The Biden Campaign

[uawchild]

Biden just flip flopped flipped on the Hyde Amendment.

1. A week ago he suggested he might change his position from Supporting the Hyde Amendment.

2. Yesterday, he stated that he misheard the question and that he always has and still SUPPORTS the Hyde Amendment.

3. Today, he stated that he is now OPPOSING the Hyde Amendment because of recent Republican restrictions on Abortion Rights.


Three change of position in less than one week.

We are in the process of selecting our party's nominee for the 2020 Presidential Race.

Is this a "smart move to cut his loses" or does it destroy his credibility?

The choice is yours.

Personally, I think the wheels have officially come off the Biden campaign.

[samnsara]

1. oh ffs

[BannonsLiver]

4. Yeah as predicted the goalposts are being moved

It’s not really about the issue. It’s jyst about the politics.

[peggysue2]

14. Strange how that happens, eh?

All the moral outrage collapses. Like an ill-conceived souffle.

[cwydro]

55. Pretty obvious too.

Smh.

[Drunken Irishman]

2. lol

[jberryhill]

3. It's gonna be a long year

[BannonsLiver]

5. ...

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[Qutzupalotl]

6. dupe

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287142757

[Indygram]

7. I want authenticity

Not someone who changes their positions based on blowback. I prefer someone who does NOT need to be told right from wrong.

[emmaverybo]

13. How very righteous of you. Self righteous.

[ancianita]

17. You had it. His beliefs and actions based on them were spread out all over. He stuck to what he

believed.

The sign of a smart person is their ability to change their mind with the times.

I could say more about "authentic," but I'd rather not get into it.

[LanternWaste]

32. Intractable dogma is the wonderful alternative you've chosen.

(see what happens when we both deny nuance? we look less clever than we are...)

[BluesRunTheGame]

8. From his staff:

1. Return to normalcy.

2. Joe’s the most electable candidate.

3. Joe will be unavailable for the next few weeks. He’s busy.

[LanternWaste]

35. I like to tickle myself too.

Especially when there's nothing there, we must convince ourselves our humor is without fail... even if that means tickling ourselves, if no one else.

[emmaverybo]

9. Oh gawd. Stick a fork in him. He's done. He reversed a position on an issue that was not an

issue. My hair is on fire. His qualifications have all evaporated. But....ominously...THE CHOICE
IS YOURS.
Personally, I am sticking with the best qualified among any field I can think of and the most electable.

[ancianita]

18. What DU world have you been hiding out in? It's been nothing but THE issue here for days.

[emmaverybo]

21. DAYS? I must have been in the streaming and DVD section then. nt

[happy feet]

56. I'm with you.

Enough, the media wants Democrats to fight one smothered positions heard ago.

All I want to hear is each candidates' position on healthcare, climate change, women and minority rights, immigration, infrastructure, building up the middle class, getting corporations and the 1% to pay their fair share in taxes, in inequality, voter suppresion, ensuring fair elections, voting machines w/ a paper trail, citizens united, a living wage for work, ....I could go on and on

Not at all interested in yesterday's battles. Looking forward to digging us out of this swamp for a promising America for all.

[George II]

10. Are there any direct quotes of these three "flip flops"?

[tonedevil]

20. Sure...

The first is from National Review and while I understand the objections they have video and I think it was their person who asked the question that started all this.
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/joe-biden-flips-on-hyde-amendment/

It seems like only yesterday the Biden Campaign was clarifying that Biden had misunderstood the woman asking the question and he still supported the Hyde Amendment. Here is the Los Angeles Times reporting on it they have the quote and they talk about some of the other candidates reactions as well.
https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-2020-joe-biden-abortion-funding-20190605-story.html

Then about an hour ago CNN was reporting on their site that he was no longer supporting the Hyde Amendment.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/06/politics/biden-no-longer-supports-hyde-amendment/index.html

[George II]

24. In the first one he says it can't stay, in the third one he says he doesn't support it, but...

...the second one has no direct quotes from Biden. So, leaving that one out and there are no flip flops. As I suspected.

[tonedevil]

30. As I indicated...

the Biden campaign released the statement. When there is a statement from the campaign I assume they are reflecting the thoughts and potions of the candidate. That statement from the campaign was certainly interpreted by Planned Parenthood and NARAL as Biden supporting the Hyde Amendment and they were quite critical. Do you think the campaign didn't make the statement or do you think they were mistaken about his position?

[uawchild]

33. Facts are stubborn things

Thanks for your informative posts.

Cheers!

[LanternWaste]

38. Almost as stubborn a thing as refusing progress and change.

No doubt, the world would be better off if change and progress were equitable denied to all. Sitting in trees throwing poo at one's opponents was the apex of homo habilis. I feel your loss, and your fear in the face of progress.

Cheers, indeed.

[BannonsLiver]

40. God damn

It was worth kicking this petty and transparent OP for this spectacular response alone.

[LanternWaste]

36. I dig how you move the goalposts so deftly..

Tone deafness is cool.... hopefully, you'll get it put on a t-shirt with a really professional looking typeface to lend even more credibility.

[tonedevil]

37. Please explain...

what goalposts you think I moved.

[Scurrilous]

11. I like flip flops.

Wearing a pair now.

[Blue_true]

23. They are good for when things get hot.

Flip-flops and shorts and a thin teeshirt on non work days, required in my part of the country (Florida).

[sheshe2]

49. Me too!

Bought a new pair the other day with glittery silver things.

[yardwork]

12. Yeah, whatever.

[highplainsdem]

15. You're going to be so disappointed when he continues to be the frontrunner.

[BannonsLiver]

26. Still firing off OPs today

DESPERATE to keep it going. Pretty sad actually when people are so full of hate and more into slurring other candidates than boosting their own. Very transparent.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

16. Good. This is what the primary is for -- shaping candidates. It's important for party activists

to talk about what's important to them during primary season, because it often gets results.

[SeaDoo]

19. He imploded today but it was inevitable.

[Hekate]

46. I see you

[sheshe2]

52. How so?

Please explain.

PS Welcome to DU.

[cwydro]

57. Imploded? Oh please.

[Cha]

58. BULLFEATHERS

You wish.

[comradebillyboy]

22. Why cling to an untenable position? He decided to align

himself with the majority of Democrats. He needed to do that.

[BannonsLiver]

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[SidDithers]

41. Yup....

No posts from Nov 7 2016 to May 3 2019.

Sid

[BannonsLiver]

42. AH that IS interesting isn't it.

[sheshe2]

50. Lot of that happening these days.

[underthematrix]

27. I see the Hyde Amendment as an equal protection issue and that

it's violates a poor women's right to equal access to healthcare. I think this is how Biden is likely to frame this issue going forward. On 14th amendment grounds it wold be much easier to repeal in today's climate.

Strong candidates makes course corrections when necessary and I applaud him.

[still_one]

34. That is pretty much what he tweeted yesterday, that just because someone's zip code, they should not

be denied to healthcare, and why he won't support it.

The reality is that unless we gain control of Congress the Hyde Amendment has very little chance of being repealed

[underthematrix]

43. Yes. My remarks were based on that assumption.

[Mike Nelson]

28. I fully expected...

… the flip on this issue. However, I thought it would be more artful... his support was politically calculated, as was his reversal. Politicians are like that... he has time to get over this...

[Gothmog]

29. Joe Biden is the most electable candidate that the Democratic Party has available

[Mr.Bill]

59. Not to mention

he will make a great President.

[LanternWaste]

31. The important thing is that once we get a bone, we never let go of it...

Even if it turns out to be (as in this case) a plastic one manufactured by the dog food companies, filled with nitrates, corn and wheat gluten, and rendered fat.

Keep Purina a great company!!! That's your choice.

[stonecutter357]

39. let's go Joe !

It's time to move on !

[SouthernProgressive]

44. He appears to be running the best campaign out of all of the candidates.

He stepped in it on this one. Thinking that the "wheels have officially come off" is really kind of funny.

[NYMinute]

45. I have one simple question ...

"Where's the beef?"

[Hekate]

47. I see you

[emmaverybo]

54. Brilliant. nt

[katmondoo]

53. Are you a Sanders supporter?

[BannonsLiver]

60. You noticed that too eh?

Rarely a word about Booker who is at 1 percent or so in most polls.