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highplainsdem

(48,984 posts)
Thu Jun 6, 2019, 01:41 PM Jun 2019

Warren, Harris, Klobuchar, O'Rourke, Booker & other Democratic candidates voted for bills

containing language prohibiting the use of federal funds for abortions.

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2019/06/06/guess-who-else-voted-against-federal-funding-for-abortion-443667


If you are or have been a member of Congress -- 15 people in this field -- and you’ve voted for big spending packages, there’s a pretty good chance that you’ve also voted for the amendment. OF COURSE, Biden is actively supporting it, and that’s a bit unique. But this language has been a part of a lot of funding bills and gotten plenty of votes from Democrats over the years.

AN EXAMPLE: ELIZABETH WARREN SAYS SHE DOESN’T LIKE THE HYDE AMENDMENT … Warren told MSNBC’s Chris Hayes on Wednesday night that “we do not pass laws that take away the freedom from the women who are most vulnerable.” Her team tweeted: “I will not support any effort to take rights away from women who are the most vulnerable. It’s time for Hyde to go. #WarrenTownHall”

… BUT, OF COURSE, SHE’S VOTED FOR IT! It doesn’t take long to find an example of Warren voting for the Hyde Amendment. Take this bill, which funded a big chunk of the government last year.

IT INCLUDED this language: “(a) None of the funds appropriated in this Act, and none of the funds in any trust fund to which funds are appropriated in this Act, shall be expended for any abortion. (b) None of the funds appropriated in this Act, and none of the funds in any trust fund to which funds are appropriated in this Act, shall be expended for health benefits coverage that includes coverage of abortion.”

WARREN voted for this bill twice. So did Michael Bennet, Cory Booker, Kirsten Gillibrand, Kamala Harris, Amy Klobuchar, Beto O’Rourke, Eric Swalwell and others. Bernie Sanders voted no. President DONALD TRUMP signed it into law.



It would be interesting to have a complete list of how many times the Democratic candidates for president voted for bills including this language.
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Warren, Harris, Klobuchar, O'Rourke, Booker & other Democratic candidates voted for bills (Original Post) highplainsdem Jun 2019 OP
K&R Peacetrain Jun 2019 #1
Joe Biden really doesn't have to worry about the right coming after him Green Line Jun 2019 #2
Say it ain't so! George II Jun 2019 #3
K&R Scurrilous Jun 2019 #4
You're not going find many who would stop funding for the country rgbecker Jun 2019 #5
Yep. n/t demmiblue Jun 2019 #8
It is dishonest to claim that voting for bills Progressive dog Jun 2019 #6
No, it's dishonest for the candidates attacking Biden on this to try to pretend they never voted highplainsdem Jun 2019 #11
That too Progressive dog Jun 2019 #12
that's stupid. ProfessorPlum Jun 2019 #7
Stop raining on the parade of fake outrage LibFarmer Jun 2019 #9
Umm... repealing the Hyde amendment was part of the Democratic platform in 2016. demmiblue Jun 2019 #10
I can remember Al Gore talking about this in 1988 when he ran for POTUS BannonsLiver Jun 2019 #13
What are their positions TODAY when Right Wing Radicals want to control my vagina? Indygram Jun 2019 #14
The right wing channels Russian wedge issues to attempt to split parties AND their candidates. ancianita Jun 2019 #15
 

Green Line

(1,123 posts)
2. Joe Biden really doesn't have to worry about the right coming after him
Thu Jun 6, 2019, 01:46 PM
Jun 2019

The left is doing the job for them.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
3. Say it ain't so!
Thu Jun 6, 2019, 01:47 PM
Jun 2019

As I posted elsewhere, the Hyde Amendment has been in place for 43 years through 11 presidential campaigns, this is the first time it's been a major issue. Had to find something for which to criticize Biden.

I've also pointed out that of the top six or seven candidates, only one hasn't gone even slightly negative about any others. That's Joe Biden.

