Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumWhy Bernie Sanders is absolutely correct about the Washington Post -- and corporate media as a whole
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Written by Norman Solomon / Common Dreams August 14, 2019
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Many decades ago, the great media critic George Seldes observed: The most sacred cow of the press is the press itself. That remains true today.
Bernie Sanders set off the latest round of outraged denial from elite media this week when he talked to a crowd in New Hampshire about the tax avoidance of Amazon (which did not pay any federal income tax last year). Sanders went on to say: I wonder why the Washington Postwhich is owned by Jeff Bezos, who owns Amazondoesnt write particularly good articles about me. I dont know why. But I guess maybe theres a connection.
Sanders has fought explicitly and effectively to raise the wages of Amazon workers as well as millions of others. Yet the mass-media pretense is that the financial interests of the Posts owner have no effect on the newspapers coverage of Sanders.
Corporate denial is the name of that media game. Usually, expressed denials arent necessary. But theres nothing usual about Bernie Sanders, whos been willing to call out the biases and blind spots of corporate media since he entered politics.
more at link
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SouthernProgressive
(1,810 posts)First and foremost populists have to generate enormous distrust between the populace and the media. Trump and Sanders both hit that very very hard. It's a cornerstone of their campaign tactics.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)Some of us progressives see what is wrong about some owners of the media. Are you suggesting we should not speak up?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SouthernProgressive
(1,810 posts)And Sanders would be the first person to tell you that your daughter is not independent in her writing. Sander is actually passionate about that aspect.
There is zero doubt that Trump and Sanders are pushing their populism by way of generating distrust among media outlets and the populace. It is the cornerstone of populism.
I recently read a piece by your daughter where she highlighted how Sanders has been floundering and is trying to change things around. I was really taken back considering she is a Sanders surrogate working on the inside at Politico.
She highlighted how he had become so full of himself that he even refused to do proper debate prep.
If it wasn't so toxic I would view Sanders attacks on the free press to be funny. This is a guy who has surrogates all over inside of the media and even has his own media outlet.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=239022
Not sure why you think your daughters employment is different. You will then claim people get it when it comes to the sons and daughters of others. Just not yours. Politico is owned by Capitol News Company.
https://twitter.com/hollyotterbein?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)LOL!!!!!!!!
Thanks for the laugh!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SouthernProgressive
(1,810 posts)It needs fewer candidate surrogates working the inside of corporate media conglomerates.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)Now, if I can just get Holly to agree with me that she needs to bring a half-bushel of steamed crabs home this weekend!
(I'm still giggling about the thought of all the times Holly has been furiously debating me about just about everything!)
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BannonsLiver
(16,527 posts)They espouse the infotainment horse race narrative and dumbing down of our politics as much as any other mainstream media outlet. Im not exactly sure why youd think they are immune from that criticism, either.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
KPN
(15,668 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)LOLy little smiley laughing too!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(145,701 posts)Link to tweet
There are a few problems with this claim. The first is that its patently untrue.
Within about 20 minutes of searching on Lexis Nexis, I was able to find at least four documented examples of Sanders being asked what he would do about income inequality:
CBSs John Dickerson on to July 12, 2015: A lot of the issues you have mentioned both on wages and income inequality are going to be the topic of a speech by Hillary Clinton on Monday. How do you distinguish yourself from her for Democratic voters out there?
CNNs Anderson Cooper on Oct. 14, 2015: Senator Sanders, lets talk about income inequality. Wages and incomes are flat. Youve argued that the gap between rich and poor is wider than at any time since the 1920s. Weve had a Democratic president for seven years. What are you going to be able to do that President Obama didnt?
MSNBCs Al Sharpton on March 15, 2016: What do you say to black and Latino voters who you need to support you in November if you`re the nominee What do you say will be their particular way of dealing with racial inequality in the fight about income inequality?
And CNNs Wolf Blitzer did a lengthy interview with Sanders on May 19, 2015, the first one-third of which was devoted to his views on income inequality:Link to tweet
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)What's up? Something special happen today?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(145,701 posts)you are using his line. As a Texas Democrat, I do my best to keep away from all things related to Louie.
Link to tweet
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Eliot Rosewater
(31,131 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,701 posts)This is an interesting article https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/02/26/ive-reported-bernie-sanders-years-free-press-cant-give-him-what-he-wants/
He would not be happy with anything that did not basically publish his press release in its entirety word for word, quote for quote, said Graff, who spent nearly three decades reporting in Vermont for the AP.
Back when Sanders held regular news conferences in Vermont its been a few years he typically refused to answer questions unrelated to his chosen topic of the day. Thats problematic for local reporters, who rarely have the opportunity to quiz the members of Congress they cover without spokespeople running interference.
At a 1985 forum on the media, the late Vermont political columnist Peter Freyne complained to Sanders, then the mayor of Burlington, that he had reneged on his promise to hold regular press conferences, pointing out that When asked a question you dont want to answer, you leave the room.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)That's it. You guys could probably give yourselves a nice break for a few weeks, or months. He'd be 8% when you return to it. And if he were 7%, would it matter?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)...why the constant need by some Dems to defeat him?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
comradebillyboy
(10,179 posts)just about any other Democratic candidate.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
KPN
(15,668 posts)correct about this. Having been a die-hard Bernie supporter for the 2016 primary, I can honestly say that the Washington Post was pretty darned biased against him at that time, especially Chris Cillizza. There's also no question in my mind at least that there has been a constant drumbeat to undermine Sanders by what strikes me as the Democratic Party establishment over the entire timeframe since and during the last primary. Part of that is just the normal political process, but clearly a large part of it is based on the internal divide within the party around "economics". For me personally, that is troubling.
What has always attracted me to the Democratic Party is it's tolerance. But sometimes my attraction gets tested.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)...but the political-class distaste of him makes him seem more powerful than he is. And that does make me want to support him again this primary.
But I'm still on the fence for now!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)Sanders' comments make him sound like Spiro Agnew.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)"Medicare for All"?
Uh?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)I think that he's letting his anger at WaPo for reporting on the labor dispute in his campaign staff go a bit too far.
Calling Marty Baron a pawn of Bezos doesn't show much understanding of who Marty Baron is.
He's drawing some unflattering comparisons to Trump, who also tries to discredit WaPo...
https://www.npr.org/2019/08/13/750800062/sanders-again-attacks-amazon-this-time-pulling-in-the-washington-post
"...[T]he failing New York Times and the Amazon Washington Post do nothing but write bad stories even on very positive achievements - and they will never change!" President Trump tweeted last year.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2019/08/13/bernie-sanders-criticizes-washington-post-coverage-baron-responds/1994986001/
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/13/bernie-sanders-bezos-washington-post-1461360
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,466 posts)Robert Allbritton (born February 16,[1] 1968 or 1969[2]) is the owner and founder of Capitol News Company, the parent company of Capitol Hill political newspaper and website Politico.[3]
Allbritton also served as the Chairman and CEO of Allbritton Communications, which owned several ABC-affiliated television stations in Washington, D.C.[4] Allbritton was previously the CEO of Riggs National Corporation, the parent of Riggs Bank, from 2001 to 2005.[5] Allbritton has been described by The New Republic as having "reshaped the way we follow politics."[6] He is a Trustee of the Lyndon Baines Johnson Library and Museum.[7]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Allbritton
Riggs Bank was a bank headquartered in Washington, D.C. For most of its history, it was the largest bank headquartered in that city. On May 13, 2005, after the exposure of several money laundering scandals, the bank was acquired by PNC Financial Services.
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The bank was investigated for several money laundering scandals, including going to great lengths to allow former Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet to hide his fortune after his accounts were subjected to asset freezing and for unknowingly allowing the hijackers involved in the September 11 attacks to transfer money due to lax controls at the bank.
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On May 13, 2005, after the exposure of several money laundering scandals, the bank was acquired by PNC Financial Services.[11][12][13]
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Hiding the fortune of Augusto Pinochet
Further information: Augusto Pinochet's arrest and trial
Augusto Pinochet, the former dictator of Chile, was widely accused of corruption, illegal arms sales, and torture. In 1994, Riggs officials invited Pinochet to open an account at the bank. In 1998, Pinochet was arrested in the United Kingdom for possible extradition to Spain, and his accounts were subjected to asset freezing by court orders. By using a shell company and hiding accounts from federal regulators, Riggs illegally allowed Pinochet to hide and retain access to much of his fortune.[18]
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The disclosure of the Riggs accounts reignited the case against General Pinochet. A ruling that he was not mentally competent to stand trial was overturned when it was proven that the general himself had orchestrated some of the huge transactions. In 2004, Pinochet was ordered to stand trial for crimes against humanity, and additional claims of mental and physical incompetence were overruled. However, Pinochet died in December 2006 before being judged. In September 2007, Pinochet's widow and five children were indicted by a Chilean court on charges including embezzlement.[20]
In January 2005, the bank pleaded guilty and agreed to pay $16 million in fines for helping Pinochet.[21][22] The bank and the Albritton family, which controlled the bank, agreed to pay $9 million to victims of the regime of Pinochet.[23][24] The bank also paid $8 million to settle the legal case in Spain.[25]
Embezzlement of oil revenues from Equatorial Guinea
In July 2004, the United States Senate published a report that showed that at least $35 million was siphoned off by Teodoro Obiang Nguema Mbasogo, the long-time dictator of Equatorial Guinea, from the account held by the Embassy of Equatorial Guinea in Washington, D.C. at Riggs.[26][27]
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In May 2004, the bank was fined $25 million by the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency and the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network for violations of money-laundering laws.[29][30][31]
A long running Justice Department investigation was wrapped up quickly in February 2005 with Riggs pleading guilty and paying a $16 million fine for violations of the U.S. Bank Secrecy Act after a Wall Street Journal article reported December 31, 2004, that Riggs had extensive ties to the CIA, including that several bank officials held security clearances. Also in February 2005, the bank and Albritton family agreed to pay $9 million to Pinochet victims for concealing and illegally facilitating movement of Pinochet money out of Britain.[32] No similar payment has been made with regard to Equatorial Guinea, as reported in this weekly Anti-Money Laundering Report from the Fair Finance Watch The abuses at Riggs led Congress to consider forming a single agency with greater authority to enforce money laundering and currency control laws. Daniel E. Stipano, deputy chief counsel for the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, said, "What happened with Riggs is unacceptable. It cannot be repeated."[33] Riggs admitted criminal liability for failing to prevent money laundering.[34]
Acquisition by PNC
In the wake of the money laundering scandals, members of the Albritton family resigned from the bank board. On February 10, 2005, PNC Financial Services agreed to acquire Riggs.[35] The merger was completed on May 13, 2005,[36] and the Riggs name was retired and all Riggs branches became PNC Bank branches three days later.[37] Soon after the merger's completion, PNC phased out the scandal-plagued embassy business.[35]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riggs_Bank
I will take Common Dreams any day over Politico.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Coming from someone who believes that Jacobin, Greenwald and YT are reliable sources of unbiased data, I'm not surprised.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,466 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
zentrum
(9,865 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I'm guessing that as his numbers get worse, his allegations about unfair treatment will get much, much louder.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)...they should blame them. Look how they sold us Trump in 16.
We all need to be ready to push back really hard this time.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Uncle Joe
(58,466 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)And when he reacted to it publicly, he stepped in it, publicly criticizing his union staffers for exercizing their union-given right to talk to the press about their employment issues.
So he tries to discredit WaPo.
That looks vengeful, petty and certainly doesn't confer credibility in the reasons one criticizes the media.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,701 posts)Link to tweet
Sanderss current candidacy doesnt provide that same narrative interest. Hes just one candidate among many, running somewhere between second and fourth in every poll a part of the big story, to be sure, but not the primary protagonist/antagonist, depending on the framing. If during the 2016 primaries he was getting something like half the coverage, most of it positive, now he can expect only to get a much smaller portion of a pie that has been sliced into many more pieces. Is that fair? Perhaps not, but youd have to define what fair coverage would look like for all the candidates to say for sure.
Its not as though Sanders is being ignored. I did a search on The Posts website and found 28 articles and videos mentioning him that appeared just this Monday and Tuesday. FiveThirtyEight monitors the volume of cable news coverage of the candidates, and what you see is that coverage pretty well tracks poll standing: Joe Biden gets the most, followed by Sanders, Warren and Kamala D. Harris clustered together. You might be able to make a case for why thats wrong, but you cant say its particularly unfair to Sanders.
And heres the thing: Im sure Sanders knows how this all works. Hes a smart guy, and he has been around for a long time. In most of the comments he and his aides make on this topic, you can tell they understand the incentives and proclivities of the media perfectly well.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)...did you write the above?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(145,701 posts)The Washington Post is a truly great paper and has very helpful information.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)But I don't subscribe, so I can't click. I appreciate any clips!
And I note that you did not reply, "no."
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(145,701 posts)Senator Warren has just as liberal or even more liberal platform compared to sanders and she is not being hurt in the polls or getting bad press coverage
Link to tweet
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden