Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumTrump and Biden Are Just Grumpy Old Men
Frank RichYes, for both. I have no idea who is going to be the Democratic nominee, but I dont think its going to be Biden. One of the several reasons is that by focusing solely on Trump 17 months before Election Day and refusing to engage with any of his Democratic opponents, he is disrespecting not just those opponents but the majority of voters in his own party. He looked presumptuous when he blew off an Iowa event with 19 other Democratic candidates over the weekend, no matter how commendable his excuse (a grandchilds high-school graduation). In a party where every major politician (and presidential candidate) is fiercely anti-Trump, Biden isnt even the most clever at goading him. Nancy Pelosi is the gold standard, with Pete Buttigieg and Elizabeth Warren coming up strong.
Biden leads in the polls but not by so much so that he can act like Trumps anointed opponent. As James Hohmann of the Washington Post pointed out, in the new Des Moines Register poll, where Bidens trajectory has started to drop, he leads the Democratic field by being the first choice of 24 percent of Iowas likely Democratic caucusgoers as opposed to 57 percent for Clinton in the same poll four years ago. Only 29 percent of his supporters are extremely enthusiastic about him. Bidens recent whiplash reversal on his decades-long support for the Hyde Amendment restricting abortion rights suggests that there will be further hits on that enthusiasm to come. It wasnt just the politically clumsy flip-flopping that was the problem, but the lack of transparency about how it happened. His stance is I am anti-Trump gladiator No. 1, so what else do you need to know?
As for Trump, he is making the mistake of refighting the last war. He is lazy, and by assuming that hell face Biden, an Establishment party figure, hes betting that he can recycle his Jeb BushHillary Clinton playbook from four years ago. Indeed, hes already smearing Bidens energy (hes even slower than he used to be) and health (also a big Fox News smear campaign), as he did, respectively, with those 2016 opponents. That he was so at a loss for a nickname for Buttigieg that he likened him to Alfred E. Neuman is an indicator of how his cultural antennae have atrophied with age since his prime-time heyday in The Apprentice. Unless hes facing a fellow septuagenarian hes likely to be off his very limited game. Presidents are always isolated from reality in the White House bubble but none ever to the degree of Trump. Mar-a-Lago is his idea of getting out among the folks.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
msongs
(67,462 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)Ageist and stupid column.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)but it does mention the Hyde Amendment flip-flop. If Joe Biden does any more of these, then it will call into question if he really has core values. Can Joe be flip-flopped back when having to deal with Republicans in Congress?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,799 posts)Rich acts like he's not well informed on what's going on.. just wants to make a "grumpy old men" column.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tarheel_Dem
(31,244 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
FloridaBlues
(4,009 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brooklynite
(94,792 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
elleng
(131,197 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
mobeau69
(11,162 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
cwydro
(51,308 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brooklynite
(94,792 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JI7
(89,279 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BannonsLiver
(16,508 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
trueblue2007
(17,242 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,809 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PatSeg
(47,649 posts)I can't recall Joe ever coming across as grumpy. Even during some of his darkest moments, he maintained a loving and optimistic attitude. During times of great loss, he was quick to reach out to others who were suffering. "Grumpy" was certainly a poor choice of words.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)race, he will always be an accomplished and experienced voice for reason. It is wonderful that he is
the candidate making the case against Trump. As a lifelong liberal, and a known bipartisan, he appeals to people from all walks of life and demographics; people of various political persuasions listen to him with respect.
They cant label him a hater, a bitter partisan hack.
They cant lob a great many of the usual insults they throw up against Trump critics.
And since hes currently the front-runner, he has the audience numbers tuned in.
If he achieves nothing else, reaching a larger audience to warn that Trump is an existential threat
should be considered a public service.
The time is now, not after the primaries. It is now when the House is working diligently to educate
the public about Trumps obstruction and to investigate further his connection to Russia that we need to unite voters on what large numbers can agree on: Trump must go.
And Trump recognizes Bidens unique position from which to hasten his own political demise.
Many people love Biden. No one loves Trump but hating and hateful fanatics. The rest stick to the party or fear ours.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blue neen
(12,334 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
progressoid
(50,000 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)is a doctor. He might not know, however, about some of the newer studies on the potentially very positive ways older brains can work on problems.
Mentally and physically fit seniors are not creaky. Aging is not an illness.
And no, Trump is not in the throes of dementia. Hes just a sadistic, sociopathic crook having a laugh at our expense.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)She seems pretty sharp.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Rebl2
(13,575 posts)certainly not a grumpy old man. I find him to be a kind man that loves his family and puts them first. Whats grumpy about that?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)Biden is branding himself as the anti-Trump with policy and even the entire GOP taking a back seat. If you think that's enough, then Biden's your candidate. But what if primary voters are looking for something more?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)I wish his detractors would pick one dwarf moniker and stick with it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,809 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Turin_C3PO
(14,087 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
4now
(1,596 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cwydro
(51,308 posts)I cant even imagine that adjective for him.
Theres another candidate that might fit however...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JI7
(89,279 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,799 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(49,044 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)For those who like to hate on Maher.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,508 posts)Bill has complained about the ageism in the media with regard to both sanders and Biden. I watched the exchange last week.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
treestar
(82,383 posts)a grumpy old man?
Nothing good to say about Hickenlooper. Guess he can't win unless the other candidates are proven to be evil.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bhkylib
(26 posts)That's why his favorability numbers are so high.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Yeah, he's struggling w/a nickname for Biden. "Sleepy Biden" or "Low Energy Biden" doesn't work, because Biden is the opposite of those things, unlike Jeb Bush, who is a lower key, slower movement type person. Biden is clearly more energetic and awake than Trump.
The Alfred E. Newman name was funny, because that is so outdated. Trump is living in a different era.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided