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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Mon Jun 10, 2019, 12:43 PM Jun 2019

How is Joe faring?

I just want to beat Trump and put forward our strongest candidate. All other considerations are subsidiary. The debates will show if he still has his fastball. I hope so.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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How is Joe faring? (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2019 OP
Well, so far he's leading the polling by double digits nationally. MineralMan Jun 2019 #1
Thankfully, spellcheck did not try to edit that headline. NT mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2019 #2
Fearing? DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2019 #3
Noooooo. NT mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2019 #5
Farting? Funtatlaguy Jun 2019 #11
Yep. That's how I read it the first time. Disclaimer: I have nothing against Joe Biden. mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2019 #14
Everybody farts. My dog is awesome at it. 😷 Funtatlaguy Jun 2019 #15
I just watched a report on CNN True Dough Jun 2019 #4
Mayor Pete is okay. I saw him on Desus and Mero. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2019 #6
We will beat Trump uawchild Jun 2019 #7
That's all that matters to me. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2019 #9
What is a "modest level" of extreme enthusiasm? cwydro Jun 2019 #8
Apparently it's a question they asked caucus-goers True Dough Jun 2019 #12
I gotcha. cwydro Jun 2019 #18
"at least in Iowa, Biden is still the front-runner" left-of-center2012 Jun 2019 #16
Although I agree that younger voters are important because yes, their numbers can help put a Dem emmaverybo Jun 2019 #21
He's playing it safe right now. We'll have to wait and see if that's comradebillyboy Jun 2019 #10
We will have to wait and see if that is the strategy he maintains. He has not always played for emmaverybo Jun 2019 #22
Life's Been Good aikoaiko Jun 2019 #13
We'll know more customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #17
Lol, no kidding! cwydro Jun 2019 #19
Yes, all Joe had to do customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #20
 

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
1. Well, so far he's leading the polling by double digits nationally.
Mon Jun 10, 2019, 12:45 PM
Jun 2019

In a field of 24, that's significant. So, I'd say he's doing OK at the moment.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,511 posts)
2. Thankfully, spellcheck did not try to edit that headline. NT
Mon Jun 10, 2019, 12:46 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
3. Fearing?
Mon Jun 10, 2019, 12:50 PM
Jun 2019

He seems fearing to Trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,511 posts)
14. Yep. That's how I read it the first time. Disclaimer: I have nothing against Joe Biden.
Mon Jun 10, 2019, 01:08 PM
Jun 2019

It's spellcheck that I watch closely.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Funtatlaguy

(10,879 posts)
15. Everybody farts. My dog is awesome at it. 😷
Mon Jun 10, 2019, 01:11 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

True Dough

(17,311 posts)
4. I just watched a report on CNN
Mon Jun 10, 2019, 12:50 PM
Jun 2019

that showed likely Iowa caucus-goers were polled and indicated only a modest level of "extreme enthusiasm" for Biden (29 per cent, I believe) and younger voters had Biden in 4th place. It was voters 65 and older who had him as the overwhelming favorite.

Anyway, all this to say that, at least in Iowa, Biden is still the front-runner overall but he's not going to be able to coast at all. Mistakes or even being strongly outshone during the debates could make a serious dent in his early reign at the top.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
6. Mayor Pete is okay. I saw him on Desus and Mero.
Mon Jun 10, 2019, 12:51 PM
Jun 2019

I just want to beat Orange Man.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

uawchild

(2,208 posts)
7. We will beat Trump
Mon Jun 10, 2019, 12:53 PM
Jun 2019

We have a very deep bench.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
9. That's all that matters to me.
Mon Jun 10, 2019, 12:54 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
8. What is a "modest level" of extreme enthusiasm?
Mon Jun 10, 2019, 12:54 PM
Jun 2019

That hits me funny for some reason.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

True Dough

(17,311 posts)
12. Apparently it's a question they asked caucus-goers
Mon Jun 10, 2019, 01:01 PM
Jun 2019

Would you describe yourself as "extremely enthusiastic" about the candidate you support? And then probably a series of other options indicating lesser levels of enthusiasm.

It was 29% of Biden supporters who opted to describe their support for him as extremely enthusiastic. Among the other candidates it was 39%.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
18. I gotcha.
Mon Jun 10, 2019, 01:44 PM
Jun 2019

That makes sense.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
16. "at least in Iowa, Biden is still the front-runner"
Mon Jun 10, 2019, 01:28 PM
Jun 2019

Biden is leading polls in every state.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
21. Although I agree that younger voters are important because yes, their numbers can help put a Dem
Mon Jun 10, 2019, 01:51 PM
Jun 2019

over, but more because we want them getting into the process as citizens, baby boomers represent
significant parts of the map, and strong numbers.
Also agree Biden can not coast to victory.
Enthusiasm builds over time and will attach to any candidate who wins the primaries as it will be driven by urgency. Most who won the midterms were not charismatic or progressive. Nonetheless, enthusiasm, excitement, urgency motivated a blue tide,
I remember talking to my students at a liberal arts college in a liberal urban environment about Obama. For some time they did not identify with him or care about the historic significance of his
running and then his nomination, despite that he represented a multi-cultural and bi-racial life experience/background as they did, and was young.
In time, with exposure, they began to notice.
Admittedly, Obama’s campaign was a strategic phenomenon. I do not expect it to be matched by any of the current candidates. He made a strong appeal through surrogates to the youth vote, as just one of the many constituencies and communities he focused on.
Still, it’s not easy to read what personalities and approaches, people, young and old, will find inspiring. Sometimes it’s rock and roll and sometimes it’s standards.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

comradebillyboy

(10,155 posts)
10. He's playing it safe right now. We'll have to wait and see if that's
Mon Jun 10, 2019, 12:55 PM
Jun 2019

a viable longer term strategy.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
22. We will have to wait and see if that is the strategy he maintains. He has not always played for
Mon Jun 10, 2019, 01:54 PM
Jun 2019

safety. I expect him to fight hard once he fully enters the arena.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
17. We'll know more
Mon Jun 10, 2019, 01:32 PM
Jun 2019

after the first debate. Joe may get lucky enough not to draw Pete Buttigieg as a direct opponent in the first one, but he's bound to face at least one female candidate who will go after him hard. The only practice Joe has debating a woman is Sarah Palin, and that was a cakewalk in comparison.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
19. Lol, no kidding!
Mon Jun 10, 2019, 01:46 PM
Jun 2019

I hadn’t thought about that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
20. Yes, all Joe had to do
Mon Jun 10, 2019, 01:49 PM
Jun 2019

in 2008 was not look mean to some nitwit spouting right-wing talking points. He'll have a lot more serious work to do with a woman who comes at him from the left side. This Hyde Amendment thing is not over yet.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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