Those who have dismissed Warren as "unlikable," "unrelatable" or "unelectable" . . .

[markpkessinger]

. . . really need to take another look.

Democrats who have bought into the idea that Elizabeth Warren is "unelectable" really need to take another look. In terms of laying out a clear and coherent policy agenda, she is miles ahead of any of the other candidates. A number of candidates have now joined her stance against appearing in any events hosted by Fox News, but it was Elizabeth Warren who led the way, and made such a compelling case.

She is leading the way in her development of economic policies. One of those policies, a plan to reach out to small business owners to get them to understand that their interests and those of giant corporations are fundamentally different (see The Atlantic, "Elizabeth Warren Has a Theory About Corporate Power" ), is a real innovation for a Democratic candidate. And in response to the outrageous abortion laws just passed in Georgia and Alabama, she has come out with a bold plan to protect a woman's right to choose.

This is what leadership looks like, folks.

[Chin music]

1. Leadership, w an articulable plan. GOOD PLANS, UP FRONT.

Un-electable my ass.

[markpkessinger]

2. +1

Amen!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

55. Seriously! Elizabeth might be the smartest, most well-polished & informed candidate

to ever run for President. Unelectable?! Ridiculous!!


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[DemocracyMouse]

86. People, people... are we so gullible? Warren is wonderfully charming in her own wonderful way!

You do realize that ridiculous "accusation" was made up, and spread, by a consortium of Republican and Russians... and carried by half-witted Democrats?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

87. If Warren gets the nomination, she will DESTROY tRumpty Dumbty... would be fun to watch!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[katmondoo]

3. I am happy she is finally being recognized

[Funtatlaguy]

27. Ditto. She's awesome

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

56. Damn straight!! Elizabeth deserves our utmost respect and admiration!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[appalachiablue]

4. Warren has it all, to bring to an enormous job. Cries of 'unelectable'

usually mean not 'moderate' enough. She's already been derided as 'too professorish,' a 'schoolmarm,' a 'kook' and an OP based on her wearing eyeglasses. Unbelievable. Cuz whut, "guys don't make passes at girls who wear glasses," well worn sexism.

[DemocracyMouse]

30. All that nonsense is generated by Republicans and Russians

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

57. BINGO!!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[NurseJackie]

5. I like her perfectly fine! She's wonderful!

There's only ONE candidate that I truly dislike... but as far as Warren is concerned, she has the demeanor and the stamina that would serve her well as president. I like that she LISTENS to others and that she DOES NOT INTERRUPT others by waving her hand in their faces. Whenever I see anyone doing that, I can't help but think how arrogant and disrespectful it is. She has a genuineness and sincerity that truly shows through and I think that connects with voters.

[Eliot Rosewater]

78. Like you said, only one or two candidates that I cant stomach. One for sure, dont know if the other

still running.

[NurseJackie]

79. I'll dance a happy jig when the candidate I despise the most decides that...

I'll dance a happy jig when the candidate I despise the most decides that he ("or she'') doesn't stand a chance and that his (or her) attacks on the Democratic party only serve to weaken the party with division and distrust and resentment. Those things lead to voter apathy and that just makes it easier for the GOP and Russia to steal elections.

[50 Shades Of Blue]

6. I'm undecided but she's in my top tier

[JDC]

14. Me too

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

61. Elizabeth is #2 on my list... could easily see her climbing to #1!!

It's pretty clear Elizabeth is also at the top of the list of Democratic candidates Dolt45 fears the most, judging by his frequent incendiary comments about her.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[shanny]

7. This is why she's my candidate.

Have (had) a Fox News-watching friend and entrepreneur who railed about regulations and Democrats and Bill Clinton (goes back a ways) putting him out of business...when in reality it was big corporations undercutting and sabotaging him at every turn. Happened more than once in the 90s and early 00s: he'd come up with a good idea/product; work his butt off to get it into the marketplace and then watch his business go under, swamped by someone else with deeper pockets and the ability to run faster with his ideas....

It was all the Democrats' fault though. I eventually gave up on him. Don't even know if he luvs him some tRump; last I heard (2014?) he was hoping to retire and move to Belize i.e. "get out of this effed up country."

[abqtommy]

8. If Elizabeth Warren is chosen as the Democratic candidate I'll vote for her with relish!

[earthshine]

9. I find her highly likeable and relatable. Electability is another issue ... for all our candidates.

Actually, I think most of our top-tier candidates (Biden, Sanders, Harris, Warren, Buttigieg, and more) are electable.

