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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

BooScout

(10,406 posts)
Sun Jun 9, 2019, 12:21 PM Jun 2019

People said he'd never be elected...

...and yet he was. Twice. Despite a million seemingly insurmountable obstacles and so much bullshit tossed at him from the Republicans and even members of our party...Barack Obama was elected to be our president not just once, but twice....and he thrived.

So to all of us out there saying this candidate is the only one who can win and that candidate doesn't stand a chance in beating Trump....all I can say is ....nothing is certain in politics. A race can turn in an instant. Not one of us has the ability to predict the future.

All I know for sure is that I'm voting for a Democrat in 2020. Every last candidate put forth by the Democratic Party is better than Trump on his best day. I'm not counting anyone out yet. I think the current field is excellent. Nothing is a done deal for a long while.

If the elections of the past few years have taught us nothing else....they've taught us that anything can happen.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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The Mouth

(3,150 posts)
1. Well said
Sun Jun 9, 2019, 12:24 PM
Jun 2019

It ain't over until it's over.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
2. All true. And also true is the fact that most of us thought that trump could NEVER be elected!
Sun Jun 9, 2019, 12:26 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BooScout

(10,406 posts)
3. Yep...and Brexit would never happen...
Sun Jun 9, 2019, 12:39 PM
Jun 2019

Nothing is a sure thing in politics.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

oldsoftie

(12,558 posts)
5. Almost everyone i knew in England was voting for Brexit. But I was sure trump would LOSE
Sun Jun 9, 2019, 12:54 PM
Jun 2019

i based that on some usually reliable GOP voters i knew who simply refused to vote for trump. They did not vote for Hillary, they just skipped that selection.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BooScout

(10,406 posts)
6. Funny ....almost everyone I know voted against it....
Sun Jun 9, 2019, 01:11 PM
Jun 2019

Except the xenophobes and the racists...then again....I try not to hang around them too much in the pub....combine alcohol and idiots in my face and I don't do so well.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
4. It may turn out to be possible for a number of the Dem candidates to win a popular vote.
Sun Jun 9, 2019, 12:40 PM
Jun 2019

However, a Dem candidate capable of getting the most popular votes, would provide more safety to override putin, Electoral College, 'con voter frauds, the unexpected.

Also, maximum control of House and Senate, would enable the best possible cleanups of the traitortrump travesties.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LibFarmer

(772 posts)
7. I'd be happy with any candidate
Sun Jun 9, 2019, 01:41 PM
Jun 2019

who has not run in 2016 to be the nominee.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BannonsLiver

(16,398 posts)
8. It's too bad there are no Obama's in this race
Sun Jun 9, 2019, 02:31 PM
Jun 2019

No one even comes close. That being said there are some great candidates who can beat Fat Donny.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

keithbvadu2

(36,829 posts)
9. Ideological purity shot down Hillary. Bernie was another self-important Ralph Nader.
Sun Jun 9, 2019, 03:16 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

progressoid

(49,991 posts)
12. That's a bit facile.
Mon Jun 10, 2019, 02:45 PM
Jun 2019

Even Hillary knows it was more complicated than that. It's in her book.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

brer cat

(24,578 posts)
10. Well said.
Sun Jun 9, 2019, 06:09 PM
Jun 2019

It is way too early to rule out candidates.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Irishxs

(622 posts)
13. Agree, agree, agree.
Mon Jun 10, 2019, 09:27 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
11. That's not how I remember it.
Mon Jun 10, 2019, 01:13 PM
Jun 2019

To my recollection, ever since he spoke at the 2004 Democratic Convention, "Presidential candidate" had been bandied about. When he ran, not many on the left thought there would be a problem with him getting elected.

The doubts, laughs, and criticism came from the right. Being racist, all they could see was his race. Then came the crazy birther theory and other theories having to do with his father.

No one is ever sure that a candidate can win. But Democrats coalesced behind him with nary a doubt about his exceptionalism and savvy political skills, and that if a Democrat were going to be elected at all, Obama would be. He was special. Everyone could see it, even if they disliked him.

Obama also wasn't far left. He was a pretty mainstream Democrat, as far as his positions on issues went, on most issues (but not all). HE was unusual, but his positions were not. Except for that health care reform act. He got behind doing something exceptional.

The first time I saw him was giving the speech at the 2004 Democratic Convention. I would say that somewhere in my mind, his race registered with me. But I can't say I noticed it much, and it definitely didn't matter. He, the person, was electrifying. I never gave his race much thought throughout the campaign. Most other Democrats seemed to be in agreement that he was exceptional, charismatic, brilliant, funny, attractive, and all the rest...with race and age being at the bottom of the list.

There's no one like that among the 23 current candidates, IMO.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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