Team Trump Admits Poll Showed Biden Crushing Him -- But Insists Everything's Changed

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"After heated denials from President Donald Trump, his campaign this week finally admitted that yes, their internal March polling did show former Vice President Joe Biden handily beating the President in key battleground states. But, they insist, Trump has made huge gains since then.

Trump campaign manager Brad Parscale told ABC News that the polls reported on last month were “ancient.”

“Since then, we have seen huge swings in the President’s favor across the 17 states we have polled, based on the policies now espoused by the Democrats,” he said. “For example, the plan to provide free health care to illegal immigrants results in an 18-point swing toward President Trump.”

Trump had been angrily punching back at anyone who mentions the poll to him, including George Stephanopoulos during a recent interview when the President insisted that “those polls don’t exist.” As recently as Friday morning, Trump told the “Fox and Friends” hosts that polls showing him trailing Biden were “incorrect.”

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-biden-poll-2020

[stonecutter357]

1. K&R

[redstatebluegirl]

2. Polls are useless, as they were in the final weeks of 2016.

They showed Secretary Clinton winning big, and see what happened. I don't think people are honest about voting for the Orange menace. They know it is not popular with their friends so they aren't honest when asked by pollsters. The smartest thing we can do is ignore the polls and go under the assumption that we are 10 points behind.

[TwilightZone]

7. "They showed Secretary Clinton winning big"

Not at the end. 538 had Trump's chance of winning as high as 35% in the last week, up from 14% a couple weeks prior. The polls in the last two weeks were definitely trending toward Trump, though it was 70/30 at the end.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

As for assuming we're ten points behind, I agree. We need to win by enough that it's not in question.

[Cha]

3. F****** Useless Wanker.

[forgotmylogin]

4. "It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother...

... for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week [...] Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it. [...] The eyeless creature at the other table swallowed it fanatically. passionately, with a furious desire to track down, denounce, and vaporize anyone who should suggest that last week the ration had been thirty grams."

/Orwell

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[left-of-center2012]

6. Trump has made huge gains since then.

Yep.

Trump told us he charmed Queen Elizabeth,
and gave the best speech in Europe ever given by a US president.

[nitpicker]

8. Link to Think Progress

https://thinkprogress.org/the-internal-poll-that-donald-trump-said-didnt-exist-was-just-leaked-1bedd00413f1/

The internal poll that Donald Trump said didn’t exist was just leaked

And surprise! The numbers are just as bad for Trump as everyone thought.

Adam Peck  Jun 14, 2019, 4:20 pm

ABC News on Friday published the results of an internal poll conducted by President Donald Trump’s reelection campaign in March, a survey that Trump himself denied even existed.

The poll found Trump trailing Joe Biden by huge margins in states he carried in 2016, including Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. In Texas, which has voted for Republican presidents by wide margins for the last 43 years, Trump holds just a two point edge against the former vice president.

The existence of the poll and its damning findings were first reported by the New York Times earlier this week. It aligns closely with several independent surveys which have consistently found Trump trailing virtually every Democratic presidential contender in head-to-head matchups, findings which Trump himself has repeatedly denied. He also suggested the very existence of internal polling was a fabrication, and when that was proven to be a lie, instructed his staff to deny the results.
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In Florida, the Trump campaign’s internal poll shows him losing to Biden by seven points. In Wisconsin, the margin is 10 points. In Pennsylvania, it’s 16. Trump won all three states in 2016, and desperately needs all of them in order to win reelection in 2020.
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