We just need to be united around the final choice.

In terms of likeability, I think I very much dislike Biden, personality-wise. It's been that way since a few years ago when I saw some videos of the Clarence Thomas nomination hearings with Anita Hill. I saw a man more concerned about showing everyone he was in charge than providing a fair and balanced hearing.

[FailureToCommunicate]

10. Yes, she has good policies, good leadership skills, perseverance, all that, however...

she is also missing that certain something that would make her a winning candidate for the rest of America. Call that "unlikable"

"unrelatable" or whatever the media is naming that quality, I reluctantly have to agree.

And I say this having worked closely on her campaign for here in Mass.

She's got good policies, and is a great Senator, and that's where we (all of us) need her to continue to be... 'fighting the good fight'

[Demsrule86]

67. We would also lose a Senate seat.

[Perseus]

12. I agree with you, she may be the best candidate but...

Let us not forget that the USA voters want someone who they can drink a beer with, who is not clever, that is why GW and the buffoon became presidents, aside of the cheating of course.

For some reason, many voters feel intimidated when someone as intelligent comes around. Maybe she need to adapt her vocabulary for the idiots to understand.

[appalachiablue]

13. Need a new trope. Warren is totally personable & relates to many Americans.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

60. I agree... some of the opposition against Elizabeth seems a bit sexist if you ask me...

But, she handles it with dignity and grace, as you would expect from someone with Elizabeth's considerable skills and smarts. Good for her!! Go get 'em!!


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[bloom]

28. Well, I would rather have a beer with Warren than any of the other candidates. n/t

[JudyM]

49. She's certainly in my top three for a happy hour, as well as for President.

I only wish that the swing voters were interested in intellect and ideas as much as DUers are. I would love for her to get a voice/prosody coach, that’d send her soaring in the polls, I think.

[John Fante]

39. Obama won two elections while oozing intelligence.

Warren's background is anti-elite. She's didn't have the open doors GWB and Shitstain had.

[BeyondGeography]

43. When she went to Kermit, WV

one of the women interviewed afterward said, “she’s just a plain ole country girl.” When people hear she grew up poor in Oklahoma and how that shaped her life and work it changes perceptions in a hurry.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

58. You can't be serious.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[msongs]

15. she is a lot more likeable than some who have similar policies. nt

[cannabis_flower]

24. She's definitely more likable than Trump!

[John Fante]

40. Syphillis is more likeable than Trump.

Warren doesn't come off as unlikable at all in interviews. I think unlikeable is subbing for "she's a woman" in a lot of these arguments.

[Kurt V.]

16. if you ever get the chance to see her in person, do it.

She's electric.

[Boomer]

19. I haven't had that pleasure

But every media appearance of hers is so inspiring.

My dream ticket would be Warren/Buttigieg -- I think they'd make a dynamite team.

[Kurt V.]

20. mine too! That's unbeatable

[BannonsLiver]

17. Warren is probably my favorite candidate in the race.

I love her energy and the willingness to put forward specific policy ideas even if I don’t agree with all of them. If my state’s primary was today there’d be a 50-50 chance I’d vote for her.

[rurallib]

18. My SIL did so. I told him to watch a videos of one of her speeches.

He called me back and said "she is the real thing!"

I am only undecided because Harris is also nearly as amazing.
If I were to pick right this moment it would be Warren.

[appalachiablue]

23. Warren is the real McCoy, wonderful mind & spirit. True American.

"Bailey" for First Dog!

[zentrum]

22. Heard her last night

.....and moved closer to making her my top pick. She's terrific.

[iscooterliberally]

25. I was living in Boston in 2012 and got to vote for her then.

Now I'm back in south Florida and I get to vote for her again! I think she would be an amazing president!

[mountain grammy]

26. Agree!

[Gothmog]

29. I personally really like Senator Warren

I am corporate attorney and so I like legal types like Warren. She is brilliant. I do not find her unlikable or unrelatable. My son and middle child are both lawyers and they really like her (my son loves the fact that she is a bankruptcy attorney) and my middle child's best friend (another lawyer) has already maxed out for Warren

I gave Warren a donation a while back because my middle child asked me to.

I do think that Biden is more electable but that does not mean that I dislike Warren

[BlueMTexpat]

32. She is one of my

top two preferences.

I will wait until after the first debate to make my choice.

What has also recently encouraged me about her candidacy is that my older son REALLY likes her. HIS top preference is Jay Inslee. But he also likes Warren. He also has a pretty good feel for trends in his generation and reported to me this week that, based on his anecdotal experience, which involves both blue and white collar workers among white and minority groups, Warren is trending favorably among that demographic.

Again, that's only anecdotal experience and it is from the DC metropolitan area, which is generally liberal.

But still ....

[xxqqqzme]

33. She has been my

first choice all along for the reasons you stated. I still hear people say she can't be elected and start ticking off her thoughtful, reasoned policies. She is my primary choice

[Hulk]

34. I would really hate to lose her in the Senate..😞

But her voice, vision and calculated plans to turn this country around are worth the gamble.

We really need to have a MASSIVE blue wave in the Senate. These fuckers managed to fight everything the last real President proposed, and giving them a majority turned them into a wrecking ball to the legislative

[patphil]

35. Elizabeth Warren would make a great president

But, I agree, I would hate to lose her in the Senate.
Do you think we can clone her?

Patrick Phillips

[pdsimdars]

36. I think the Democrats who talk about "electability" don't know what they are talking about.

Their basic discussion is that the candidate should be bland vanilla to be electable. But that has nothing to do with what ACTUALLY happens. It is the candidate who INSPIRES the voters who gets elected. They didn't feel Obama was electable. They don't have a clue but use that as the justification for their personal choice.

GO ELIZABETH. She is AWESOME! And gaining ground.
(and of course, it seems that every one of the Democratic candidates I see I love)

[Kurt V.]

38. +1

[ancianita]

37. Awesome, bold application of Law is electable. People's discomfort, not Warren, is the problem.

Voters need to forge past their doubts, prejudices and really listen, think about her plans, look at her record, make the good faith calculation and vote her that shot.

If any Democrat is better than Trump, and if she and Kamala can't make it to the presidency -- or even the primary(!) -- they are not the problem.

The problem is the disease of Patriarchy that's infected the body politic with a sick view of women leaders.

[maxsolomon]

41. 2 Qs: Can you cite an example of a Democrat who "bought into the idea"?

Is it legitimate to contemplate whether she would match up well against President Sociopath?

President Sociopath certainly spends a lot of time "thinking" about that, as evidenced by his attacks on her. He's been trying to take her out for 2 years now.

[markpkessinger]

51. I'm not referring to anyone here, if that's what you mean . . .

. . . But I have encountered various friends and acquaintances who very early on bought into the idea. So I just thought I would throw this out there.

[maxsolomon]

83. I always wonder who these broad-brush OPs are referring to.

As you said, I don't see that opinion stated on DU, but that's who you addressed your OP to by implication.

Same as the endless DU "M$Greedia" complaints. Why not say who specifically did express that opinion? X centrist apologist on Y new station said Z?

[customerserviceguy]

65. The Orange Menace

would far prefer to run against her than Joe Biden. He's already rented space in her head for free with the DNA test thing.

Of course, there's always that saying about, "Be careful for what you wish for."

[maxsolomon]

84. And his racist nickname for her is already grooved in the synapses of his rally mobs.

Its so ubiquitous that even DUers are coming up with clever comeback variants: "Brokeahontas".

What's his nickname for Harris? He's to scared to come up with one.

[customerserviceguy]

85. He would boost the candidacy

of anyone he mocked, thus he trotted out "Alfred E Neuman" for Pete Buttigieg. He thinks he can beat Pete, so he engages in name calling. I think he is wary of trying to boost name recognition for Sen. Harris.

[John Fante]

42. Elizabeth Warren is the best politician in America today.

She's a thinking person's populist.

[warmfeet]

44. She is my first choice.

I will of course, vote for the Democratic nominee, whomever that is. Sure would be nice if it turned out to be Elizabeth Warren.

[druidity33]

45. I met her once...

in a restaurant/bar in the town near me in western mass during her first campaign for Senate. At the time i was working as a dishwasher/prep cook and happened to be having my shift beer after work when she walked in with her entourage. She ordered a local IPA (actually ASKED for a local IPA... half pint). There were only maybe a dozen or so patrons in the place and everyone had a chance to ask her questions... totally impromptu and unscheduled. I remembered thinking she was fantastic. I still think so. She's been my Senator for awhile now and her office has always been responsive. Western Mass always kinda gets shafted in state politics though that's maybe a different argument that has little to do with Sen Warren.

[mcar]

46. They sure do

Also need to look at their motivation in labeling her as such.

[TreasonousBastard]

47. I never thought of her that way-- she's always been in my top three or four...

and I think the nation would love her-- she's brilliant, but doesn't talk down to you.

Bill Clinton was a smart guy with that talent of looking you straight in the eye and you knew he saw you. Warren's got that talent, and is a lot smarter.

Remember Carl Sagan? Warren is what Sagan would be if he went into politics.

[MasonDreams]

48. We need to get her some movie star combat training!!

In one week, maybe two, of comitted gruelling physical training. A REAL film of her (NO HELMET ) exiting an APC (armored personnel carrier) climbing on top (the slow moving APC) with a manual reloading 20Ga shotgun to shout three clay pigeons fairly rapidly.
OMG LANSLIDE VICTORIES!! Primary & general.
She already has the Senate experience and the academic chops. Her policy proposals are head and shoulders above the rest.

[Lefta Dissenter]

53. HUH?

Touring Pakistan and Afghanistan aren’t enough? My son, who was a diplomat in Pakistan at the time, was one of the “tour guides” for Senators Warren, McCain, Graham (ugh), and two or three others a few years ago. He accompanied them in Pakistani helicopters out to tour the battle-ravaged areas on the border. This was not play-acting. It was real.

I don’t think she actually needs to have slaughtered civilians in order to qualify to be Commander in Chief.

(Perhaps I missed some nuance in your post. If so, I apologize.)

[MasonDreams]

64. I apologise, I was just fantasizing.

Sen.Warren is awesome. I just want her to be such a superhero that drumpf would crumble when she walks into the room.

[Lefta Dissenter]

68. Sadly,

He wouldn’t recognize a superhero even if he were smothered in her cape.

(Yet, as long as you’re fantasizing, you can add that detail )

[radical noodle]

50. A woman who takes policy seriously

Sounds familiar. They said the same thing about Hillary.

[PatrickforO]

52. I like Warren a lot.

She gets it.

[applegrove]

54. Fran Lebowitz and Bill Maher both love Warren Said so on tonight's

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Real Time. I would love to see a Warren Harris ticket. We have such talent.

[dlk]

59. When Do We Ever Hear Male Candidates Described as Unlikable, Unrelatable or Unelectable?

Seriously, this misogyny is getting stale.

[The Mouth]

62. I'd be proud to vote for her

No problem

My only concern is that she's too smart for the job. Kind of like police departments, I fear the electorate isn't comfortable with anyone who appears too intelligent, but we can hope.
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She understands the economy- what's screwed up and what might fix it - as well as anyone who has ran for president in a century or more (Teddy R understood the macro problems and how to attack them).

[JI7]

63. Any Woman who has ambitions for higher positions, especially in areas mostly men held

will be considered unlikable and the usual bs.

[Hekate]

66. That's the usual misogynistic dismissal of ANY woman presidential candidate...

Those who make it need to "take another look" at themselves.

[Ferrets are Cool]

69. She is my 1st choice. nt

[Gumboot]

70. This poor exhausted rural guy...

... finds Liz very relatable and likeable.

Every time I hear her speak on TV news, I'm more and more impressed.

And I think she would steamroller Trump in a debate.

[Chalco]

71. She said something the other day that convinced me

that she was right about free college tuition.

She said that 100 years ago young people needed a high school diploma to get a job
and so high school was made a public right and deemed free for all. The same
rationale stands now. Everyone needs a college education to get a job, therefore,
it should be free.

[Pepsidog]

72. Warren is the best choice IMO. My only question is can she beat Dotard. Warren as VP with the

authority to pursue a very progressive agenda.

[kimbutgar]

73. I am really beginning to warm to her

I like her fight and willing to go among real people like she did in a West Virginia. I bet she got some local tv coverage. I could never imagine fat donnie getting that close to his cult members.

[Nitram]

74. I don't know if Warren is "unlikable," and I don't really care. I think anyone who fights for the

American people the way she is very likable, but it's irrelevant. As for "unrelatable" or "unelectable" I call bullshit! Any liberal must find her relatable. As for "unelectable," there's only now way to find out.

[TryLogic]

75. Wait until she debates. She was a champion debater in school.

I like her a lot.

[saidsimplesimon]

76. I agree.

"This is what leadership looks like, folks." Kamala Harris is also a woman who can win. imo

[Peacetrain]

77. Look up at the banner on the top of the page.. she has moved up to 11%

[democratisphere]

80. I agree. Leadership in the Senate.

[CentralMass]

81. She is great and i hope that her campaign gets more traction. I think that she will do great in the

debates.

[kentuck]

82. Agree