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highplainsdem

(48,984 posts)
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 10:08 PM Aug 2019

Morning Consult poll has Tom Steyer at 6% in early primary states, only 2 points behind Harris

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287229084


Anyone have any idea why he's doing so well in those states (IA, NH, SC and NV)?


He isn't even in the top 9 in their national poll:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287229082
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Morning Consult poll has Tom Steyer at 6% in early primary states, only 2 points behind Harris (Original Post) highplainsdem Aug 2019 OP
To me, Steyer is a selfless urbane billionaire version of Bernie Sanders. Princetonian Aug 2019 #1
Impeachment. JoeOtterbein Aug 2019 #2
Warren has called for impeachment JI7 Aug 2019 #4
Yep! JoeOtterbein Aug 2019 #6
What are you talking about? Steyer put his money where his mouth is without any agenda. Princetonian Aug 2019 #7
nope. she made the easy to understand case for it. i wonder why he isn't JI7 Aug 2019 #8
Maybe he wants to run on something other than impeachment? Princetonian Aug 2019 #12
Maybe he doesn't subscribe to a plan in every pot at a time when so many existing social emmaverybo Aug 2019 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author JoeOtterbein Aug 2019 #17
I'm not feelin' it. ancianita Aug 2019 #3
Steyer grew up middle class and did not have anything handed to him. He worked hard to succeed. Princetonian Aug 2019 #9
He doesn't know how to give back, but give his loud opinion on ads. He's never held elected office ancianita Aug 2019 #16
I disagree, ancianita. Steyer started an organization focused on helping Democrats GOTV in 2018. Princetonian Aug 2019 #21
Me either. MBS Aug 2019 #38
Especially given all the real governing experience and knowledge our other candidates have. ancianita Aug 2019 #39
fuck no JI7 Aug 2019 #5
Steyer is also an environmentalist who believes climate change is the biggest challenge humans face. Princetonian Aug 2019 #10
Then why don't you start a Tom Steyer sub-forum in the Candidates Group? Give us something ancianita Aug 2019 #18
No thanks. I like Warren, O'Rourke, Bernie, Pete and Inslee alot but I support Joe Biden. Princetonian Aug 2019 #22
Tru tat. Steyer is a Great guy. But, the Dem party should be owning Impeachment. JoeOtterbein Aug 2019 #20
I heard that Nadler said the articles of impeachment are waiting until after the current break. Princetonian Aug 2019 #23
I heard it too. I'll gather enough from that for a bit of hope. JoeOtterbein Aug 2019 #24
It has been a pleasure, JoeOtterbein. Princetonian Aug 2019 #26
Nadler's timeline is "late fall" Princetonian Aug 2019 #27
He might be doing well in Iowa because he's been running teevee ads SharonClark Aug 2019 #11
If you don't mind me asking, what are Steyer's ads like? What issues do they touch on? Princetonian Aug 2019 #13
He's got a great ad running in NC cwydro Aug 2019 #32
I like it! I should search for Steyer's ads on YouTube. Princetonian Aug 2019 #36
I think its a very good ad. cwydro Aug 2019 #37
Several - mostly Need to Impeach but also the economy SharonClark Aug 2019 #40
Thanks for the reply! I was wondering if he was running a lot of ads. highplainsdem Aug 2019 #28
He is doing better in the early states, I would guess, because he is running the most ads there. StevieM Aug 2019 #14
Seriously? Just on his words? Weighed with the accomplishments of a governor, senators? ancianita Aug 2019 #19
I Have A Better Use For His Money colsohlibgal Aug 2019 #25
We tried that before TSIAS Aug 2019 #31
Is he selling t shirts? redstateblues Aug 2019 #29
He's advertising A LOT here as well. W_HAMILTON Aug 2019 #30
i don't trust De Blasio JI7 Aug 2019 #33
Where are all the Steyer supporters on DU? TSIAS Aug 2019 #34
Morning Consult is B- Junk crazytown Aug 2019 #35
 

Princetonian

(1,501 posts)
1. To me, Steyer is a selfless urbane billionaire version of Bernie Sanders.
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 10:14 PM
Aug 2019
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JoeOtterbein

(7,701 posts)
2. Impeachment.
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 10:18 PM
Aug 2019

He paid big bucks for the impeachment brand, when it could have been ours for free.

Sigh.

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JI7

(89,250 posts)
4. Warren has called for impeachment
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 10:27 PM
Aug 2019
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JoeOtterbein

(7,701 posts)
6. Yep!
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 10:30 PM
Aug 2019

Love her take. But he bought the brand.

sigh again

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Princetonian

(1,501 posts)
7. What are you talking about? Steyer put his money where his mouth is without any agenda.
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 10:34 PM
Aug 2019

I think he spent about $60 million helping Democrats GOTV in 2018 which no other donor did.

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JI7

(89,250 posts)
8. nope. she made the easy to understand case for it. i wonder why he isn't
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 10:35 PM
Aug 2019

supporting her. is his Male ego too big to support a woman ?

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Princetonian

(1,501 posts)
12. Maybe he wants to run on something other than impeachment?
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 10:42 PM
Aug 2019
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emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
15. Maybe he doesn't subscribe to a plan in every pot at a time when so many existing social
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 10:53 PM
Aug 2019

services and programs are broken, underfunded, non-functional, or endangered. And maybe he’s thinking about the large tax raises bold and new will lead to and the deficit, which we must grapple with, as it, like student debt keeps growing.

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ancianita

(36,058 posts)
3. I'm not feelin' it.
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 10:24 PM
Aug 2019

I don't mind that he runs as a Democrat with an impeachment agenda. But even HE knows that this is not a promise he can keep, that it's totally up to Congress.

This is insurgency by a rich guy who promises what rich people promise -- power FOR the people, when it's nothing of the kind.

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Princetonian

(1,501 posts)
9. Steyer grew up middle class and did not have anything handed to him. He worked hard to succeed.
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 10:35 PM
Aug 2019

And he is giving back now.

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ancianita

(36,058 posts)
16. He doesn't know how to give back, but give his loud opinion on ads. He's never held elected office
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 10:56 PM
Aug 2019

locally, statewide or anywhere, and he's no more fit to govern because he has good intentions than any other billionaires.

Has anyone here posted him in the candidates' section, to give his past record?
Website address?
Contact information?
Policy stances?
Is he listed in Open Secrets?
Ballotpedia?
On The Issues?

I'm just not feelin' it.

No more billionaires without governing experience and a serious campaign presence.

These polls are reactions. Pulse taking. He's buying up opinion to get on a stage.

I'll resent it if he buys his way onstage to pit his opinions against seasoned leadership.

This country's been through enough "learning on the job" richies.

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Princetonian

(1,501 posts)
21. I disagree, ancianita. Steyer started an organization focused on helping Democrats GOTV in 2018.
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 11:04 PM
Aug 2019

I do not have a bias against billionaires. If they are good men trying to do good for others and the nation, I like them. If they support the Democratic Party and are liberal, even better. Both he and his wife are good people who plan to give away their wealth like Bill Gates and Warren Buffett. Steyer said he was against the Chump tax cuts too. The guy may not check all your boxes but he is legit.

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MBS

(9,688 posts)
38. Me either.
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 10:17 AM
Aug 2019

I appreciate his activism, but no, not presidential material.
The last thing we need right now in the White House is another billionaire businessman with no previous government experience.

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ancianita

(36,058 posts)
39. Especially given all the real governing experience and knowledge our other candidates have.
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 10:19 AM
Aug 2019
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Princetonian

(1,501 posts)
10. Steyer is also an environmentalist who believes climate change is the biggest challenge humans face.
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 10:39 PM
Aug 2019

He has a non-profit organization that promotes green legislation.

I admire him for caring so much. Most billionaires do not give a sh*t about anything but themselves.

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ancianita

(36,058 posts)
18. Then why don't you start a Tom Steyer sub-forum in the Candidates Group? Give us something
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 11:01 PM
Aug 2019

more than comment promotion.

Give us the full monty on this candidate.

No one's stepped up here. It's not as if this isn't an important forum for Democratic information.

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Princetonian

(1,501 posts)
22. No thanks. I like Warren, O'Rourke, Bernie, Pete and Inslee alot but I support Joe Biden.
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 11:07 PM
Aug 2019
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JoeOtterbein

(7,701 posts)
20. Tru tat. Steyer is a Great guy. But, the Dem party should be owning Impeachment.
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 11:03 PM
Aug 2019

We waited too long. And even good money, in a system that favors wealth over compassion, should never, ever: be allowed to out-shout the citizens.

We waited too long. (again)

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Princetonian

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23. I heard that Nadler said the articles of impeachment are waiting until after the current break.
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 11:09 PM
Aug 2019
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JoeOtterbein

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24. I heard it too. I'll gather enough from that for a bit of hope.
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 11:23 PM
Aug 2019

Thanks for sticking with me on this one Prince T.

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Princetonian

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26. It has been a pleasure, JoeOtterbein.
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 11:35 PM
Aug 2019

We are all in this together.

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SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
11. He might be doing well in Iowa because he's been running teevee ads
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 10:39 PM
Aug 2019

for over a year. No other candidate has.

The question is, will people caucus for him?

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Princetonian

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13. If you don't mind me asking, what are Steyer's ads like? What issues do they touch on?
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 10:44 PM
Aug 2019
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cwydro

(51,308 posts)
32. He's got a great ad running in NC
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 04:31 AM
Aug 2019

He calls the resident a “fraud and a failure.”

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Princetonian

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36. I like it! I should search for Steyer's ads on YouTube.
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 07:47 AM
Aug 2019

Thanks for replying, cwydro. At the very least, his ad buys will drive undecided voters towards voting Democratic and relieve financial pressures on Democratic presidential candidates given Chump's tremendous edge in fundraising revenue.

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cwydro

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37. I think its a very good ad.
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 10:02 AM
Aug 2019

A man like Steyer calling the orangestain a fraud and a failure would drive him berser

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SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
40. Several - mostly Need to Impeach but also the economy
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 10:25 AM
Aug 2019

His ads are good and reinforce the Democratic message that will benefit the eventual Democratic nominee.

“I left my business to combat climate change, fix our democracy, and hold President Trump accountable,” Steyer said in one of his new ads. “Last year, we ran the largest youth voter registration in history, helping double turnout and win back the House.”

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highplainsdem

(48,984 posts)
28. Thanks for the reply! I was wondering if he was running a lot of ads.
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 12:25 AM
Aug 2019
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StevieM

(10,500 posts)
14. He is doing better in the early states, I would guess, because he is running the most ads there.
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 10:44 PM
Aug 2019

I like Steyer a lot. I am thinking about supporting him.

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ancianita

(36,058 posts)
19. Seriously? Just on his words? Weighed with the accomplishments of a governor, senators?
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 11:03 PM
Aug 2019
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colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
25. I Have A Better Use For His Money
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 11:29 PM
Aug 2019

He should start and fund a 100% Progressive TV Network and also but up radio stations and put on liberal talk. He should put his ego aside and go that way IMO.

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TSIAS

(14,689 posts)
31. We tried that before
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 03:55 AM
Aug 2019

Air America flopped. There isn't exactly a huge demand for Democratic talk radio.

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W_HAMILTON

(7,867 posts)
30. He's advertising A LOT here as well.
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 12:42 AM
Aug 2019

I've gotten a couple of flyers from him in the mail and have seen several commercials. Oddly enough, the only other Democratic candidate that I've seen a commercial for is de Blasio.

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JI7

(89,250 posts)
33. i don't trust De Blasio
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 04:32 AM
Aug 2019
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TSIAS

(14,689 posts)
34. Where are all the Steyer supporters on DU?
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 05:02 AM
Aug 2019

He's not the worst candidate we've got running. Will be interested to see if he can make the next debate.

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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
35. Morning Consult is B- Junk
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 07:17 AM
Aug 2019

Another 19% for Sanders. Why am I not surprised?

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