Biden's support plummets in SC

[bluewater]

From the first post debate SC poll:

Democratic primary S.C.
Jun 29-Jul 4, 2019 C+ Change Research

Biden...... 27%
Harris..... 21%
Sanders.. 16%
Warren... 15%
Buttigieg.. 6%
Booker..... 6%
Gabbard.. 2%
O'Rourke 1%

Biden's lead is +6 in this poll, compared to +20 and +27 in two different polls back in June.


https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/

My Disclaimer: This is an early poll. No single poll result should be over emphasized, especially this early.

Earlier poll results for SC can be seen here:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/sc/south_carolina_democratic_presidential_primary-6824.html

[Thekaspervote]

1. Just asking, but didn't you post this a couple of hours ago?

[bluewater]

2. No , I most certainly did not.

I have been waiting for some new state polls to drop. This is the first SC poll since the middle of June, I believe.

Stunning turn-a-round, just look at the RCP Polls listings:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/sc/south_carolina_democratic_presidential_primary-6824.html

Biden was over +20 and +27 in those.

[Thekaspervote]

6. No need to be so upset, as I said I was just asking. Althou it was posted a few hrs ago

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287198012

[CurtEastPoint]

9. I know...reowwwww

[emmaverybo]

3. Biden still leads in S.C.

[LanternWaste]

4. "Plummet" is both inaccurate and melodramatic.

Subjective, poetic license is cool... as long as we admit (to ourselves if no one else) that's all it is.

[bluewater]

5. Biden now + 6, was +20 and +27 in two earlier SC polls.

Plummet might be an understatement.



https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/sc/south_carolina_democratic_presidential_primary-6824.html

[Thekaspervote]

7. Again, why so defensive? No one is arguing

[George II]

13. Biden wasn't +20 and +27 in any Change Research polls.

[George II]

12. This is the first Change Research poll released for SC....

There was nothing from which to "plummet" from!

As I noted below, 538 shows Change Research as an "online" poll with a slight bias for republicans, and rates them C+.

[bluewater]

14. The link to the all previous SC polls was given in the OP

Here it is again.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/sc/south_carolina_democratic_presidential_primary-6824.html

Biden clearly plummeted from the polling average of all other previous SC polls.

The polls are what the polls are.

[LanternWaste]

15. Again, 'plummet' is at best, misleading. At worst, dishonest

Your inaccurate, subjective and editorializing notwithstanding, words mean what words mean.

(dictionaries really can help us... I found that out in second grade)

[bluewater]

16. Plummet might be an understatement.

Harris has made huge in roads into Biden's support amongst African Americans.

It's starting to show.

[George II]

28. I used to ask my father, "how do you spell xxxxx?" He'd say "look it up in the dictionary"....

I said "how can I look it up if I don't know how to spell it?"

[George II]

17. I know that, but there are no other Change Research polls to compare this to....

On the other hand, the only other two showed Biden +20 in the first and +27 in the second. I didn't see any posts saying "Biden's support SOARS in SC".

This is just one single data point, nothing more and nothing less.

[Bradical79]

33. Even that's not true at all

The range of dates given for the average you're refering to in that realclearpolitics page is 5/31-7/10

It is not an "average of all other previous polls". It runs through yesterday.

[Thekaspervote]

18. Thanks for the clarification

[LakeArenal]

26. ❣️

[BannonsLiver]

19. Hey you

Don’t question UAWchild errr Bluwater’s poetic license.

[R B Garr]

24. Nailed it!

June was busy

[George II]

27. Bazinga!

[Cha]

30. lol!

[Drunken Irishman]

37. You better believe it.

[Tarheel_Dem]

38. Snap!

[Vegas Roller]

8. Inaccurate Title -- doesn't help Senator BS

[George II]

10. There are no previous "Change Research" polls to which this compares. I see on realclear....

...that I can't find any "Change Research" in the list of polls for any states or nationally.

538 shows Change Research as an "online" poll with a slight bias for republicans, and rates them C+.

[Tarheel_Dem]

21. +1. I'm not saying the race hasn't changed, but it hasn't changed as dramatically as the o.p.

would like us to think.

[tandem5]

11. Seems more like people are starting to pay attention to the Democratic field.

[Tarheel_Dem]

20. Change Research again?

[bluewater]

23. Take it up with 538, it's on their site.

[Tarheel_Dem]

25. And they rated "C+" for a reason. It's not reliable, with a "Republican lean".

[littlemissmartypants]

35. Brings new meaning to the words

Fuzzy math.

[Tarheel_Dem]

36. Exactly!

[StevieM]

22. Isn't this an on-line poll?

I don't believe that carries the same scientific weight.

All of these Change Research polls seem to be giving Buttigieg higher numbers than he is getting from other polling.

[SouthernProgressive]

29. You clearly have no idea how to read polls.

Your language here is nothing short of the bastardization of statistics.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

31. You can't compare polls by different pollsters.

?ve=1&tl=1

[DemocratSinceBirth]

32. Or not

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287198533

[Bradical79]

34. This thread is pure nonsense

You are comparing a new poll to a different polls. And the average of "past polls" you pointed to give a listed date that runs through yesterday, and an average of + 25.3. The newest poll there is still +21, which came out yesterday.