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Uncle Joe

(58,366 posts)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 12:07 PM Jul 2019

Bernie Sanders took Americans to Canada to prove a point



(snip)

The vial would cost around $340 in the United States, but it was $36 over the counter in Windsor, the result of more vigorous government price controls. Sanders said pharmaceutical executives who price-fix drugs should go to jail. Dozens of members of the press were on the trip; his campaign fundraised off it. Sunday’s trip was clearly political.

But it wasn’t political in the way Sanders usually is. He made no mention of Medicare-for-all. The Americans on the bus didn’t know Sanders’s campaign was paying for the trip when they signed up for it; the advocacy group Insulin for All, which helped find diabetics for the bus ride, designed it that way. Several of the participants didn’t even know what Sanders was about.

(snip)

On the bus Sunday, Sanders put this message in real terms. His messengers are people like Kathy Sego, an Indiana mother whose 22-year-old son Hunter has Type 1 diabetes, who came home having saved $10,000.

“$1,000 today got me six months of insulin for my son,” Sego said, crying, outside the pharmacy. “That’s still less than what we pay for one month in the United States.”

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https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/7/30/20729479/bernie-sanders-canada-medicare-for-all-drug-price-insulin



This is an excellent read.
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Bernie Sanders took Americans to Canada to prove a point (Original Post) Uncle Joe Jul 2019 OP
Bernie is correct James48 Jul 2019 #1
Of course it costs 10 times more in the U.S. sandensea Jul 2019 #2
Great Point! (n/t) corbettkroehler Jul 2019 #3
Thank you sandensea Jul 2019 #7
Those homes in The Hamptons don't buy themselves. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2019 #4
Houses on North Hero are pretty expensive, too. George II Jul 2019 #5
Also, if you call them "Grassroots" fundraisers they don't actually count as "fundraisers" ehrnst Jul 2019 #9
How about lobster sliders? George II Jul 2019 #10
Or "sponsorship opportunity gathering?" If you call them sponsors, instead of donors or superpacs, ehrnst Jul 2019 #11
Reminds me of that Bee Gees song, "It's only words.." George II Jul 2019 #13
I tell you. sandensea Jul 2019 #6
42 Uncle Joe Jul 2019 #8
Americans are overall cowardly when it comes to exploring ideas outside their comfort zone. theaocp Jul 2019 #12
FDR we have nothing to fear except what's happening now. Uncle Joe Jul 2019 #14
 

James48

(4,436 posts)
1. Bernie is correct
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 12:12 PM
Jul 2019

If you are concerned about medical costs in this country- a quick visit to Canada can put things into perspective.

No, it's not perfect. No system is. But Canada's way of dealing with drug companies is necessary, and a vital progressive move worth pursuing.

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sandensea

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2. Of course it costs 10 times more in the U.S.
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 12:17 PM
Jul 2019

Someone's got to pay for the CEO's lifestyle and the myriad executives' - to say nothing of the mistresses'.

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sandensea

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7. Thank you
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 02:31 PM
Jul 2019

Every gilded age seems to be more gilded than the last.

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Hassin Bin Sober

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4. Those homes in The Hamptons don't buy themselves.
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 01:51 PM
Jul 2019

Speaking of The Hamptons, doesn’t a lot of “fundraising” take place there?

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George II

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5. Houses on North Hero are pretty expensive, too.
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 01:56 PM
Jul 2019
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ehrnst

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9. Also, if you call them "Grassroots" fundraisers they don't actually count as "fundraisers"
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:34 AM
Jul 2019

I believe that the only thing distinguishing one from the other is the dreaded "canapes."

Corrupt, corporatist CANAPES are what really shows how ESTABLISHMENT a fundraiser is. For example If you serve TACOS in a San Francisco nightclub, that also makes it really, really NOT A FUNDRAISER IN THE HAMPTONS.



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George II

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10. How about lobster sliders?
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:51 AM
Jul 2019
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ehrnst

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11. Or "sponsorship opportunity gathering?" If you call them sponsors, instead of donors or superpacs,
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:01 AM
Jul 2019

then they're not one of those corrupting "MEGADONORS" at ALL. Completely different.

National Nurses United for Patient Protection, spent $1.3 million in the second half of the year, including donations totaling nearly $400,000 to a pair of other unlimited-spending groups supporting Sanders ― the California-based Progressive Kick received $245,000 and the Chicago-based Reclaim Chicago got $150,000. Most of the direct spending by National Nurses United for Patient Protection went towards ads, rallies and other voter outreach associated with a bus tour supporting Sanders, according to the report.

Sanders this month thanked the union’s members “for their support in my campaign” and called National Nurses United “one of the sponsors of my campaign and I appreciate that.”


https://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/bernie-sanders-super-pac-218478

Also, no one served them canapes, so there.

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George II

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13. Reminds me of that Bee Gees song, "It's only words.."
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:22 AM
Jul 2019
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sandensea

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6. I tell you.
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 02:30 PM
Jul 2019

And then you've got to win bidding wars on them with all the Wall Street banksters and Eurotrash.

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theaocp

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12. Americans are overall cowardly when it comes to exploring ideas outside their comfort zone.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:02 AM
Jul 2019

We don't dream big anymore because of fear. We fear fear itself. Single payer is smart and brave. Good luck to Bernie and Liz.

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Uncle Joe

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14. FDR we have nothing to fear except what's happening now.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:31 AM
Jul 2019

I agree with you theaocp.

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