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Congratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
Trump's latest rage-threat gives Democrats a big opening. One just took it.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/06/10/trumps-latest-rage-threat-gives-democrats-big-opening-one-just-took-it/?utm_term=.ad6d9060f60dPresident Trump has spent the last half day frantically retweeting his propagandists, who are pushing the absurd deception that Trumps new deal with Mexico is a massive and historic victory. In reality, the agreement which averts Trumps threatened tariffs consisted mostly of things Mexico already agreed to months ago.
Trump is in a rage over this he repeatedly fumed at the New York Times for reporting it and now hes amplifying the notion that he won enormous concessions from Mexico by claiming that Mexico has secretly agreed to another major provision that will be revealed at some unspecified future time.
This has come packaged with a threat: Trump just tweeted that if Mexico does not soon take formal steps to ratify that secret provision, Tariffs will be reinstated!
But this threat gives Democrats a big opening to grab control of this debate both on the immigration and trade fronts, because this story intertwines the two, and more broadly to better engage with the colossal failures of Trumps nationalism.
The two main provisions of the deal that Trump reached with Mexico are an expansion of a program in which asylum seekers trying to enter the United States wait in Mexico; and increased deployment of Mexicos national guard to disrupt smuggling networks and try to stop migrants from Central America from reaching the southern border.
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Trump's latest rage-threat gives Democrats a big opening. One just took it. (Original Post)
Celerity
Jun 2019
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Skittles
(153,169 posts)1. Beto's response is excellent
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Arkansas Granny
(31,518 posts)2. Can you repeat his response or link to it?
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(43,416 posts)4. here
Beto ORourkes good answer
Asked on ABCs This Week to comment on Trumps Mexico mess, former Texas congressman and 2020 Democratic presidential candidate Beto ORourke offered an answer thats worth watching in full:
Asked on ABCs This Week to comment on Trumps Mexico mess, former Texas congressman and 2020 Democratic presidential candidate Beto ORourke offered an answer thats worth watching in full:
Link to tweet
Note that ORourke used this situation as a window into a much broader indictment of Trumps nationalist agenda. He stressed that the threat of tariffs against Mexico is only serving to jeopardize our most important trading relationship; that this places at risk markets that our farmers have cultivated; and that they are already taking a beating from Trumps trade wars with China.
Importantly, ORourke made the case that precisely the opposite approach strengthened, reality-based international integration is the answer both on trade and on immigration. ORourke called for trade arrangements in farmers and workers interests and for increased investments in Central America to ensure that no family has to make that 2,000-mile journey.
Importantly, ORourke made the case that precisely the opposite approach strengthened, reality-based international integration is the answer both on trade and on immigration. ORourke called for trade arrangements in farmers and workers interests and for increased investments in Central America to ensure that no family has to make that 2,000-mile journey.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skittles
(153,169 posts)6. Beto really REALLY understands the issue
and by the way, what would Jesus do? EXACTLY THIS.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Marcuse
(7,488 posts)3. This is just a rerun of a TV episode from 2017. "Trump plays hardball with Mexico"
We cannot say that anymore because if you are going to say that Mexico is not going to pay for the wall, then I do not want to meet with you guys anymore because I cannot live with that. I am willing to say that we will work it out, but that means it will come out in the wash and that is okay. But you cannot say anymore that the United States is going to pay for the wall. I am just going to say that we are working it out. Believe it or not, this is the least important thing that we are talking about, but politically this might be the most important talk about. But in terms of dollars or pesos it is the least important thing. I know how to build very inexpensively, so it will be much lower than these numbers I am being presented with, and it will be a better wall and it will look nice. And it will do the job.
[link:https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/politics/australia-mexico-transcripts/|
[link:https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/politics/australia-mexico-transcripts/|
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Turbineguy
(37,343 posts)5. Some wanker on CNBC this morning said
Trump had played the Mexicans "brilliantly".
It wasn't Putin.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden