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Related: About this forumAnita Hill: If Biden Had Done His Job #MeToo Could've Started Decades Ago
Professor Anita Hill took to the opinion pages of The New York Times on Thursday to take former Vice President Joe Biden to task for his handling of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomass confirmation hearings. In an op-ed titled, Lets Talk About How to End Sexual Violence, Hill, who had accused Thomas of sexual misconduct in the early 1990s, suggested that the #MeToo era may not have taken decades to materialize if Biden and the committee he presided over had understood the seriousness of sexual harassment. If the government had shown that it would treat survivors with dignity and listen to women, it could have had a ripple effect, she wrote. Hills concerns with Biden have taken on new relevance after he formally announced his candidacy for the Democratic nomination in 2020.
Biden reached out to Hill prior to launching his bid and recounted excerpts from their conversation on a live television appearance on The View, where he stopped short of directly apologizing for his personal behavior. Hill told the Times she was unmoved by his gesture. I cannot be satisfied by simply saying, Im sorry for what happened to you, she said. I will be satisfied when I know there is real change and real accountability and real purpose.
Read it at New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/09/opinion/anita-hill-sexual-violence.html
https://www.thedailybeast.com/anita-hill-if-biden-had-done-his-job-metoo-couldve-started-decades-ago
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MattP
(3,304 posts)Metoo is a social media blessing I doubt without the pressure of it would be the powerful movement it is
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
delisen
(6,043 posts)French Revolution
American Revolution
Unionism
all without the internet; all powerful
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
mobeau69
(11,144 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
If you read the piece, the tone is not vindictive at all.
Biden dropped the ball during the Thomas hearings, but so did other Democrats and Republicans on the committee.
If anything, the NY Times op-ed invites Biden and other public figures to be bold in crafting concrete solutions to solve the ongoing problem of sexual harassment and sexual violence.
The issue is what is most important, not whether Biden has regrets about how he ran the Thomas confirmation hearing and how she feels about that.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)She says "If the Senate Judiciary Committee, led then by Mr. Biden, had done its job and held a hearing that showed that its members understood the seriousness of sexual harassment and other forms of sexual violence. . ."
Completely wrong: a) Joe did his job--that's why she's famous; b) She never accused Thomas of "sexual violence." Neither did anyone else.
To me it reads like a Benghazi hit piece.
link: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/09/opinion/anita-hill-sexual-violence.html
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
KSNY
(315 posts)Biden dropped the ball. It doesn't necessarily make him an unworthy 2020 candidate, but during the Thomas hearings he did not call witnesses who could have corroborated Hill's testimony.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)in fact he reopened the hearings for an unprecedented 4th week in order to air Hill's grievances. She said her piece and said it well. The corroborating witnesses refused to testify voluntarily so Biden put their testimony in the transcript which you can read here:
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GPO-CHRG-THOMAS/pdf/GPO-CHRG-THOMAS-4.pdf
And Biden voted against Thomas twice: once in committee and again when the hearings concluded. Why Hill has turned Biden into a malefactor is anyone's guess but her story is incorrect.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)Is a descriptor of how they see the act. Saying its name calling is stretching about as far as Hill is with her piece.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Grendam
(38 posts)The continuing vilification of Biden over this is exhausting. Where are the pitch forks for Cynthia Hogan? Who?? The truth is that the hearings didn't go well for a lot reasons with plenty of blame to go around, but Biden's detractors want to see him grovel and repent (and they still wouldn't be satisfied).
There's some insightful information about all of this in a 2015 Politico article that I don't feel like digging up. Though I have some quotes from a recent Washington Post article on hand here:
The former Biden lawyer, Cynthia Hogan, said in an interview that he approached his role during the Thomas hearings as if he were a neutral arbiter.
What happened is we got really politically outplayed by the Republicans, said Hogan, now vice president for public policy for Americas at Apple. They came with a purpose, and that purpose was to destroy Anita Hill. Democrats did not coordinate and they did not prepare for battle. I think he would say that thats what should be done differently."
SNIP
"In the end, Biden did not summon any of the women, and little attention was paid to Wrights deposition, which was submitted to the written record in lieu of her testimony. Biden framed this as Wrights decision, and the two signed a letter that stated that if she wanted to testify in person, he would honor her request. Wright, under subpoena until that point, saw it as Bidens decision whether to call her.
Hogan, the former Biden lawyer, said she recommended that Biden place Wrights deposition in the record instead of having her testify late on the final night. She said she saw it as a slam-dunk victory because the interview would go unrebutted by Republicans, but now says this view was naive.
I feel I gave Senator Biden bad advice, Hogan told The Post. I told him I thought it was better than having her testify live. I have felt bad about this for years.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)(Florest tried to make it about a hug) the same thing as sexual violence. I reviewed the testimony and what happened to her was not sexual violence,wrong of course, but for those of us who know the difference personally, not the same thing. And there were areas of her testimony that were odd too. The GOP exploited this.I am really angry at those who use this sort of thing for political reasons and for self promotion.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ecstatic
(32,704 posts)haters (and people in power who just want to see drama) see her pain and are exploiting it. She has a right to be angry, but people with their own agendas keep sticking a microphone or pen in front of her to stir division and drama.
I know that she's smart enough to know when people are trying to use her, and I hope, for the sake of her own mental wellbeing, that she's done venting and feels a sense of closure.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
at140
(6,110 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)We know Bidens passion.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brush
(53,778 posts)though. Most corporations initiated sexual harassment awareness training. I went through a couple of them at different jobs in the '90s myself so there was some good that came out of the Thomas hearings.
Those training sessions were implemented by top management but the #me_too movement evolved out of the ever increasing arrogance and egregious, horrible actions of top management males like Ailes and Lauer and Weinstein and Rose and Moonves.
Seems like they had everyone else take the training but wanted to keep on abusing women for their own pleasure, to hell with taking the training themselves.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Anita Hill doesn't like Joe Biden.
Thank you.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Funtatlaguy
(10,875 posts)Joe didnt adequately apologize to you.
How many times do you have to tell us that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
EveHammond13
(2,855 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
woodsprite
(11,915 posts)was being vetted for VP?
Someone trying to divide us?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mobeau69
(11,144 posts)One is the most powerful position in the world. The other, as James Nice Garner pointed out, "isn't worth a bucket of warm spit".
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ALBliberal
(2,342 posts)Dont remember hearing from her
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mobeau69
(11,144 posts)I just don't buy into conspiracy theories.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
John Fante
(3,479 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)It's that me too was way overdue. We have a POTUS and new SC justice as a constant reminders. Anita Hill is only stating the obvious.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
UncleTomsEvilBrother
(945 posts)...in this whole Anita Hill situation is how any story can be written in the media and CLARENCE THOMAS not be the focal point. This is in no way trying to absolve Biden for whatever blame he may have.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
KSNY
(315 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
delisen
(6,043 posts)The days of Intimidation and minimizing are over. Women need to reach parity in the House and Senate, Supreme Court and yes, the presidency too.
We know we must fight our our way to equality.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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ucrdem
(15,512 posts)Or Hill for that matter? It was Biden who took her seriously and let her speak her piece. And she did, for 8 hours.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
madaboutharry
(40,211 posts)Anita Hill was a victim of Clarence Thomas, not Joe Biden. I think her focus is misdirected. She makes it sound as if Joe Biden should have led the charge and start the #metoo movement 30 years ago. She is ignoring all of the support he has given to the betterment of women in the time since then. Instead of recognizing who Joe Biden is today, she is placing an unreasonable amount of responsibility on him. I think it looks like a grudge and grudges never look good on anyone.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
delisen
(6,043 posts)As Harry S. Truman said "the buck stops here." (at the president's desk).
We have someone sitting at that desk who takes no responsibility and blames everyone else.
I expect a Democratic president to be accountable.
We cannot sit back and hope the person we vote for will accept responsibility and be accountable.
We need commitments from candidates now, not pie in the sky.
It is for the candidate to commit to us, before we commit to the candidate.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
whathehell
(29,067 posts)Biden was caught between a black man calling 'racism' and a black woman calling 'sexism'.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Rstrstx
(1,399 posts)I'm trying to remember the whole ordeal but it was a long time ago, I just remember Clarence Thomas feigning outrage at the whole spectacle. In hindsight the whole thing was small potatoes compared to Kavanaugh, but for its time it was scandalous. And didn't Biden end up voting against Thomas?
