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mtnsnake

(22,236 posts)
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 08:28 PM Jun 2019

Polls? Really? Until we are well into the debates, all these polls are little more than diddly squat

You might think that this is all about Joe Biden because of his commanding lead in the polls, but it is not all about him. In all honesty, I think he is at the biggest disadvantage of anyone because his poll numbers started out way too high, way too early on.

I think the only thing that the polls reflect right now is the popularity of the few candidates who have been highlighted by the mainstream media so far. The more that the 4 or 5 front-runners are highlighted, the more name recognition they get, and the more they're apt to get another bump in the polls from the additional exposure, followed by even more name recognition as their numbers rise. Then the ones at the bottom who need the name recognition the most don't get the exposure they deserve because who wants to hear from someone who is only polling at 3 or 4 percent, right? Many of the people being polled probably haven't even heard of half of our candidates. Worse than that, half the people being polled might not even vote in the Primary.

Only until we are heavily into the campaign and into the debates will the voters get to see and hear the other candidates, many who will suprise the viewers by how talented they are. Only until then will the voters be able to make a much better judgment call about who they like best. For all we know, someone like Steve Bullock, who didn't even qualify for the first debate, could end up blowing everyone else out of the water if he ever gets an equal opportunity to be heard. It isn't far fetched to think it could happen. OTOH, maybe Joe Biden will prove me wrong and continue topping out the numbers right until the end, but I doubt it.

Once we're a few weeks away from the election, the polls might have a little meaning. Maybe. At this point, though, I think the only possible significance that we might get from any poll is whether or not someone's numbers are rising or falling drastically. Even then, it all depends on whether or not the numbers are being manipulated by the pollsters own methodology or not, which I suspect is often the case. Other than that, any projections from any Democratic Primary polls out there right now are about as likely to occur as a 10 day weather forecast being accurate on days 9 and 10. JMO of course.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Polls? Really? Until we are well into the debates, all these polls are little more than diddly squat (Original Post) mtnsnake Jun 2019 OP
Yup jberryhill Jun 2019 #1
yes. wait till the normies get interested Kurt V. Jun 2019 #2
My opinion of the polls? sheshe2 Jun 2019 #3
I can hardly wait for the debates... VarryOn Jun 2019 #4
Same here. We have so many talented candidates mtnsnake Jun 2019 #5
I want to see the list whittled down to 4. Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #10
Agree. And quite franky, this whole process shouldn't start... SMC22307 Jun 2019 #6
really ? There are 16 or 17 candidates that will be gone reguardless of debates beachbum bob Jun 2019 #7
The horse race does not interest me, especially this early in the campaign Martin Eden Jun 2019 #8
even the debates wont matter that much unless one does very horribly JI7 Jun 2019 #9
No, they're not brooklynite Jun 2019 #11
 

Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
2. yes. wait till the normies get interested
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 08:35 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

sheshe2

(83,791 posts)
3. My opinion of the polls?
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 08:36 PM
Jun 2019

People are listening and that is a wonderful thing.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

VarryOn

(2,343 posts)
4. I can hardly wait for the debates...
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 09:00 PM
Jun 2019

While I've enjoyed watching and listening to our deep bench, I'm ready to see it narrow down to the candidates who have a tuely plausible chance. I'd like to see us down to 7 or 8 who are super-strong, exciting and inspiring who repectfully challenge each other and make them even stronger in the general.



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mtnsnake

(22,236 posts)
5. Same here. We have so many talented candidates
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 09:11 PM
Jun 2019

and once the general public gets to hear and see them in the debates and elsewhere in the campaign, I think they will be incredibly impressed with how much smarter and more honest that Democrats are in comparison to the corrupt assholes on the other side of the aisle.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
10. I want to see the list whittled down to 4.
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 07:15 AM
Jun 2019

I'm guessing it'll be Biden, Sanders, Warren, and either Harris or Buttegieg. But we'll see.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
6. Agree. And quite franky, this whole process shouldn't start...
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 09:22 PM
Jun 2019

until at least September. It's waaaaay too early.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
7. really ? There are 16 or 17 candidates that will be gone reguardless of debates
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 10:37 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Martin Eden

(12,870 posts)
8. The horse race does not interest me, especially this early in the campaign
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 06:43 AM
Jun 2019

Democrats should be diving deep into issues, ideas, and policies.

Discuss what our government needs to be doing, then see which candidates emerge as the best leaders to carry that vision forward.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

JI7

(89,252 posts)
9. even the debates wont matter that much unless one does very horribly
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 06:46 AM
Jun 2019

it will be about the ground campaign.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

brooklynite

(94,598 posts)
11. No, they're not
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 07:59 AM
Jun 2019

It's fair to say that the actual vote count will likely have little comparison to today's polling, but the polling range today is an indicator of which candidates are serious and which are not. If you're polling 1-5% (including my candidate) you're very unlikely to work your way up into the top tier where you can then work to improve your vote count.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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