The alleged "statement from the Biden campaign" that Chris Matthews raised such a stink about

[highplainsdem]

tonight was actually an off-the-cuff tweet from a Biden advisor, apparently tweeted during the debate.

See this thread about the kerfuffle:

Link to tweet

Whoops, that was the last of the three tweets in that thread from a Politico reporter. First tweet in the thread is here:

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Anyway, I don't like what Biden advisor Cristobal Alex tweeted here

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but there's a huge difference between a spontaneous tweet from one advisor and an actual campaign staff statement.


And FWIW, Trump's campaign manager, Brad Parscale, was gleefully tweeting about Harris's attack on Biden. And he was doing so just a minute or so before Cristobal Alex's tweet.

[crazytown]

1. Matthews wanted a story

(The MSM are not our friends EOM)

[highplainsdem]

4. Exactly.

[madaboutharry]

2. Chris Matthews is an emotional reactor.

He doesn’t spend too much time processing or employing critical thinking skills before he opens his mouth.

[highplainsdem]

3. True.

[pnwmom]

5. People shouldn't use accounts identifying themselves as Sr. Advisors

as a place to make "off the cuff" tweets.

[highplainsdem]

7. Funny how Twitter doesn't follow such "rules." And "journalists" shouldn't claim something is a

statement from a campaign when it's a tweet from a single advisor.

[pnwmom]

8. It isn't Twitter's job to make such rules. A well-run campaign would make this clear

to all its advisors. A campaign is supposed to have a unified message -- not advisors spouting off on Twitter with "off the cuff" remarks that could cause problems for the candidate.

[highplainsdem]

12. Then I suggest you complain to Alex, who was head of the Latino Victory Fund and also HRC's

National Deputy Director of Voter Outreach and Mobilization in 2016.

The point is that this was NOT a campaign statement, not something from Joe Biden.

But I'm seeing people here and on Twitter suggesting this was Biden's response, and that's a nasty smear.

[Cha]

16. +1000

[pnwmom]

18. It IS a campaign statement. In the Twitter world, there is no line between

campaign statements and statements coming from Twitter accounts identified with the title of "Sr. Advisor to Joe Biden."

If he wanted to make a personal, off-the-cuff statement, he should have put it on a personal, non-campaign related account -- not an account labeled with his job title that is FULL of political and Biden related tweets.

Biden's the one who should be complaining to his staffer, not me. It isn't something that hurts me -- it hurts Biden.

[Cha]

6. THANK YOU! I've been looking for this Tweet and here it is!!

Link to tweet

[Iliyah]

9. Harris said Biden was not a racist . . .

But that Rolling Stone tweet viewed Biden as one, especially against an educated Black women. It was wrong.

[Cha]

10. Trump's campaign manager, Brad Parscale, was gleefully tweeting about Harris's attack

on Biden. And he was doing so just a minute or so before Cristobal Alex's tweet.

And, that's what he was talking about.. good to know.. Thank You!

[highplainsdem]

13. You're welcome, but I should add I'm not sure Alex had seen Parscale's tweet by the time he

typed those final words about "what Trump wants." It's possible he did, if he was watching Parscale's reaction to the debate, but I'm not sure of it.

[Cha]

15. Yeah, maybe it was

just a coincidence and a gut instinct.

[comradebillyboy]

11. Simone Sanders putting Tweety in his place.

And doing a good professional job representing Biden.

[pnwmom]

20. But she was wrong. It was a Twitter account clearly labeled with the job title

of Senior Advisor to Joe Biden, and the page is full of Biden-related and political posts.

They need to train their staffers, so that everyone stays on message every time they're using social media on a campaign-labeled account.

[msongs]

14. twitter is basically a sewer IMO nt

[LovingA2andMI]

17. So if a Senior campaign advisor says.....

What was said, do they now not speak for the Campaign....

Maybe Symone and the Biden Campaign need to figure that out FIRST...

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Symone's Response:

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(But they did tho via the Other Senior campaign Advisor):

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And there's this:

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Until a Campaign Staffer "took that back" too a bit (kind of):

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In the end, Biden's lack of Debate Prep showed in the #DemDebate2. He looked tired, he stumbled over some words, said the straight comment about the NRA that not being our enemy -- "Our enemy is the gun manufacturers, not the NRA," said Joe Biden -- and generally had a bad night.

That's just the way it is. Maybe he can get better, but it better happen fast (and his Campaign Staff might do well to talk to each other BEFORE they Tweet).

[pnwmom]

19. Right. A Senior Advisor to Joe Biden, tweeting from an account clearly labeled with his job title,

and full of Biden related and political tweets.

And yet we're not supposed to view it as coming from the campaign.

[Cha]

21. Whomever the supposed "source" is.. is a

traitor to the Campaign.. and I do not take their words to be true.