Democratic Primaries
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Morning Joe talking today about Biden being Catholic and thats why he struggles with the abortion question. Joe Scarborough said if Joe Biden moves toward abortion on demand with no restrictions that it would hurt him in the general election with Catholics.
Im not so sure about that.
We now have 5 members of SCOTUS that are Catholic.
23% of Americans identify as Catholic.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/13/us/no-religion-largest-group-first-time-usa-trnd/index.html
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oldsoftie
(12,558 posts)I think he turned out just fine; although i would have loved to see what he would have been able to accomplish with a 2nd term
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
no_hypocrisy
(46,130 posts)It's his positions on behalf of the country, his positions on preserving the fundamental rights of Americans that count, not his personal beliefs.
I believe Joe Biden can quarantine his personal beliefs from public policy.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Funtatlaguy
(10,879 posts)further clarify where and how he has evolved on his abortion positions.
They said that other Dems will hit him hard on it in the debate.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)No question, Joe's debate advisors should have him well prepared.
Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
bearsfootball516
(6,377 posts)I know I'm not representative of everyone, but I know there are a large amount of pro-choice Catholics out there.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Wounded Bear
(58,670 posts)who don't necessarily think their personal beliefs should be forced on others thru legislation.
Oh, and most Catholics are more 'Christian' than the typical Evangelical, it would seem.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Deb
(3,742 posts)or at least they are supposed to.
Using abortion as a tool to influence politics has a way of backfiring especially with women who are sick of being used as pawns.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Funtatlaguy
(10,879 posts)He said that even though most Americans are pro choice, they still want some restrictions.
He said that any Democrat including Biden that dont include some abortion restrictions will have trouble in Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Florida with anti choice Catholics and Evangelicals.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
thesquanderer
(11,990 posts)and those restrictions are likely enough for most Americans (i.e. the viability test).
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Shrek
(3,981 posts)I believe the viability standard came later in Planned Parenthood v. Casey.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Wounded Bear
(58,670 posts)which probably doesn't align well with a specific number of weeks or months of gestation.
Certainly, heartbeat is a poor indicator to hang restrictions on.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Peacetrain
(22,877 posts)But not impose it on anyone else.. Only those on the edges.. think that it is okay to impose their personal belief systems on others who are not part of that same community..
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JI7
(89,252 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Everyone has the right to choose a religious position. I care about how politicians vote and what they say they'll support or oppose, not how they pray or if they pray.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SharonClark
(10,014 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Funtatlaguy
(10,879 posts)already baked into the pie. A D to them doesnt mean Democrat. It means Devil 👿. They just will not vote for a Democrat.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Turin_C3PO
(14,004 posts)Its not like hes going to let the Catholic Church write policy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)If the bishop in his diocese were to excommunicate him, it would be a big story. Yes, millions of nominal Catholics would be outraged at what they perceived was their church's meddling in our election, but millions would take it seriously.
The last time I attended Catholic services was in the early 1980's, and I saw a lot of Catholics gravitating to Reagan during that time, and I lived about an hour north of Seattle. I have no idea how they lean these days.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden