Democratic Primaries
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Not a single billionaire to date has donated to Sen. Bernie Sanders' run for the 2020 Democratic nomination, according to a new analysis, making him unique among primary frontrunners.
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"True to his campaign promise to take on the top one percent," Forbes reporter Giacomo Tognini, who broke the story, wrote, "Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders has not received any donations from billionaires."
Tognini's reporting is based on FEC data through August 1 which shows South Bend, Indiana Mayor Pete Buttigieg in front of the rest of the field with 23 billionaire donors to date. Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.) comes in second with 18; Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) is in third with 17. Sen. Michael Bennet (D-Colo.), currently polling at around one percent, is fourth with 15 billionaire donors and former Vice President Joe Biden, the polling front runner, wraps the top five with 13.
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A key difference between Sanders and his fellow candidates spurned by the billionaire class, in addition to being a top-tier contender for the nomination, is the Vermont senator's dominance in small dollar funding. As Common Dreams reported on August 2, Sanders has an overwhelming lead nationwide when it comes to generating individual donations.
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https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/08/06/no-billionaires-bernie-alone-among-democratic-frontrunners-sanders-gets-no-cash
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TexasTowelie
(112,204 posts)I am bound to come to some conclusion.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,362 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)....contribution limit is $2800 regardless of a person's wealth, he's not really winnowing down the contributor pool by very much.
Not taking contributions from billionaires is cosmetic at best.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,260 posts)Is there a difference between "won't accept" and "hasn't received"?
And what about the Ben and Jerry guy? He might not be worth a billion, but I bet he's worth 100 million. Isn't he a co-chair?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Response to George II (Reply #3)
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LiberalFighter
(50,928 posts)A progressive Facebook group is pushing Sanders in my state. S/He (most likely he) seems to think it is a big deal. Still pushing it even though I pointed out the flaw.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LiberalFighter
(50,928 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)Like you say, people are trying to make an issue out of a non-issue.
If each of the 23 billionaires that contributed to Buttigieg contributed the maximum, their total would be a mere $64,400.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Next thing you know he'll be boasting that he refuses to accept money from CORPORATIONS!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)Big sacrifice, dontcha think?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,362 posts)I have a bridge in Alaska to sell you.
I believe 3 of them own as much wealth as the bottom half of the nation.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,362 posts)but that doesn't change my point.
Money is power and there is all manner of way in our society to exert your influence if you have enough.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)....to support BS' campaign?
Hint: you don't.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,362 posts)but I do know Bernie has by far dominated in the number of contributors and his average I believe is around $19.00
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I also know that Bernie is the most aggressive candidate in taking on their stranglehold on American political and economic society so I believe the odds that any of them are covertly helping Bernie to be most minuscule.
Of course I can't entirely eliminate the possibility but I wouldn't bet on it.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)...over and above the legally allowable $2800 contributions (or $5600 if contributed as a married couple)?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,362 posts)over our government and in turn the nation at large.
This is not to say all billionaires would but I believe many if not most would.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)....than Sanders? Doesn't seem logical, does it?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,328 posts).....to presidential candidates is the only influence billionaires have on our economy and system of government.
Dont bother, Uncle Joe. Its a ridiculous argument not worth having.
I dont know if you have ever seen this. Its worth a read if you havent. Its been years since I read it. I will have to take another look.
Its a bit dated but nothing has really changed. When people talk about demographics or blue walls that will save us I just shake my head. This money is never going away no matter the demographic change. We see it with the current healthcare debate. These people will always be able to manufacture consent - by hook or by crook.
SPENDING MILLIONS TO SAVE BILLIONS
The campaign of the super wealthy to kill the estate tax
Members of a handful of super-wealthy families have quietly helped finance and coordinate a massive campaign to repeal the estate tax.
These families the members of which own the first and third largest privately held companies in the United States and hold about a 40 percent share in the worlds largest retailer, Wal-Mart stand to save a whopping $71.6 billion if their bid succeeds.
They have relied on their fortunes, the resources of their companies and their business connections to marshal a massive anti-estate tax juggernaut that has reported nearly a half-billion dollars in lobbying expenditures ($490.3 million) since 1998.
The families also have helped finance outside groups that have spent millions on fear-mongering ad campaigns intended to sway public opinion against the estate tax. These ads have shamelessly retailed myths that the estate tax is responsible for wrecking small businesses and family farms, and that regular Americans should fear a crushing tax bill when their loved ones die.
