Democratic Senators Surprisingly Open to Sanders

[babylonsister]

https://politicalwire.com/2019/03/10/democratic-senators-surprisingly-open-to-sanders/


Democratic Senators Surprisingly Open to Sanders
March 10, 2019 at 9:09 am EDT By Taegan Goddard

Politico: “Senate Democrats say they’re increasingly open to getting behind Bernie Sanders if he appears the strongest candidate a year from now. And there’s no whiff of an effort to try and deny him the nomination, according to interviews with more than 20 Democratic senators.”

“It’s not that the Democratic Caucus is rallying behind him; most of them would prefer a more mainstream nominee, even if they’re unwilling to say it at this point. But they’re giving Sanders props for what he’s accomplished, and say if he’s able to win the nomination, more power to him.”

[empedocles]

1. Something of an 'if' there

[Cha]

2. Yeah, big IF.. hopefully

that won't be necessary.

[MrsCoffee]

3. Seems there is some implication here that they tried to block him in 2016.

The politico article says he was treated like a pariah last time.



I'm so over this victim mentality.

And that IF is the key word.

[Cha]

4. Right.. BS was no victim.. I don't

care what's being pushed.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

42. Do you not remember that the DNC chair had to step down?

I can't be the only one that remembers what the DNC did, right? Any one?

[Cha]

44. So?

[oasis]

47. Debbie Wasserman Schultz got a raw deal. The DNC got another

raw deal by agreeing to allow Bernie surrogate, Cornel West, take a seat on the platform committee.

I can't be the only one who remembers what a mistake that was. Right? Who did West support in the general election after walking out on the Democratic Party Platfprm Committee?

[LongtimeAZDem]

54. You're not

[ehrnst]

51. And? (nt)

[calimary]

27. No kidding.

[sheshe2]

5. Frankly,

I see it as quiet acceptance of his run. They aren't trashing their own (or those that caucus with us) since they are fully aware that to much is at stake in this election. Democrats know that all Americans will lose dearly if we don't take the WH in 2020. Democrats are in it for all of Americans. I hope that every candidate follow their lead and not allow attacks in their campaign, that includes their supporters. We cannot lose this election. Our lives are at stake.

[LakeArenal]

9. I agree completly. . "IF" "IT" happens.

Plus media on the huge
“Dems Divided” right now.

We really aren’t.

[sheshe2]

11. You are right, for the most part we are not divided.

[Doitnow]

21. I think the biggest threat to tRump winning is if the Democratic party truly sticks together and

does not allow any force to separate us. There is so much of the population that is already agreeing to certain changes that need to be made and so many Democrats running that concur, it just makes sense that our side will win. They may say 80% of Republicans are for tRump. Well, 80% of WHAT. I'd sure like to know the total---especially compared to our total. I'd bet our numbers are higher.

Beware of the media that looooves to create dissension by the questions they ask in interviews.

[LakeArenal]

22. Yes

[oldsoftie]

28. 80% of not a HUGE number. The Independents win elections.

If all Dems vote "D" & all republicans vote "R", wherever the "Independent" vote goes decides the election. And whether we like it or not, the largest voting group by far label themselves Independents. The last report i saw was as of 2017, and it was over 40%.

I agree with you that more of the country wants changes that are being proposed. But i worry that some will want to push too far and that may turn "I"s away. They may or may not vote for trump again, but they may not vote at all either. Not a popular opinion on DU, but thats how i see it being around many who are in that group.

[seaglass]

64. All but 10% of "independents" are partisans. They are not a group with common issues. n/t

[oldsoftie]

65. And where do you get this from? By claiming independence, they're non-aligned.

How can they be partisan if they'll vote for Bush & then vote for Obama? Not in entirety, but in enough numbers.
My dad was this way. he NEVER voted party. He voted for who he liked at election time

[seaglass]

67. They're have been numerous studies on this. Your dad may be one of the 10%. My husband,

myself and my son are all registered unenrolled (what "independents" are called in MA). We never vote for Repubs for President (and I don't vote for any Repub for any seat). My brother on the other hand is unenrolled and usually votes Repub or Libertarian.

In MA there are more people registered unenrolled than either major party - it's been a long time since MA voters chose a Repub for President.

http://www.people-press.org/2018/03/20/1-trends-in-party-affiliation-among-demographic-groups/

[oldsoftie]

68. But why arent you a registered Democrat? If you were polled, would you say you were an Independent?

Not a whole lot of republican dominated races in MA.
I know down south, many real Dems register as republicans because many races have only republican candidates, so if you want a voice in the primaries you HAVE to register that way.

[calimary]

29. The numbers aren't there.

Oh wow - 80 percent of republi-CONS. Gee whiz. NOT. So what, when the numbers of those considering themselves GOPers are declining. Fewer people self-identify as GOPers according to every population study or poll I’ve seen.

