Nothing 'middle of the road' about leaving poor women & women of color unable to access abortion

[Celerity]

care when they need it. Especially right now. That position is unjust and discriminatory and endangers women and families.

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Link to tweet

For anyone who thinks this is a position of faith, here's Mario Cuomo's 1984 speech at Notre Dame arguing that as a pro-life Catholic individual, he was ethically obligated to govern in a pro-choice manner including getting rid of the discriminatory Hyde. http://archives.nd.edu/research/texts/cuomo.htm
3:25 PM - 5 Jun 2019

Link to tweet

https://www.aclu.org/blog/reproductive-freedom/abortion/its-time-go-hyde-amendment

[qazplm135]

1. I mean I'm not in favor of it...

but it's been the law for a long, long, long time...and now, all of a sudden, it's litmus test issue??

If Obama could magically run again, his last position was in favor of it last time I checked....should he be disqualified then?

[Celerity]

2. Obama campaigned as a person who was opposed to the Hyde Amendment.

It is 2019, a pro-Hyde stance is unacceptable.

[qazplm135]

3. pretty sure

it was still there when he was President.

[Celerity]

6. yes, he (and this was not a popular move at all)

caved in and signed a bill that, as part of a deal on healthcare, kept it in place. But he deffo campaigned against it. That stance (Biden's pro-Hyde open support) is not acceptable in 2019 IMHO.

Here is an article on his (Obama's) bill signing. I am sure there was a lot of discussion on it here at DU back in the day. There are no longer any significant numbers of pro-life (forced-birther) Democrats. The odious (anti-choice, anti-immigrant, anti-LGBTQ) Dan Lipinski, and 2 others, Collin Peterson of MN, and Henry Cuellar (who is also anti-immigrant and anti-LGBTQ) of TX, are all that remain, so they couldn't toss a spanner in the works like they did in 2010.




Obama signs order on abortion and healthcare.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-healthcare-obama/obama-signs-order-on-abortion-and-healthcare-idUSTRE62N61Y20100324

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Barack Obama signed an executive order on abortion on Wednesday that had won crucial votes for his healthcare bill, but disappointed women’s groups that have been among his most enthusiastic supporters.

The order is intended to ensure the new healthcare law will maintain a ban on the use of federal money to pay for abortions, except in cases of rape or incest, or if the life of a woman is in danger.

The White House announced on Sunday that Obama would sign the order in exchange for support for the massive healthcare overhaul bill from Democratic abortion rights opponents’ in the House of Representatives.

The support from the roughly dozen members of that group, led by Representative Bart Stupak, was essential to get the 216 votes necessary for the House to pass the bill.

Abortion rights advocates said they were furious about the signing, which they said gave extra weight to an anti-abortion measure known as the Hyde Amendment, but acknowledged they were unlikely to campaign against healthcare reform or most candidates who supported the bill.

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[qazplm135]

10. so what's worse

1. I support this
2. I don't support it (but I'm going to sign bills with it in them anyways).

Point is, it's a pretty new and weird line of no return all of a sudden.

[Celerity]

11. like I said, the pro-life Democratic caucus is almost non-existent now

I do not think Obama would have ever caved on that part of the bill if not for them back in 2010.

[qazplm135]

12. I don't think

following the Hyde Amendment makes you "pro-life"

[Celerity]

13. I never claimed that

[ancianita]

4. But poor women are not going to get it right NOW until Dems win both WH and Senate.

Right NOW there are still, according to polls highplains posted, who are pro-Hyde. They'll have to be conceded to until we get THE win.

Then they can be "brought along" into the 2019 "stance."

[Jose Garcia]

7. Do you have a source regarding Obama campaign in favor of eliminating the Hyde Amendment?

[Celerity]

9. it is in that link

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-healthcare-obama/obama-signs-order-on-abortion-and-healthcare-idUSTRE62N61Y20100324



I am sure there are hundreds of sources as well.

[ancianita]

5. It's not time YET.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

8. The minimization I've seen about Hyde in this forum over the past couple days has been deeply

dismaying. I don't understand why people are so afraid to talk about things that aren't great about their candidates; pretending they're THE BEST EVERRRRR doesn't help anyone and assuming that "this position is bad" = "I'M VOTING TRUMP" is a great way to silence people.