In fact, only about one-quarter of one percent of all estates will owe any estate taxes in 2006. And the American Farm Bureau, a member of the anti-estate tax coalition, was unable in 2001 to cite a single example of a family being forced to sell its farm because of estate tax liability and that was back when the exemption level was only a fraction of what it is today.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Vegas Roller
(704 posts)Even if he got $2800 from every billionaire, his average will at most go up to $19.50
It is just an empty talking point like the entire BS campaign.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,362 posts)public opinion and politicians in office?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Vegas Roller
(704 posts)Either their contributions are significant or they are not.
On one hand you are saying Bernie not having any billionaire contributions is highly significant. On the other hand you're saying they would exert influence whether they contribute or not.
It is empty rhetoric that doesn't compute.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,362 posts)as to where their interests are.
It's not 100% but it isn't insignificant.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)....candidates and not Sanders?
Here are the top Senators' progressive rankings (according to Progressive Punch):
1 Warren, Elizabeth
2 Markey, Ed
3 Harris, Kamala
4 Gillibrand, Kirsten
5 Merkley, Jeff
6 Booker, Cory
7 Sanders, Bernie
Two mentioned in the OP (Harris and Booker) are ranked higher than Sanders. So if they're doing so for them, it would make sense that they're exerting their money and influence on Sanders' campaign, inasmuch as he's closer to them ideologically than the two they're supporting.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)...(undocumented, of course) but not for Sanders?
Ever hear of Citizens United?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)lobbying. There are progressive lobbies that lobby Congress on behalf of everyday Americans. Maybe a good OP would be pointing them out and encouraging people to contribute money to them.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)...from simple donations to the greater issue of lobbying and influence.
I get it, though; the premise of the former was undercut rather quickly so an entirely new angle was necessary to maintain the pretense of a higher moral platform.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)...(estimates have been 500 to 600, let's use 550) that would be only $1,540,000. Considering that if he stays in to the end he'll receive $250M, he's rejecting 0.6% (less than one percent) of his total take. Not a huge sacrifice - he had to give back more than that in his last campaign.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,770 posts)Because analysis told you so?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)"Tognini's reporting is based on FEC data through August 1", but FEC data is only available through June 30 - candidates file their financials quarterly. The next due date is September 30.
No one other than the actual campaigns (not the FEC) knows what has been contributed between July 1 and August 1.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thank you George!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
questionseverything
(9,654 posts)instead of the few
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blm
(113,061 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,362 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Do you know anything about the history and past activism of those billionaires? To just throw something like that out as red meat is not right.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,770 posts)Billionaires?
Link please.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)So clearly she is evil 🦹♀️ - Susan Pritzker
https://www.forbes.com/sites/giacomotognini/2019/08/05/here-are-the-democratic-presidential-candidates-with-the-most-donations-from-billionaires/#1be2451e4c15
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tarc
(10,476 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,362 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Vegas Roller
(704 posts)I smell the blood of a billionaire.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,362 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)There are many very good rich people out there. Maybe the concern should be the character of the person the money comes from.
When I contribute to a candidate (always democrats), I do so expecting nothing in return. I don't even respond when their staff ask for opinions. Most people who contribute are like me.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BootinUp
(47,151 posts)Arent backing him either.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)With whats at stake its absolutely foolish for any candidate to refuse funding from legal sources thus harming their own chances and the chances of the party to prevail against this fascist shift our country is taking.
The whole notion that candidates are bought and paid for as a result of campaign support is absurd in the very least, excepting those few instances where there is evidence of quid pro quo as a result.
I think its more telling of the very flawed personal character of those who do have such low esteem of the integrity of the majority of our candidate base than it is of the character of our candidate base itself.
If its legal, and theres no evidence of quid pro quo, then the disgusting insinuation and condemnation is absurd. Period.
I refuse to question the character of any candidate that accepts legal and transparent funding, without any indication or evidence of quid pro quo, and will not allow my support be swayed by such ridiculous notions.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SouthernProgressive
(1,810 posts)None have received donations from a billionaire.
Another interesting point, for the most part, both of those I mentioned are polling about the same distance from Sanders as Sanders is to Biden.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided