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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 04:20 PM Jul 2019

Sanders leads in NH, Biden & Harris tie for 4th place

New Hampshire
Jun 29-Jul 4, 2019
C+ Change Research

Sanders... 26%
Warren.... 24%
Buttigieg.. 14%
Harris...…. 13%
Biden...….. 13%

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-primaries/democratic/new-hampshire/

My Disclaimer: This is an early poll. No single poll result should be over emphasized, especially this early.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Sanders leads in NH, Biden & Harris tie for 4th place (Original Post) bluewater Jul 2019 OP
Biden's problem is that he's getting too much exposure. mobeau69 Jul 2019 #1
It's a problem if the more you're seen, the more your numbers drop (n/t) thesquanderer Jul 2019 #15
Change Research "Online Poll". Tarheel_Dem Jul 2019 #2
538 has it on their site, take it up with them. bluewater Jul 2019 #3
They include a lot of bad polls on their site, hence the rating. Aren't you least bit skeptical of a Tarheel_Dem Jul 2019 #4
The polls are what the polls are. bluewater Jul 2019 #6
I wouldn't be surprised to see that Mike Gravel has taken the lead in the next "Change Research" ... Tarheel_Dem Jul 2019 #7
They weed out the worst polls, the ones with F ratings. C+ is more like average. thesquanderer Jul 2019 #17
This was totally expected. TheCowsCameHome Jul 2019 #5
In a year? HerbChestnut Jul 2019 #9
I'll start taking polls seriously after the Christmas holiday season. calguy Jul 2019 #8
Since the New Hampshire Primary is Feb 11, I would agree this is an early poll. Sneederbunk Jul 2019 #10
NH is mr sanders turf. He won the 2016 primary and will probably win the 2020 as well Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #11
I don't love the poll, C+ rating and all but if Biden lost NH... Agschmid Jul 2019 #14
Here's a new ntl' poll just out. You probably already saw this one, but in your Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #12
Posted an OP on it! bluewater Jul 2019 #13
Biden at below 15% would mean no delegates. thesquanderer Jul 2019 #16
 

mobeau69

(11,145 posts)
1. Biden's problem is that he's getting too much exposure.
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 04:26 PM
Jul 2019

And there's another debate coming right up. Yikes!

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

thesquanderer

(11,989 posts)
15. It's a problem if the more you're seen, the more your numbers drop (n/t)
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 07:16 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Tarheel_Dem

(31,234 posts)
2. Change Research "Online Poll".
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 04:31 PM
Jul 2019
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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
3. 538 has it on their site, take it up with them.
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 04:35 PM
Jul 2019

OP has the link to 538 where the poll is from.

Here it is again:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-primaries/democratic/new-hampshire/

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Tarheel_Dem

(31,234 posts)
4. They include a lot of bad polls on their site, hence the rating. Aren't you least bit skeptical of a
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 04:37 PM
Jul 2019

poll with a C+ rating, when there are so many others that aren't subject to manipulation by one's supporters?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
6. The polls are what the polls are.
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 04:43 PM
Jul 2019

The OP gave 538's C+ rating.

Trying to spin that into a "junk" "click-bait" poll is just unseemly, I trust 538, not cutesy gifs of monkeys.

Attempting to minimize poll results that reflect badly on one's candidate is understandable, but ultimately pointless.

More polls are coming, I am sure that trends in the standings will become very clear.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Tarheel_Dem

(31,234 posts)
7. I wouldn't be surprised to see that Mike Gravel has taken the lead in the next "Change Research" ...
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 04:45 PM
Jul 2019

poll.



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

thesquanderer

(11,989 posts)
17. They weed out the worst polls, the ones with F ratings. C+ is more like average.
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 07:27 PM
Jul 2019

And they're not manipulatable, or they would be getting F if they were mentioned at all. Go ahead, try to manipulate the next Change Research poll if you think you can, try to find a way for you and your friends to get included.

A C+ poll may not be as presumed accurate as an A+ poll, but with these numbers, it would have to be way, way, way off for the basic message of Biden substantially trailing Sanders and Warren to not be true, off by an amount very unlikely for even a C+ poll.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
5. This was totally expected.
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 04:42 PM
Jul 2019


Another worthless poll.

Come back in a year or so, when it might mean something.
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
9. In a year?
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 05:00 PM
Jul 2019

When the primary is over?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

calguy

(5,313 posts)
8. I'll start taking polls seriously after the Christmas holiday season.
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 04:52 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Sneederbunk

(14,291 posts)
10. Since the New Hampshire Primary is Feb 11, I would agree this is an early poll.
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 05:03 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Thekaspervote

(32,773 posts)
11. NH is mr sanders turf. He won the 2016 primary and will probably win the 2020 as well
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 05:12 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
14. I don't love the poll, C+ rating and all but if Biden lost NH...
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 06:24 PM
Jul 2019

He’s in a tough spot.

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Thekaspervote

(32,773 posts)
12. Here's a new ntl' poll just out. You probably already saw this one, but in your
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 05:15 PM
Jul 2019

Previous posts you said you were anxiously awaiting new polls

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287198430#post1

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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
13. Posted an OP on it!
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 06:20 PM
Jul 2019
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287198468

It's a great A rated national poll that shows the FRONT RUNNER only at 26%, that's below his national polling average of 27 %

Warren had a strong showing in second place with 19%, ~5% higher than her national polling average.

Thanks for bringing it up!

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thesquanderer

(11,989 posts)
16. Biden at below 15% would mean no delegates.
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 07:19 PM
Jul 2019

Unexpected. Yeah it's just one poll, and it's early... but I'm still surprised to see it.

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