Is someone on the right nudging her along with her grievances? I haven't heard a word about her opinion of Donald Trump. I would take her more seriously if she would come out railing against Trump or the Republican Senators at the time but in her unwavering focus on Biden Biden Biden it makes me think she has an axe to grind.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
delisen
(6,043 posts)because we being hopeful keeps bringing us back to the threats against our personhood, our lives and the lives of our daughters.
The current coordinated attacks taking place in the state legislatures around the country are attacking women's personhood, not the of men.
We need to get those Republican men out of government-they are the deplorables-they are not amenable to reason or appeals to democracy.
We don't need would be knights in shining armor who place bipartisanhip over our human rights.
Every candidate should be speaking up now. Would be leaders need to show strong leadership on human rights
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
delisen
(6,043 posts)Anita Hill on Trump or Claence Thomas or even Harvey Weinstein
I am surprised you have not.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
oasis
(49,387 posts)Anita Hill will wake up to that reality, soon.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
delisen
(6,043 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
oasis
(49,387 posts)to the "big picture" in front of her today.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
delisen
(6,043 posts)Equality and human rights are non-negotiable in the Democratic party.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
oasis
(49,387 posts)entire proceedings of Clarence Thomas Supreme Court hearings.
I've volunteered for Democratic candidates (local, state, federal) in multiple states over the past 40 years.
I'm experienced enough to know what does, or doesn't "help a candidate's case".
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,240 posts)to the big picture is Not "condescending". It was a suggestion.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,387 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SunSeeker
(51,557 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)I mean really poor. I have never said a bad word about Hill. This show a lack of historical understanding. She also seems completely unaware of the great impacts of Bidens absolute passion of ending all types of aggression toward women. And every one of us knows thats nothing new for Biden.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
delisen
(6,043 posts)She is a complex person and courageous women and attacks upon her character or motivation for speaking out are unwarranted She has spoken and written about Clarence Thomas and his unfitness for the Supreme Court. I
Anita Hill spoke about her testimony in 2017.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/entertainment/get-a-motel-room-americas-favorite-sex-therapist-on-how-to-save-your-relationship/2019/05/01/e7b958f0-7c9d-4a50-a005-014f8a71eecf_video.html?utm_term=.205a6b1a5c29
from Marie Clare 5/9/2019:
about Nov 20, 2017 event at the Washington Post where Biden did not respond to an invitation to present his stnd on reproductive rights.
Lets start with the man whos leading opinion polls, former Vice President Joe Biden. Biden has a mixed record on reproductive rights: Hes been in public life since before Roe v. Wade was decided, and said at the time that the decision went too far because he didnt think that a woman has the sole right to say what should happen to her body. Hes voted for so-called partial birth abortion bans, even though hes conceded that he shouldnt force his anti-choice views on others. Bidens official website does not mention anything about womens reproductive rights, rather, his section on health care simply states that he plans to build upon the Affordable Care Act and name-checks the opioid crisis and mental health as priorities. (I reached out to Biden's camp about the candidate's current stance on reproductive rights, but did not receive a response.)
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/reproductive-rights-aren-t-women-170800470.html
My comments:
"Partial Birth" Abortion is a right wing talking point.
I would not bring any of this up but I find the criticisms of Anita Hill to show a stunning misunderstanding of what constitutes personhood, equality, the basic right of every individual to control their bodies.
In the Democratic Party the right of every woman to control their body is not something to be subsumed as a "women's issue over which men have oversight."
Women's right to personhood is under attack by Republican legislatures right now in real time. Seeking the votes of Trump voters is fine -but not at our expense.
Candidates need to show leadership on our Human Rights now. Why should we expect less from any Democratic candidate?
If you know why or have an opinion I would like to hear your reasoning.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)And I did not say what you seem to think I did. I never said she wasnt a complex woman. She clearly is.
What a poor way to go after Biden. There could be other reasons for her ignoring history and making such a connection. Thats on her. Not me. Not Biden. Not anyone.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
burrowowl
(17,641 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,240 posts)of Biden's history on being there for Women in our struggle against Violence.
Ending the Scourge of Violence Against Women
https://bidenfoundation.org/pillars/ending-violence-against-women/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Maybe that's the message Anita wants us to hear ?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JI7
(89,249 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
highplainsdem
(48,978 posts)rivals her endorsement.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,387 posts)Its the voters who will determine that, not just people who dont like them.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)Going to work for Clarence Thomas twice would suggest otherwise. In any case she's clearly not planning to be of the least help in getting Biden elected which is fine. Why she keeps tearing into Biden and not Thomas I don't know. And who can tell what she is expecting him to do? Quit the race? No, that's not going to happen.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,387 posts)She also hails from rural Oklahoma which is not a bastion of liberalism.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(48,978 posts)#MeToo is a social media movement.
She's putting entirely too much blame on Biden.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kahuna7
(2,531 posts)as a result of the hearing. Take it from me. I'm about the same age of Hill, and suffered routine workplace sexual harassment before the Thomas hearing. Rules, and workplace training grew out of that event. Take a bow, Ms. Hill. Take a bow
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
4139
(1,893 posts)She was a lawyer and she didnt keep notes.
Dont know why she has suddenly decided to go after all these years, and she has a legitimate gripe with Joe, but she should be kicking her failed lawyer training also
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
msongs
(67,406 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
crazytown
(7,277 posts)Without Social Networks? Without the internet? How does a single confirmation hearing spark a broadly based mass movement? A feature in MS? White men would hide race as per usual.
Shes kidding herself AND rewriting history. Thats a red flag for me.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
delisen
(6,043 posts)quite significant movements:
Women's right to vote
Civil rights
Anti-war
Gay rights
I am sorry you are unaware of them. They are well-documented.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
crazytown
(7,277 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
delisen
(6,043 posts)The Civil Rights movement was sparked in small towns across the south.
De-institutionalization movements Television reporters often never showed up up until we would get our first newspaper coverage-after we organized.
French Revolution? American Revolution? (no tv, no internet)
People have communicated, organized, won and lost mass movements throughout history all over the world before radio, before television, before internet and social media.
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primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
crazytown
(7,277 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Docreed2003
(16,859 posts)Tina Dupuy was filling in tonight for Dean Obeidallah on his radio show and she actually said nominating Biden would be like nominating someone "WORSE THAN TRUMP". I just turned the channel
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MustLoveBeagles
(11,611 posts)Talk about out of touch with reality.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Docreed2003
(16,859 posts)And she led off the show with that! Unbelievable!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MustLoveBeagles
(11,611 posts)I hope you weren't driving when you heard that nonsense. Joe's not perfect by any means but COME ON! This is getting ridiculous.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
John Fante
(3,479 posts)Look at Jimmy Dore. He spends for more time attacking Democrats than he does Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,240 posts)in reality.. Sarandon called and wants her talking point back.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Lithos
(26,403 posts)Post-facto - mea culpa....
Coulda-shoulda type of thinking...
There is zero evidence that even if he had stood up that the MeToo movement would have happened then...
Joe is not my preferred - but not gonna reinvent history either way...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,240 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Deb
(3,742 posts)That didn't come across during the hearings. I hope she can find peace.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
delisen
(6,043 posts)I deplore the misogyny her I don't intend to flinch from it or be intimidated by it.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)Oddly enough, Biden treated Hill with perfect dignity and listened to her. In fact, he gave her a platform for the entire world to listen to her. And she did not describe herself as a survivor of sexual violence. She said Thomas talked about sex at work. That is a different matter altogether.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)She is another one.,,not one word about Republicans just bashing a Democrat.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)Herself,
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)I cannot be satisfied by simply saying, Im sorry for what happened to you, she said. I will be satisfied when I know there is real change and real accountability and real purpose.
Okay so she's not a pushover and refuses to accept apologies even when they aren't warranted. Fine. But a rational person would let it go and not turn it into some deathless vendetta against the guy who ran the hearings and had nothing whatever to do with her harassment.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Farmer-Rick
(10,172 posts)Thomas was taking bribes and never declared it as it was hidden in his wife's income that he failed to report for 6 years.
Aside from his sexual abuse, there is enough to impeach the crook.
Biden should make it a campaign promise.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BannonsLiver
(16,387 posts)No one man or woman had that power. Shes gone round the bend, Im afraid.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
delisen
(6,043 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ecstatic
(32,704 posts)You don't have to personally forgive him, but publicly, just let the feud go.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)were just great to you like Arlen Spector. Anita ... I was sexually harassed Anita too and I didn't get a hearing and got fired. You are obviously rooting for Trump...and it was 30 Years ago.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ALBliberal
(2,342 posts)office? Does Biden get zero credit for the Violence Against Women Act? Why didnt she come out strongly in 2008 when Biden ran? Idk... I guess she will just keep on...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LibFarmer
(772 posts)She seems to be milking this.
She was treated badly by Specter, Hatch and Simpson.
Biden treated her with respect.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skya Rhen
(2,701 posts)Last edited Fri May 10, 2019, 01:16 AM - Edit history (5)
directly to the appointment of Thomas and Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court, despite credible sexual misconduct claims?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)Bring down the Democratic nominee (or presumed nominee).
It doesn't benefit their candidate one iota but it sure does help Trump to use the same attacks in the GE.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)It would be timely if she did. The Republicans are still endangering and demeaning women, while Biden, since the hearing, went on to introduce and co-author the VAWA.
Biden has had nothing but praise for Hill. He supported her in getting the hearing in the first place. He voted against Thomas. I saw the hearing. At the time there was no Biden vs. Hill issue.
She is way out of line, harboring a grudge she doesnt seem to hold against Thomas, Grassley, Spector, Simpson, Heflinwho called her delusional and a fantasist.
And has she anything to say about the process itself? Its a flawed one as we have had to learn all over.
SC justice nominees should be thoroughly vetted, not background checked through self-reporting and nepotistic character references. Allegations of sexual misconduct should be handled by a trained investigator, moved on to crime investigations if thats called for, and if not, their credibility established through best as possible but without sham court style proceedings.
Hill has so many avenues to go down using her own experience, but is stuck on one path. That seems to be undermining Bidens candidacy. Interesting.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mtnsnake
(22,236 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Kahuna7
(2,531 posts)did do their jobs to see to it that workplace sexual harassment rules were implemented and enforced.
I know has a woman who had been routinely sexually harassed in the workplace, the relief I felt when finally there were rules and training for employers and supervisors and a process for redress. Employers were put on notice.
1991
In 1991, the Civil Rights Act of 1991 was passed. This added additions to Title VII that gave people across the country more protections when it came to discrimination at work. This act allowed victims of sexual harassment and discrimination the right to a jury as well as compensatory and punitive damages as a result of the harassment.
I don't know what decade Hill is living in but there has been monumental change since her hearing and she should take great pride in her contribution to the change that affects all women.
I recall, telling a young coworker in 2003 about how rampant sexual harassment had been and she called me a liar. She didn't believe it. So, thanks to Ms. Hill, this very beautiful young women had no history with sexual harassment.
https://fairygodboss.com/career-topics/sexual-harassment-laws
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ecstatic
(32,704 posts)and I'm sure it was in response to Anita's bravery. I don't remember anything else from that class, but I remember that part: Just say "no" or "stop." Now I'm wondering if my school was unique in adding that to the curriculum or if it was taught everywhere.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kahuna7
(2,531 posts)workplace training. Your school wasn't unique. That push did a helluva lot more than #metoo because actual laws and programs came about. So I don't understand why Hill, who is the Mother of this push won't just take a bow. She accomplished something every woman can be thankful for. I know I was.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Turbineguy
(37,331 posts)We should all be punished for what Clarence Thomas allegedly did.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tonedevil
(3,022 posts)or even VP Biden himself is rethinking the wisdom of him calling Anita Hill to "apologize" weeks before he was going to throw his hat in the ring?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Skya Rhen
(2,701 posts)If he did not call, they would have pounced on him much more viciously by saying that he is ignoring it and not taking it seriously, etc., etc...
His call definitely blunted their pre-planned attack. His campaign was wise to be pre-emptive, even if some detractors say it was "not soon enough".
I have learned that, in life, it is impossible to please everyone so it's best to just so what you feel is appropriate and leave it at that...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
flor-de-jasmim
(2,125 posts)... that would likely appease her. And that is now on her.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skya Rhen
(2,701 posts)a huge chunk of posters/commenters, rapidly.
A few weeks ago, most people were sympathetic toward her but now they are feeling as if she has other motives for her relentless attacks on Biden. Many are definitely viewing her in a different light and are calling her out...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden