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brooklynite

(94,598 posts)
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 01:47 PM Aug 2019

Stalled Sanders campaign orchestrated reboot after first debate

Politico

DES MOINES — A little over a month ago, despite putting on a brave face publicly, Bernie Sanders’ aides privately concluded that a shakeup was needed for his presidential campaign.

The Vermont senator had neglected to practice in mock sessions before the first 2020 debate, and failed to aggressively take on former Vice President Joe Biden on stage. On the trail, he was sticking to the old hits: His stump speech sounded remarkably similar to the one he delivered in his first presidential bid, and he gave a major address touting democratic socialism that mirrored his talk on the same subject in 2015. Even some of his diehard supporters wondered how he would distinguish himself in a crowded field of candidates, especially when many claimed to embrace his left-wing ideals.

Now, Sanders and his team have settled on a new strategy designed to make him stand out in the massive field: They’re betting that a renewed focus on his signature proposal of "Medicare for All" is the key to jump-starting his candidacy and overtaking Biden as the race ramps up this fall.

Sanders has raised more money and has more donors than any other candidate in the Democratic primary — upwards of $36 million from over 850,000 people. But as support in some national and early-state polling stalled or gradually eroded after Biden jumped in the race, it became clear that what worked in 2016 in a one-on-one primary against a moderate wouldn't necessarily succeed in a multi-candidate race with more than one progressive.
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Stalled Sanders campaign orchestrated reboot after first debate (Original Post) brooklynite Aug 2019 OP
Is "BS is a victim of a media conspiracy" part of the new messaging? lapucelle Aug 2019 #1
Awww. Poor put upon corporate media. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2019 #2
It's not the media crying and whining. lapucelle Aug 2019 #3
Poor Jeff. It's just so HARD when journos aren't being NICE. They should be NICE!! ehrnst Aug 2019 #13
"WaPo's being mean! And CNN and MSNBC and the New York Times!" lapucelle Aug 2019 #16
It's just TERRIBLE....Awful, I tell you! ehrnst Aug 2019 #17
No wonder poor Jeff is running around in circles! lapucelle Aug 2019 #20
Bezos is just HORRIBLE to Bernie! How could anyone even shop at Amazon after hearing about this? ehrnst Aug 2019 #22
Oopsie mcar Aug 2019 #24
LOL no kidding right! Eliot Rosewater Aug 2019 #27
Mahalo! George II Aug 2019 #21
LOL! NurseJackie Aug 2019 #32
You might want to see the source of the complaints, unless you're agreeing that BS is off base here. George II Aug 2019 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author 11cents Aug 2019 #4
Well, others have certainly gone that route. ehrnst Aug 2019 #12
Wow...Trump really said those things about WaPo based on a "Bezos is against me lapucelle Aug 2019 #18
Go figure. ehrnst Aug 2019 #19
Bazinga! George II Aug 2019 #25
sanders is not a victim of any conspiracy Gothmog Aug 2019 #26
Uh oh, affectionately known in geek circles as the "BSoD": George II Aug 2019 #5
It doesn't get to the screen this time Vegas Roller Aug 2019 #8
Once again you scooped me on my own daughter's article: JoeOtterbein Aug 2019 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Vegas Roller Aug 2019 #9
Good daughter you got there, wow! Eliot Rosewater Aug 2019 #28
Thanks! JoeOtterbein Aug 2019 #30
That's it? All he's got is pushing Medicare for all? Liz Warren didn't spend much time... TreasonousBastard Aug 2019 #7
Nah squirecam Aug 2019 #23
"Stalled" is overstating it. Vegas Roller Aug 2019 #10
Someone has a really thin skin...and it isn't Jeff Bezos. comradebillyboy Aug 2019 #11
He certainly doesn't adapt to new strategies or ideas very easily. That's gonna be a challenge. (nt) ehrnst Aug 2019 #15
I wonder if sitting alone at a luncheon is a tip off to how well one works with others Eliot Rosewater Aug 2019 #29
But it's become clear that what worked in 2016 against a moderate won't necessarily succeed Gothmog Aug 2019 #31
Seems there has already been another reboot. SouthernProgressive Aug 2019 #33
 

lapucelle

(18,275 posts)
1. Is "BS is a victim of a media conspiracy" part of the new messaging?
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 01:52 PM
Aug 2019
Washington Post editor responds to Bernie Sanders: Your 'conspiracy theory' is wrong

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/12/politics/bernie-sanders-washington-post/index.html


Washington Post editor calls Sanders claim about campaign coverage a 'conspiracy theory'

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/457191-washington-post-editor-calls-sanders-claim-about-campaign-coverage-conspiracy
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Hassin Bin Sober

(26,330 posts)
2. Awww. Poor put upon corporate media.
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 01:59 PM
Aug 2019
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Undecided
 

lapucelle

(18,275 posts)
3. It's not the media crying and whining.
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 02:02 PM
Aug 2019

It's Jeff Weaver.

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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
13. Poor Jeff. It's just so HARD when journos aren't being NICE. They should be NICE!!
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 02:56 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

lapucelle

(18,275 posts)
16. "WaPo's being mean! And CNN and MSNBC and the New York Times!"
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 03:06 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
17. It's just TERRIBLE....Awful, I tell you!
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 03:09 PM
Aug 2019







If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

lapucelle

(18,275 posts)
20. No wonder poor Jeff is running around in circles!
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 03:15 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
22. Bezos is just HORRIBLE to Bernie! How could anyone even shop at Amazon after hearing about this?
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 03:23 PM
Aug 2019












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Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
27. LOL no kidding right!
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 04:06 PM
Aug 2019
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George II

(67,782 posts)
14. You might want to see the source of the complaints, unless you're agreeing that BS is off base here.
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 02:57 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to lapucelle (Reply #1)

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
12. Well, others have certainly gone that route.
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 02:55 PM
Aug 2019









If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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lapucelle

(18,275 posts)
18. Wow...Trump really said those things about WaPo based on a "Bezos is against me
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 03:11 PM
Aug 2019

conspiracy theory"?

Seriously...WTF



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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
19. Go figure.
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 03:14 PM
Aug 2019

Old white millionaires just can't catch a break from the media, can they?

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Gothmog

(145,321 posts)
26. sanders is not a victim of any conspiracy
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 03:57 PM
Aug 2019
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George II

(67,782 posts)
5. Uh oh, affectionately known in geek circles as the "BSoD":
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 02:06 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Vegas Roller

(704 posts)
8. It doesn't get to the screen this time
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 02:48 PM
Aug 2019

Press the power button and you hear 3 beeps -- DRAM failure in BIOS.

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JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)
6. Once again you scooped me on my own daughter's article:
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 02:23 PM
Aug 2019

The senator is betting that a renewed focus on his signature proposal — 'Medicare for All' — is the key to jump-starting his candidacy and overtaking Joe Biden.

By HOLLY OTTERBEIN and ALEX THOMPSON 08/13/2019 09:50 AM EDT Updated 08/13/2019 11:56 AM EDT

snip

Thanks!
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Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
28. Good daughter you got there, wow!
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 04:07 PM
Aug 2019
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JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)
30. Thanks!
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 04:21 PM
Aug 2019

Of course I'm 100% biased, but she's the best!

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TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
7. That's it? All he's got is pushing Medicare for all? Liz Warren didn't spend much time...
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 02:43 PM
Aug 2019

on healthcare, but she did a hell of a lot more for the Average Joe before she got into the Senate than Sanders did in all those years in Washington. And if she gets to focus on healthcare, watch out!

I'm thinking she could do a lot more good as a Senator then President, but either way she's doing a lot more good than Sanders.

I would be extremely happy and relaxed if she got the nod. And just as happy if Harris got it.

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squirecam

(2,706 posts)
23. Nah
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 03:29 PM
Aug 2019

Joe/Amy is what I’m hoping it comes down to.

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Vegas Roller

(704 posts)
10. "Stalled" is overstating it.
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 02:51 PM
Aug 2019

BS should drop out and give refunds to the dreamers who naively thought socialism was just around the corner.

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comradebillyboy

(10,154 posts)
11. Someone has a really thin skin...and it isn't Jeff Bezos.
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 02:54 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
15. He certainly doesn't adapt to new strategies or ideas very easily. That's gonna be a challenge. (nt)
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 02:59 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
29. I wonder if sitting alone at a luncheon is a tip off to how well one works with others
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 04:08 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,321 posts)
31. But it's become clear that what worked in 2016 against a moderate won't necessarily succeed
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 06:08 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

SouthernProgressive

(1,810 posts)
33. Seems there has already been another reboot.
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 02:23 PM
Aug 2019

It's now all about attacking the media. They aren't able to stay on any kind of message.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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