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rgbecker

(4,831 posts)
5. You're not going find many who would stop funding for the country
Thu Jun 6, 2019, 01:49 PM
Jun 2019

because the Hyde amendment was added to the bill that only would pass with bi-partisan support. But that is a far cry from stating you support the amendment in June of 2019.

But I hope you get the list together just for the hell of it.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/447023-biden-2020-campaign-confirms-he-supports-controversial-abortion-rule-report

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Progressive dog

(6,904 posts)
6. It is dishonest to claim that voting for bills
Thu Jun 6, 2019, 02:10 PM
Jun 2019

to provide health care is a vote against abortion. Their would have still been no money for abortions if the bills had failed.
Blaming the Democratic candidates who chose to continue medicaid for millions should not be a winning strategy.

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highplainsdem

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11. No, it's dishonest for the candidates attacking Biden on this to try to pretend they never voted
Thu Jun 6, 2019, 02:30 PM
Jun 2019

for bills that contained this language.

I'd have more respect for them if they admitted they'd voted for such bills, but said they hoped the language could be dropped in the future. Of course, then they might be asked why they hadn't made a bigger issue of it in the past, before it was something they could weaponize to try to bring down a rival who's the frontrunner.

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ProfessorPlum

(11,257 posts)
7. that's stupid.
Thu Jun 6, 2019, 02:16 PM
Jun 2019

there are a million odious things in every funding bill, which get voted on and passed because that's how we fund the government.

Warren saying she will fight to get rid of it doesn't mean she wants the entire government to grind to a halt in the meantime.

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LibFarmer

(772 posts)
9. Stop raining on the parade of fake outrage
Thu Jun 6, 2019, 02:21 PM
Jun 2019

with facts.

The Hyde amendment was not an issue in 1992, 1996, 2000, 2004, 2008, 2012 and 2016

But .. it is suddenly a life and death issue for 2020.

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demmiblue

(36,854 posts)
10. Umm... repealing the Hyde amendment was part of the Democratic platform in 2016.
Thu Jun 6, 2019, 02:27 PM
Jun 2019
The 2016 platform marked the first time the Democratic platform had an explicit call to repeal the Hyde Amendment.[9] The platform states:

We believe unequivocally, like the majority of Americans, that every woman should have access to quality reproductive health care services, including safe and legal abortion—regardless of where she lives, how much money she makes, or how she is insured. We believe that reproductive health is core to women's, men's, and young people's health and well being. We will continue to stand up to Republican efforts to defund Planned Parenthood health centers, which provide critical health services to millions of people. We will continue to oppose—and seek to overturn—federal and state laws and policies that impede a woman's access to abortion, including by repealing the Hyde Amendment.[26]

Hillary Clinton advocated for a repeal of the Hyde Amendment throughout her 2016 Presidential campaign. She was quoted as saying, "Any right that requires you to take extraordinary measures to access it is no right at all" at a campaign rally in New Hampshire.[27] The Democratic Vice Presidential candidate Tim Kaine reportedly stood with his running mate on the issue, despite formerly having been a supporter of the Hyde Amendment.[28]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyde_Amendment


And, for some, it is a life or death issue.
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BannonsLiver

(16,387 posts)
13. I can remember Al Gore talking about this in 1988 when he ran for POTUS
Thu Jun 6, 2019, 02:57 PM
Jun 2019

I think the reason these stances have been adopted is not because it is part of some kooky anti women crusade, as some here would have us believe, but rather because federal funding for abortions has been unpopular with the electorate.

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Indygram

(2,113 posts)
14. What are their positions TODAY when Right Wing Radicals want to control my vagina?
Thu Jun 6, 2019, 04:25 PM
Jun 2019

eom

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ancianita

(36,058 posts)
15. The right wing channels Russian wedge issues to attempt to split parties AND their candidates.
Thu Jun 6, 2019, 06:06 PM
Jun 2019

This is false outrage.

Exactly feeding into Russian wedge issues fed into right wing media.

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