM
May 2019
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Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
47. Right ...because all the l problems are Bidens fault...I mean the GOP
Thu May 9, 2019, 10:48 PM
May 2019

were just great to you like Arlen Spector. Anita ... I was sexually harassed Anita too and I didn't get a hearing and got fired. You are obviously rooting for Trump...and it was 30 Years ago.

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ALBliberal

(2,342 posts)
72. Will her cause be better served with trump in
Thu May 9, 2019, 11:27 PM
May 2019

office? Does Biden get zero credit for the Violence Against Women Act? Why didn’t she come out strongly in 2008 when Biden ran? Idk... I guess she will just keep on...

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LibFarmer

(772 posts)
74. I am losing sympathy for Anita Hill
Thu May 9, 2019, 11:31 PM
May 2019

She seems to be milking this.

She was treated badly by Specter, Hatch and Simpson.

Biden treated her with respect.

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Skya Rhen

(2,701 posts)
82. Yeah - why isn't she asking Hatch for an apology, calling for his resignation or linking him
Thu May 9, 2019, 11:51 PM
May 2019

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directly to the appointment of Thomas and Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court, despite credible sexual misconduct claims?

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NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
75. Supporters of one candidate are doing what they did the last time
Thu May 9, 2019, 11:33 PM
May 2019

Bring down the Democratic nominee (or presumed nominee).

It doesn't benefit their candidate one iota but it sure does help Trump to use the same attacks in the GE.

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emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
83. Interesting she never mentions Thomas or the Republicans. Or the recent Kavanaugh debacle
Thu May 9, 2019, 11:53 PM
May 2019

It would be timely if she did. The Republicans are still endangering and demeaning women, while Biden, since the hearing, went on to introduce and co-author the VAWA.

Biden has had nothing but praise for Hill. He supported her in getting the hearing in the first place. He voted against Thomas. I saw the hearing. At the time there was no Biden vs. Hill issue.

She is way out of line, harboring a grudge she doesn’t seem to hold against Thomas, Grassley, Spector, Simpson, Heflin—who called her delusional and a fantasist.

And has she anything to say about the process itself? It’s a flawed one as we have had to learn all over.

SC justice nominees should be thoroughly vetted, not background checked through self-reporting and nepotistic character references. Allegations of sexual misconduct should be handled by a trained investigator, moved on to crime investigations if that’s called for, and if not, their credibility established through best as possible but without sham court style proceedings.

Hill has so many avenues to go down using her own experience, but is stuck on one path. That seems to be undermining Biden’s candidacy. Interesting.

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mtnsnake

(22,236 posts)
108. None of them are running for president.
Fri May 10, 2019, 02:36 PM
May 2019
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Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
95. IMO, because of airing of her case against Thomas, Biden and others
Fri May 10, 2019, 08:14 AM
May 2019

did do their jobs to see to it that workplace sexual harassment rules were implemented and enforced.

I know has a woman who had been routinely sexually harassed in the workplace, the relief I felt when finally there were rules and training for employers and supervisors and a process for redress. Employers were put on notice.
• 1991
In 1991, the Civil Rights Act of 1991 was passed. This added additions to Title VII that gave people across the country more protections when it came to discrimination at work. This act allowed victims of sexual harassment and discrimination the right to a jury as well as compensatory and punitive damages as a result of the harassment.


I don't know what decade Hill is living in but there has been monumental change since her hearing and she should take great pride in her contribution to the change that affects all women.

I recall, telling a young coworker in 2003 about how rampant sexual harassment had been and she called me a liar. She didn't believe it. So, thanks to Ms. Hill, this very beautiful young women had no history with sexual harassment.


https://fairygodboss.com/career-topics/sexual-harassment-laws

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ecstatic

(32,704 posts)
99. In the 90s, my 6th or 7th grade health class covered sexual harassment ,
Fri May 10, 2019, 10:37 AM
May 2019

and I'm sure it was in response to Anita's bravery. I don't remember anything else from that class, but I remember that part: Just say "no" or "stop." Now I'm wondering if my school was unique in adding that to the curriculum or if it was taught everywhere.

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Kahuna7

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100. There was a major push after the Thomas hearings to implement
Fri May 10, 2019, 10:53 AM
May 2019

workplace training. Your school wasn't unique. That push did a helluva lot more than #metoo because actual laws and programs came about. So I don't understand why Hill, who is the Mother of this push won't just take a bow. She accomplished something every woman can be thankful for. I know I was.

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Turbineguy

(37,331 posts)
102. Trump will probably cancel the election anyway.
Fri May 10, 2019, 10:57 AM
May 2019

We should all be punished for what Clarence Thomas allegedly did.

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tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
105. I wonder if anyone in the Biden campaign...
Fri May 10, 2019, 11:56 AM
May 2019

or even VP Biden himself is rethinking the wisdom of him calling Anita Hill to "apologize" weeks before he was going to throw his hat in the ring?

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Skya Rhen

(2,701 posts)
109. They did the right thing. There was talk in the media, for months, saying that Joe should call her.
Fri May 10, 2019, 02:49 PM
May 2019

If he did not call, they would have pounced on him much more viciously by saying that he is ignoring it and not taking it seriously, etc., etc...

His call definitely blunted their pre-planned attack. His campaign was wise to be pre-emptive, even if some detractors say it was "not soon enough".

I have learned that, in life, it is impossible to please everyone so it's best to just so what you feel is appropriate and leave it at that...

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Loki Liesmith

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106. Lol her grudge is both impressive and misdirected
Fri May 10, 2019, 12:43 PM
May 2019
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flor-de-jasmim

(2,125 posts)
107. I think the problem is that there is NOTHING that Biden could say
Fri May 10, 2019, 12:52 PM
May 2019

... that would likely appease her. And that is now on her.

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LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
110. Her continued position seems spiteful, misplaced, and politically motivated. One starts wonder.
Fri May 10, 2019, 02:58 PM
May 2019
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Skya Rhen

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111. i've been surfing the web for current discussions, on this article, and she is alienating
Fri May 10, 2019, 03:11 PM
May 2019

a huge chunk of posters/commenters, rapidly.

A few weeks ago, most people were sympathetic toward her but now they are feeling as if she has other motives for her relentless attacks on Biden. Many are definitely viewing her in a different light and are calling her out...

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