Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumprimary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SouthernProgressive
(1,810 posts)Really really sad to see him do this. Castro is one of my favorites but this actually lacks ethics.
Sad to know Biden wants to keep it criminal, as well.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)You have to have borders and laws...We need a policy for this...not this sort of half baked thing.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SouthernProgressive
(1,810 posts)"You have to have borders and laws"
Which Democrat running doesn't think we should have borders and laws? You literally just reworded "open borders" to tell a tale that doesn't exist in reality.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
peggysue2
(10,830 posts)In fact shortly after Castro's comments at the debate, we had a really good post by a DU member, grantcart. You can read it here:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287170319#post7
Lots of excellent points made in this OP. Far better than simply shooting from the hip.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SouthernProgressive
(1,810 posts)"You have to have borders and laws"
That is a variation of their "open border" nonsense. None of our candidates are fighting for removing borders.
The post you link does no negate that.
You might think we have a candidate promoting what was stated above. I know we don't.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)You could attempt to toss them out once they are here I suppose...we will get crushed in a general if we run on this.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)Castro wants to decriminalize crossing the border ...get rid of statue 1325...It is a bad idea for our chances on winning the 2020 election...we could lose the house as well. The article below is from former Obama folks and it details the risks for us. Please note it is published in the hill- so stop with the right wing talking points crap. We don't accuse other DU'ers of being right wing or mouthing right wing talking points which this clearly is not. The GOP will use this issue to destroy us in the general. It would be a damn shame if the left snatched defeat from the jaws of victory and gave Trump another four years to destroy this country.
...Former Obama administration officials are warning Democratic presidential candidates to back off from their proposals to decriminalize border crossings, saying that its bad policy and a surefire general election loser that gives President Trump an opening on immigration.
'...In an op-ed in The Washington Post this week, former Obama Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson said that decriminalization would attract hundreds of thousands of new migrants to the southern border. He described the proposal as tantamount to declaring declaring publicly that we have open borders.
'...But the former Obama officials worried that the debate over decriminalization, which has low support in the polls, will level the playing field on an issue where Democrats should have the political high ground...'
...,The Trump campaigns war room has been blasting out emails hitting the Democrats for supporting open borders and cycling footage of the candidates raising their hands on the question of decriminalization through its Twitter feed.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/452531-democrats-warn-push-for-border-crossing-decriminalization-will-prove-costly
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)why not between debates?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)believe all others are in favor...although Beto raised the problem of sex trafficking. Do some Democratic nominees understandthey need to win a general? They are handing Trump a win with this.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
liskddksil
(2,753 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Indygram
(2,113 posts)but they were much too high on the glee from believing he hurt Beto's campaign.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)I'm waiting for one of them to demand an apology from Biden for not re-lowering the speed limit to 55 mph. Lots of win in that one!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SouthernProgressive
(1,810 posts)One camp will be fighting on messaged boards and news channels to lower it to 35 while another group will be arguing to raise it to 115.
Hyperbole season is here.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
dalton99a
(81,515 posts)Trump will get another four years if Democrats openly advocate for decriminalizing border crossings
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JI7
(89,251 posts)he is coming off as desperate and willing to hurt the party to try to find a way to get some support.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)back immediately. The other continue to support what the right will call open borders.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
liskddksil
(2,753 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Indygram
(2,113 posts)And he is 100% true to what he really believes ALL of the time.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
liskddksil
(2,753 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Indygram
(2,113 posts)But hey...people are getting exactly what they paid for.
I suspect the celebration of Castro is about over now...
I wonder who he'll interrupt, attack and misrepresent at the next debate.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
7wo7rees
(5,128 posts)"In the debate, Castro interrupted ORourke to speak about a provision of federal law that makes it illegal for undocumented persons to enter the country. ORourke tried to give a longer, nuanced answer about comprehensive immigration reform, but Castro talked over him to make him look like an immigration bully, which is absurd.
That kind of fake attack is exactly what I would expect from a guy who folded when it was real. The idea being ballyhooed all over the news media, that Castro is a stud because he talked over ORourke, is something I would expect from Facebook, not the news media."
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided