**BRAND SPANKING NEW EARLY PRIMARY POLL** Teflon Joe 43% Bernie 21% Elizabeth 9%

[DemocratSinceBirth]

https://morningconsult.com/2020-democratic-primary/

[George II]

1. 21 + 9 is less than 43!!!

[JI7]

2. the other candidates need to start ignoring him

and talking about themselves. the attacks are also backfiring .

[Cha]

36. It would seem so.

[Fla Dem]

51. Totally, they need to make it about themselves and attack Trump.

We do not need to have a circular firing squad within the Democratic Primary. With so many candidates, they each have to get their personality across, their positions and stick a few pins in the Trump blimp. No time for spearfishing other Dem candidates.

[democratisphere]

3. Your teflon is in the wrong place.

Teflon is for don the con drumpf. Quit undermining Joe Biden, the clear Democratic front runner.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. Why so serious?

[democratisphere]

8. The undermining of the front runner is serious. Getting drumpf out of the Oval Office is serious.

We seriously don't need a repeat of anything like 2016. Get serious!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

9. I posted the results. The monikers I give have no effect on the election.

[crazytown]

10. Those are not the numbers I'm seeing at the link

From TFA

[DemocratSinceBirth]

14. Because you're not looking at the Early Primaries frame, pardner.

[crazytown]

15. OK got it. Sorry.

[Control-Z]

16. I agree about not using "teflon" about Joe Biden

or about any of our candidates. Please don't. Call me superstitious. But it's just not true about Joe or any other democrat.

[Cha]

37. I agree with that, too, Control-Z

Everything can and does change on a dime.. as is said.

[sandensea]

30. +1

Biden may not be my first choice - but I certainly don't subscribe to this notion that he's somehow a 'teflon' candidate.

This is a man who can't have one silly gaffe, one minor temper flare-up, one peck on a lady's cheek, one touch on the shoulder, without the media declaring an OJ-style news marathon over it.

[democratisphere]

33. It is crazy how drumpf gets a pass on rape and Biden is annihilated

for his innocent gestures.

[sandensea]

35. +1

With Wall Street preference comes preferential treatment.

Yes, they know Biden's no Bernie Sanders or Liz Warren - but that's no longer enough for them.

For presidents, they want lackeys, puppets, jesters, and buffoons.

And they finally found one that's all that (and more) rolled into one.

[Cha]

4. Wow.. Impressive!

[riverine]

5. Although I don't support either - Senator Warren has clearly out-campaigned Bernie Sanders to date

Sadly, these numbers lend credence to her lack of "electability".

[Thekaspervote]

17. It is sad!! I would love to see a woman president

[Green Line]

20. I would too

But the only thing that matters is beating Trump, Joe has the best chance in my opinion.

[boomer_wv]

24. VP

I think Biden would pick a woman as his running mate. We haven't had a woman VP either.

If Biden were to win I could see him deciding that he would only serve one term, setting his VP choice up to be the front runner in 2024.

[hoosierspud]

25. That whole electability thing is a pile of crap!

It's just a not-so-subtle way of saying that we need a white man in order to win

[IluvPitties]

29. Nah, we need a person that can appeal to both liberals and moderates.

Biden is that person.

[hoosierspud]

32. We need someone who can appeal to young voters.

Biden is a dinosaur. He is so incredibly tone deaf at times. He also refuses to realize that the political landscape has changed. Unless he wakes up to that fact and joins the 21st century, he's not going anywhere.

[emmaverybo]

39. He's been working in the 21st century, only recently having served as America's Vice-President.

[hoosierspud]

43. With 20th century values and outlook.

He's demonstrated that several times in the last few weeks.

[Demsrule86]

45. Maybe we do this year...but have you considered. Biden is made to take three states...WI, MI and PA.

and Trump can't win without those states...he has no path. Biden can stop him cold; perhaps even Florida and Ohio may be in play with a Biden candidacy. He is from PA and is way up in other states mentioned...he is even leading Trump in Texas. Maybe the nominee has to fit the electorate and election circumstances and not a policy, or a purity standard. The midterms were won by moderates...like it or not we have a House majority because of those moderate candidates and those who voted for them.

[hoosierspud]

54. If Warren's message on worker and consumer rights

is able to reach those voters, we could easily win those states. By playing the electability card, you shut the door on several really good candidates. We need to look to the future, not the past.

[marylandblue]

55. No they don't. Her trend is upward, Sanders is downward.

And other polls show her winning over Trump in a head to head matchup. It's too early to count her out.

[oasis]

7. Try as they may, nothing sticks to Joe.

[Skya Rhen]

11. Thank you, DSB!!!!

[BootinUp]

12. More like bulletproof

[Scurrilous]

13. K&R

[emmaverybo]

18. Thanks for this info. Been waiting to see how we are doing. 🍾🍾🍾🥂

[NYMinute]

19. K&R

David Sirota must be getting drunk and trying to formulate new smears

[LibFarmer]

21. Just as expected

People are now well-exposed to the smears and tricks from David Sirota et al.

[Gothmog]

22. From Nate Silver

Link to tweet

[Cha]

38. WOW! Gracias, Goth!

Link to tweet

I'm sure they did "expect Biden to drop.." because they were working overtime to make it happen.

[USALiberal]

23. I still don't understand the clever names for Joe but nothing for anyone else.

[SouthernProgressive]

52. I don't know this to be the case but I'm going to venture a guess.

Many males in my age group and older grew up with a couple of bigger than life Joe's that were known by nicknames. Smokin Joe Frazier. Joe Cool. Joe Camel. Joltin Joe. The list goes on. And I think DSB is a boxing fan. That would make sense.

[redstateblues]

26. The Warren Surge is vastly overrated

[Midwestocrat]

42. It's not put into perspective.

The Warren surge IS real. It's vastly misinterpreted though. The numbers clearly show they're coming from former supporters of Mr. Sanders. They're not undecideds, independent-leaning Democrats, or moderates.

And they're not Biden supporters. We're sticking with our guy.

[Demsrule86]

46. I think Warren has hit a ceiling...not much change for her and

Sanders is in first place.

[Hulk]

27. Meaningless numbers at this point in time.

Just remember, where was Obama at this point in time back in 2007. I never even heard of him.

It's a looong tmroad, and 23 need to bow out along the way. Not even chapter I yet.

[JI7]

28. Obama was well known and he was 2nd to Clinton in the polls

[Demsrule86]

47. Not the same...there were only two people in the 08 primary race...and Obama was a rock star.

I like Elizabeth Warren but she is not a rock star...I don't see any current candidate with Obama's natural political ability...except maybe Biden...he relates very well to the 'folks'.

[Bradshaw3]

31. History proves you are right

Despite how much the Biden supporters hate to hear it, being ahead this early is a predictor of who is NOT going to be the nominee. Since JFK no non-incumbent President or Vice-President Democratic frontrunner in the early polls - even those with big leads - has gone on to win the nomination.

This from 538 doesn't include 2004 or 2008 but the trend also holds there:
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-more-than-40-years-of-early-primary-polls-tell-us-about-2020-part-1/


I think part of the reason these polls are being trumpeted so loudly is some want to shut the process down now before the voters start to learn about the other candidates. Biden has name recognition the others don't, but once the debates and primaries get started that will all change. Liek you said we are not even to chapter 1 yet.

[Midwestocrat]

41. Not really...

He's leading in Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, and crushing the others in South Carolina.

Polls matter. All of them. They begin to paint the picture that is the 2020 race. I believe it was 538 that did a study on this.

Ah! Here we go! Polls matter.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/fivethirtyeight.com/features/we-analyzed-40-years-of-primary-polls-even-early-on-theyre-fairly-predictive/amp/

[honest.abe]

44. I find it hard to believe that you never saw the "Obama Girl" video (June 2007)

[freindship 7]

34. its not over

Joe Biden is just the safe bet and I get it but aside from offering a few policy blurbs its the same old shit.
Mayor Pete has proven he is not ready he cant handle his police problem and gave great lip service and away he goes so just imagine what he would tell Black America Gee thanks for the votes ? I am not black but this has been the way things have gone.
America needs more than a green new deal it needs reconstruction.
Whoever wins will have to be the embodiment of Lincoln F.D.R J.FK with the deal making skills of L.B.J thrown in for good measure.
As much as some may have despised her Hillary was that person and America you fucked up you stayed home a few got conned and a few of you stayed home and pouted like a five year old who didn't get a cookie.
Whoever takes the keys from the toddler in chief is going to have to have a plan and not a bunch of words im sick of it and so is the country.
The new commander in chief will have to sell their idea of reconstructing our government and our democracy and our country.
and like Lincoln and F.D.R and J.F.K and L.B.J they will be hated and there will be those misguided Maga zealots who will scream and some who will be out for blood but change comes at a price and I for one am willing to pay for it.
This election has to be more than free college or a guaranteed grand in the bank every month it has to be about reconstruction of our government and our rotting infrastructure and it needs to be about ending our dependence on Oil and it has to be about rebuilding the trust and relations with our allies and we must come together as a world to drive Trump's boyfriends out of relevance by diplomatic and economic means.
IM not looking for sexy and I could care less about having a beer with the president and pissing in the rose garden for sport.
No sir I just want someone man or woman black or white or yellow or green any color but orange Gay BI or straight who can do what must be done this time around

[Demsrule86]

48. I just want Trump gone...being a numbers person. I see how hard it will be to take the Senate.

Thus, we will stop Trump and the Republicans...that is better than giving Trump a second term. He is dangerous. We won't get any policy unless we by some miracle take the Senate...thus all the policy stuff will not happen. One needs to have realistic expectations. And maybe Biden will have some coattails and win enough Senate seats to at least get judges and fix the ACA.

[Midwestocrat]

40. GO JOE GO!!

I love Diamond Joe (barely 2nd place for me to Steve)!! It appears all the smears, and lies, and sewage being thrown at him is epically failing!

The fact is, outside of Social Media's bubble... Democrats love Biden. We know he gaffes. It just isn't news when he does it.

If you don't like Joe in the primary, PROMOTE YOUR candidate. Don't slander others!

[Peacetrain]

49. Doing the Happy Dance!!!!

[ehrnst]

50. "Just voters who live in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, or Nevada."

[DemocratSinceBirth]

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