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A tornado hit South Bend Sunday, damaging buildings and knocking down trees, weather service confirm (Original Post) question everything Jun 2019 OP
I dunno--was he responsible? CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2019 #1
Thank you. Tipperary Jun 2019 #3
To console. This is what leaders often do question everything Jun 2019 #20
Oh, boy. I can just hear the Bible thumpers now. sandensea Jun 2019 #2
Wow. Such bad luck lately. ecstatic Jun 2019 #4
He needs time and experience. IluvPitties Jun 2019 #5
Having a tornado doesn't justify this 'he needs time and experience' ... nor does the 'In ... SWBTATTReg Jun 2019 #30
what state office do you suggest? Celerity Jun 2019 #7
I was wondering about that too, including the idea of moving. ecstatic Jun 2019 #8
No, he won't move. He has stated that he is a son of South Bend. CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2019 #9
Yes. I forgot to put that in this time when discussing this. Celerity Jun 2019 #13
Good Grief...it's like the forces are telling him not to run Indygram Jun 2019 #6
He is not going to drop out. He just doesn't operate that way. CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2019 #10
Unlike Beto, he has a full-time job. cwydro Jun 2019 #11
My post was not an attack or insult on Mayor Pete Indygram Jun 2019 #16
"Forces" "Fate" "Bad things usually happen in threes" cwydro Jun 2019 #17
I was actually posting in at least one other thread that I genuinely feel bad for Pete Indygram Jun 2019 #18
Your concern is noted. cwydro Jun 2019 #19
Bad things happen in 3s? MoonRiver Jun 2019 #23
Actually, surveying the damage, consoling people who got hurt and loss question everything Jun 2019 #21
Yes he was. Why do you ask? irisblue Jun 2019 #12
I ask a simple question. Being there can enhance his image as a leader question everything Jun 2019 #22
Since you obviously want to make a natural disaster about Buttigieg, you picked the right forum. cwydro Jun 2019 #14
May be "obvious" to you. Silly me, I thought that being there can enhance his image question everything Jun 2019 #24
It's obvious how much you want his image "enhanced" Politicub Jun 2019 #27
Why? How easy it is to throw insults without any evidence question everything Jun 2019 #29
Yeah, sure. cwydro Jun 2019 #33
It is hilarious that in a thread edhopper Jun 2019 #15
Who is bashing Buttigieg? An opportunity for him to enhance his image.. That too many question everything Jun 2019 #25
It read like he was being taken to task edhopper Jun 2019 #26
"An opportunity for him to enhance his image." SouthernProgressive Jun 2019 #32
Two wrongs don't make a right MustLoveBeagles Jun 2019 #35
lol fail ! stonecutter357 Jun 2019 #28
epic fail leftofcool Jun 2019 #31
And trying to squirm out of it now. cwydro Jun 2019 #34
 

question everything

(47,518 posts)
20. To console. This is what leaders often do
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 12:04 PM
Jun 2019

To ask for Federal assistance - if needed? How easy it is to take offense when there is none

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sandensea

(21,650 posts)
2. Oh, boy. I can just hear the Bible thumpers now.
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 11:05 PM
Jun 2019


"It's a sign from the LAWD! Let us pray in His almighty name."
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ecstatic

(32,727 posts)
4. Wow. Such bad luck lately.
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 12:37 AM
Jun 2019

Pete has a bright future, but this isn't his time. He should run for state office, let the smoke clear, then try again in 2028.

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IluvPitties

(3,181 posts)
5. He needs time and experience.
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 12:47 AM
Jun 2019

In politics, 37 is being a teenager.

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SWBTATTReg

(22,156 posts)
30. Having a tornado doesn't justify this 'he needs time and experience' ... nor does the 'In ...
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 12:36 PM
Jun 2019

politics, 37 is being a teenager.'

Lots of good experienced people at all ages were at the helm when my hometown got hammered by a tornado (Joplin MO). The experiences in dealing w/ the aftermath of this particular tornado couldn't ever prepare anyone on dealing w/ such a massive disaster (over 7000 homes wiped out). So handling a tornado (probably an ef1 or ef2) should not the only criteria.

And personally, I think he's doing fine. Being a city manager means that you're literally dealing with just about every single entity on earth, w/ regard to South Bend (governor, senators/house representatives, town council, public, etc.). I daresay that there are some representatives currently in the US Congress who have zero experience in dealing with the public.

I've heard of some republican reps who have never still had a town hall meeting w/ their voters...do they need time and experience too?

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Celerity

(43,477 posts)
7. what state office do you suggest?
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 02:14 AM
Jun 2019

He is trapped in ruby red Indiana.

Even his congressional district has been gerrymandered to Trump +20.

His best hope is a cabinet post, or (and he would never do this) move to Blue/Purple state.

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ecstatic

(32,727 posts)
8. I was wondering about that too, including the idea of moving.
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 03:57 AM
Jun 2019

I'm not sure how well that would go over, but other politicians have pulled it off. Hillary, Romney, etc.

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CaliforniaPeggy

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9. No, he won't move. He has stated that he is a son of South Bend.
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 04:01 AM
Jun 2019

He belongs there--his roots are there.

To move would be very damaging.

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Celerity

(43,477 posts)
13. Yes. I forgot to put that in this time when discussing this.
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 08:52 AM
Jun 2019

He seems really bound to the area.

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Indygram

(2,113 posts)
6. Good Grief...it's like the forces are telling him not to run
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 01:42 AM
Jun 2019

Poor guy needs to drop out before a freaking meteor drops on his house...jeesum!

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CaliforniaPeggy

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10. He is not going to drop out. He just doesn't operate that way.
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 04:02 AM
Jun 2019

This is his chance and he will ride out the storm.

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cwydro

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11. Unlike Beto, he has a full-time job.
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 05:10 AM
Jun 2019

He didn’t cause the tornado for crying out loud.

He’s doing his job. Last I checked, Beto doesn’t even have one.

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Indygram

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16. My post was not an attack or insult on Mayor Pete
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 09:40 AM
Jun 2019

I was saying that fate is really working against him and since bad things usually happen in threes. All this stuff going on in his town is going to make it really hard for him to campaign as he needs to without drawing intense criticism from the people he serves.

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cwydro

(51,308 posts)
17. "Forces" "Fate" "Bad things usually happen in threes"
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 09:45 AM
Jun 2019

Take your wu elsewhere.

I bet you run the other way when you see a black cat.

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Indygram

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18. I was actually posting in at least one other thread that I genuinely feel bad for Pete
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 10:11 AM
Jun 2019

my post was not intended in a negative way. It was more of a "good grief, what's this poor guy going to have happen next?"

But if I'm being serious, like I was on the other thread...I don't see how he recovers from this for this race. He had an uphill battle before the shooting. It's going to take months and months to deal with that at home. If he tries to campaign in the way he NEEDS to in order to be competitive then he WILL be accused of neglecting his duties at home. That could lead to very angry and volatile protests and even riots. If he comes across at all like he cares more about winning this election than fixing his own town that will be how he is forever remembered and his political career is likely over. He already had a problem with black voters, who are the core of the base. Because there were already issues that gave those voters pause about him, in all honesty there is probably not much he can do to reverse that now. His best bet for his political future is to suspend his campaign, at least temporarily, and try to deal with this issue and then consider re-entering later or running for a local race if he is able to later in the year.

Do I genuinely feel badly for him? Yes, I do.
Do I think it's in the best interest for his long term career for him to either drop out of suspend his campaign to deal with the problems in his town? Yes, I do.
Am I trying to be mean or snarky or attacking Buttigieg? No. I have sincere empathy for what he is dealing with.

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cwydro

(51,308 posts)
19. Your concern is noted.
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 10:16 AM
Jun 2019
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MoonRiver

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23. Bad things happen in 3s?
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 12:09 PM
Jun 2019

I've always heard "3rd time is the charm."

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question everything

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21. Actually, surveying the damage, consoling people who got hurt and loss
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 12:06 PM
Jun 2019

can enhance his image.


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irisblue

(33,018 posts)
12. Yes he was. Why do you ask?
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 08:16 AM
Jun 2019

The story you posted was about the tornado; it was not about Buttigieg. The South Bend Tribune is his local paper, it tends to cover him.

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question everything

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22. I ask a simple question. Being there can enhance his image as a leader
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 12:08 PM
Jun 2019

Amazing why so many here are so twitchy that they find nefarious reasons.

Oh well. Eight more months to the Iowa Caucus.


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cwydro

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14. Since you obviously want to make a natural disaster about Buttigieg, you picked the right forum.
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 09:03 AM
Jun 2019

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But it’s pathetic.

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question everything

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24. May be "obvious" to you. Silly me, I thought that being there can enhance his image
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 12:10 PM
Jun 2019

The candidates with day jobs should remember that their first obligation is to their constituents but, I suppose.. well, never mind..

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Politicub

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27. It's obvious how much you want his image "enhanced"
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 12:27 PM
Jun 2019
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question everything

(47,518 posts)
29. Why? How easy it is to throw insults without any evidence
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 12:30 PM
Jun 2019

Please, explain.

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I am waiting. Actually, I have better things to do than clicking on the keyboard. Beautiful weather and I am going to go walking, climbing the highest point in the county.

By bye

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cwydro

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33. Yeah, sure.
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 02:14 PM
Jun 2019

Your post and its intentions are clear.

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edhopper

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15. It is hilarious that in a thread
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 09:38 AM
Jun 2019

bashing Buttigieg, a post bashing Beto is alerted.

Sauce for the Goose people.

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question everything

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25. Who is bashing Buttigieg? An opportunity for him to enhance his image.. That too many
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 12:12 PM
Jun 2019

here take offense, well, they should look at the mirror

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edhopper

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26. It read like he was being taken to task
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 12:17 PM
Jun 2019

for being absent in his town when disaster struck.

If that was not your intention, you could make it clearer in the OP.

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SouthernProgressive

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32. "An opportunity for him to enhance his image."
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 01:14 PM
Jun 2019

There is a certain level of ambiguity in your op. Putting the above statement in the op would clear it up.

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Undecided
 

MustLoveBeagles

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35. Two wrongs don't make a right
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 07:58 PM
Jun 2019

Neither man deserves to be bashed.

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cwydro

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34. And trying to squirm out of it now.
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 02:15 PM
Jun 2019

Total fail.

We see you OP.

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