[Stellar]

30. Exactly!

I thought that the PUMA's were hell bent to divide the party and I was afraid that would happen. I hope we can at least stick together to keep that Orange thing OUT of the Whitehouse this time.

[sheshe2]

34. I truly believe his poll numbers are coming out of Russia.

[Uncle Joe]

6. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread babylonsister.

[CrossingTheRubicon]

7. It is surprising that Sen. Bernard Sanders (I-Vt) has a single colleague endorsing him.

That's about as "open" to getting behind him as I can imagine.

[Eric J in MN]

32. List of endorsements from US Senators

Joe Biden: The two from Delaware plus Dianne Feinstein of CA.

Bernie Sanders, Cory Booker, Elizabeth Warren, and Amy Klobuchar: The other Senator representing the respective state.

[CrossingTheRubicon]

33. So three times as many for Biden and he's not even in the race yet. LOL.

The party will rally behind Joe.

[leftofcool]

8. Yea, well, he will need every Democrat in America voting for him, not just Senators

[Catch2.2]

10. I will gladly support Bernie Sanders!

or whoever the Dem nominee is.

[mountain grammy]

12. Agree!

[calimary]

31. I will support Bernie Sanders if he becomes the nominee.

Without gladness, enthusiasm or excitement, however. But we’ve got a job to do, people. Job One is to get rid of trump. And if Bernie’s the one still standing after the last of the smoke dissipates, then he’ll have my vote.

I will vote for him if I have to.

But, gotta be honest - I’m hoping I won’t have to.

[roody]

13. I caught a whiff.

[Evolve Dammit]

14. Will support the nominee. Period. And thanks Donna Brazille for giving H the debate questions.

Bernie won 23 states. And stumped for H after the nomination.

[LiberalLovinLug]

17. Did Brazille actually give the questions or did she just expose DWS did that?

[emulatorloo]

58. NBC: Top Sanders Aide Defends DNC Chair [Brazille] in Wikileaks Controversy

https://www.nbcnews.com/card/top-sanders-aide-defends-dnc-chair-wikileaks-controversy-n664831

Top Sanders Aide Defends DNC Chair in Wikileaks Controversy

Tad Devine, who served as the top strategist on Bernie Sanders’ presidential campaign, came the defense of Democratic National Committee Chair Donna Brazile Tuesday after hacked emails showed what some read as improper coordination between Brazile and the Clinton campaign.

Brazile said the question in the email was for a normal upcoming appearance on CNN and said she would regularly contact both campaigns for guidance.

"Yes that is absolutely true,”Devine said of Brazile’s account of the matter in an email to NBC News. "She would get in touch all the time for guidance, so I can verify her recollection on this issue."

The email, allegedly stolen from Clinton Campaign chair John Podesta’s personal account and posted WikiLeaks, showed Brazile communicating with a Clinton aide about a question CNN planned to ask her. Brazile was a paid CNN contributor, and many observers assumed the question was one CNN planned to ask Clinton in a joint town hall with Sanders and Clinton.

That would have been improper since Brazile was also the co-chair of the DNC and thus supposed to remain neutral. But both Brazile and CNN denied that she even had access to the town hall questions, let alone leaked them to the Clinton campaign. Devine agreed.

"I don't think she gave anybody the questions,” he [Tad Devine] said. "I was in touch with her all the time."

The Clinton campaign has refused to authenticate the emails

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Let’s stick with facts rather than continuing to spread the bullshit Putin propaganda Wikileaks gleefully spread

[RadicalProgressive]

15. Clearly he is the frontrunner

Democrats would probably do well to rally behind him.

He is clearly the frontrunner and polls very well against the orange guy.

[Amimnoch]

35. Nope. Never. -nt.

[namahage]

37. Why are you demanding a coronation for Biden? n/t

[JudyM]

48. He polled the best against tRump last time too.

[ehrnst]

50. The Democratic candidates all poll well over DT. If he wins the Democratic nomination this time

Democrats will rally behind him.

[zaj]

16. I'm in that boat

[LiberalLovinLug]

18. I wish DU would be as open as their Senators seem to be

Not all, but a loud vocal minority, nothing he does is good enough.

[Cha]

20. BS is getting Vetted this time. Everyone is..

No exceptions.

Actually there's a lot of people willing to Vet BS this time.. in spite of your accusation of ".. a loud vocal minority".

Exhibit 1.. this thread..

Bernie invoking Hillary

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=17213

[OilemFirchen]

43. Pssst. Look up. The top of the page. See it?

There's your "loud vocal minority" right there.

[Cha]

45. Thank YOu! Yeah we're Loud but we're in the

Majority!

[LiberalLovinLug]

46. So you are proud n loud that you are in the majority

who think nothing Bernie Sanders does is good enough.

Congratulations.

[Cha]

49. Oh BULL...

Too bad you can't handle BS getting Vetted this time.

And, you had it Wrong when you stated "minority"... all you had to do was look around

[LiberalLovinLug]

61. Then its a pretty sad state of affairs here

I for one, refuse to believe that the majority are so callous and full of such resentment and irrational hatred of Sanders that "nothing he does is good enough" Which is what you doubled down on.

In my opinion, most here are good enough to recognize the Sanders has been much more good than bad to the Democratic party. That he has stood shoulder to shoulder with them through tough times. That he as been important in pushing forward policies like he did with the woman you are endorsing, Kamala Harris, with Medicare-For-All.

Perhaps "the majority" would like him to join the Democratic party permanently. Perhaps the majority would wish he'd never use the word "socialism". I could agree with those projections. Some can't get over that he's the Sneech without a Star. But that is a far cry from thinking nothing he does is worthwhile. No, you my friend are in a minority. The only reason the most hateful, can-do-nothing-right OPs and posts are noticed is because they are so vile and noticeable, not because a majority are still wallowing in resentment and vindictiveness and will never forgive him for daring to even get close to toppling their first choice. No, the same few names always pop up. I can count them on one hand.

[Cha]

62. BS is getting Vetted.. deal with it or not.

[LiberalLovinLug]

63. Great! why would I have a problem with that?

He says he will also submit his full tax records. I only have a problem with irrational divisive hatred of one of our most productive and popular and important allies. And ridiculous claims that the majority of DUers are clouded in that same haze of hatred as a loud MINORITY. Too bad you can't accept Sanders the way that Harris and other Democrats do.

I am undecided. I am leaning towards Harris though, because although I feel Sanders would have won the general last time, and saved us from Trump, and might again, it is time for new blood, IMO. We can win with new blood. The public is almost crying out for it. And one of the major reasons I lean towards Harris is precisely because she respects and is not hesitant of praising and working with Sanders, and pushing his more progressive policies.

[ehrnst]

52. .....

[rzemanfl]

53. Bookmarking. n/t

[Nanjeanne]

19. I'm supporting three candidates right now - Bernie among them. Some I have zero interest in and

hope they aren't the nominee. I know I'll vote for the Dem nominee no matter what - but I'd really like to be excited about it the way I was in 2008 when I cast my vote for Obama. But as all the nominees start really campaigning and we get to see more fully fleshed out ideas on their websites and listen to them in the debates . . . anything can happen and my support can possibly switch.

For now - it's just great to me that I see so many candidates with thoughtful ideas and so many who support what attracted to me about Bernie in the first place. As long as I don't pay that much attention to the noise -- I'm enjoying the primary season!

[Cha]

23. Good the "Senators" aren't being Divisive like BS has been..

Bernie: ‘My Opponents’ Want Black, White, Gay, Latino or Women Candidates ‘Regardless of What They Stand For’

After the 2016 election, Sanders hit a similar theme when he told a crowd of supporters “It’s not good enough for somebody to say ‘hey I’m a Latina vote for me’ that is not good enough,” and went on to add “It is not good enough for somebody to say, ‘I’m a woman, vote for me.'”

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211722251

He was out there on cnn right after trump was Rigged in.. calling My Democratic Party "elite" and how he was "humiliated" making it all about himself.

https://www.cnn.com/2016/11/14/politics/bernie-sanders-humiliated-democrats-loss-working-class-voters/index.html

[Amimnoch]

36. I'm writing letters to each one quoted in the full article.

Well, except for Merkley. I did note in the article that Sanders lone Senate endorsement from 2016 isn’t ready to commit yet.

Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.), however, is not ready to endorse anyone after being Sanders' lone Senate supporter in 2016.

[Cha]

39. Good on Senator Merkley! And, Mahalo for

doing that, Amimnoch.. can you say what you're going to write?

[Amimnoch]

40. Not here.

Would be close to breaking a few rules, and I follow the rules.

[Cha]

41. yeah, that's why I asked.. So Thank YOU

for Writing the "Senators".

[Squinch]

25. Why do all the articles about BS consistently misrepresent what the source article

actually said? This is political wire misrepresenting a politico story that misrepresented what the source Senate Democrats said.

This is why no one trusts the Bernie Bros. Dig into their statements, and they are always misrepresenting what people actually say.

[EveHammond13]

26. what is Politicalwire dot com

[David__77]

38. I think Democrats will rally together regardless.

And ability to win is a consideration for sure, along with political agreement. I think that applies to all the candidates.

[forklift]

55. Bernie supporters are grasping at straws

I want to see Bernie's tax returns. Where are they?


#whatishehiding

[Blue_Tires]

56. That's fine, continue to play cool and go along

Don't give St. Bern and his hit squad any of the ammunition they so desperately crave...

[Carrito]

57. "most of its members would prefer a more mainstream nominee"

from the article.

[workinclasszero]

60. Glad to see important democrats are ready to back the front runner Bernie Sanders

if he gets the nomination.

[CrossingTheRubicon]

66. That's a yuge *if*.

Ain't gonna happen.