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struggle4progress

(118,290 posts)
Sat Aug 17, 2019, 10:47 AM Aug 2019

Fox poll: in trouble against every top Democratic challenger

BY ALEXANDRA HUTZLER
ON 8/16/19 AT 9:54 AM EDT

... The poll found that 39 percent of registered voters supported Trump in his re-election bid when he was being challenged by Sanders, Harris or Warren. But the three liberal senators had more support. The survey found Sanders winning over Trump with 48 percent, Harris winning over Trump with 46 percent and Warren winning over Trump with 45 percent.

But it was the former vice president who would beat Trump by the widest margin in a hypothetical head-to-head matchup, according to the poll. Biden had 50 percent support among registered voters surveyed, compared to Trump's 38 percent.

The poll also found that just 42 percent of voters viewed Trump favorably, while 56 percent held an unfavorable opinion. The survey contacted just over 1,000 voters and was conducted from August 11 to August 13. The margin of error was 3 percent for all registered voters ...

https://www.newsweek.com/fox-poll-shows-trump-trouble-every-top-democrat-2020-1454718

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Fox poll: in trouble against every top Democratic challenger (Original Post) struggle4progress Aug 2019 OP
We see all these wonderful polls... UncleTomsEvilBrother Aug 2019 #1
I go into all kinds of neighborhoods. The minority neighborhoods are often friendlier places struggle4progress Aug 2019 #2
Nice...nice! UncleTomsEvilBrother Aug 2019 #3
HRC won by millions of votes. MrsCoffee Aug 2019 #10
Too many millions of votes in the wrong state. elocs Aug 2019 #12
We must rid ourselves of the electoral college... Joe941 Aug 2019 #13
If you'd been here longer you might never ask that question. LakeArenal Aug 2019 #6
Do you mean... UncleTomsEvilBrother Aug 2019 #7
That makes two of us confused. LakeArenal Aug 2019 #8
You're seriously... UncleTomsEvilBrother Aug 2019 #9
I see you as defining them. LakeArenal Aug 2019 #14
I'm simply applying the definition... UncleTomsEvilBrother Aug 2019 #15
It's a common coinage to capitalize Black. BlueWI Aug 2019 #16
Why should we be surprised? If someone all but tell you he will pick your pocket, and then does it, elocs Aug 2019 #11
Who here thinks it is beneath Fox to put up falsified poll numbers... Thomas Hurt Aug 2019 #4
They would just prove their stupidity as usual. efhmc Aug 2019 #5
 
1. We see all these wonderful polls...
Sat Aug 17, 2019, 10:51 AM
Aug 2019

...and get surprised by the toll voter suppression takes on elections when we lose.

I'm wondering if we do nothing because it means that DEMS (including the Black and Brown ones) would have to actually go into Black and Brown neighborhoods to register and mobilize voters.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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struggle4progress

(118,290 posts)
2. I go into all kinds of neighborhoods. The minority neighborhoods are often friendlier places
Sat Aug 17, 2019, 10:54 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 
3. Nice...nice!
Sat Aug 17, 2019, 11:02 AM
Aug 2019

That's the only way the voter suppression laws are going to be fought in swing states and red states. I don't see a major push by DEMS to do it, though.

HRC was winning in the polls, but DEMS and the media conveniently ignored the voters suppression impact.

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MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
10. HRC won by millions of votes.
Sat Aug 17, 2019, 03:45 PM
Aug 2019

The Dems ignored nothing.

It took treason to beat her.

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elocs

(22,582 posts)
12. Too many millions of votes in the wrong state.
Sat Aug 17, 2019, 08:51 PM
Aug 2019

Too bad that some of those extra millions of Clinton votes in California couldn't have been applied to her totals in Wisconsin and Michigan and Pennsylvania. Then she would have won an electoral victory, which is how we elect our presidents.

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Joe941

(2,848 posts)
13. We must rid ourselves of the electoral college...
Sat Aug 17, 2019, 10:09 PM
Aug 2019

It seems somewhat racist in the people's who vote doesnt count as much.

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Undecided
 

LakeArenal

(28,819 posts)
6. If you'd been here longer you might never ask that question.
Sat Aug 17, 2019, 01:24 PM
Aug 2019

There have been tons of threads on Du discussing who is doing what where.

Both private and public citizens alike.
I can only speak for my self, but just what are suggesting as to why nobody would canvas or get out the vote in any neighborhood “including Black and Brown ones”?

Also curious as to why you would use capital letters to describe “Black” neighborhoods?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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7. Do you mean...
Sat Aug 17, 2019, 02:50 PM
Aug 2019

...if I'd been here posting longer? I read this site long before I registered for it. I may have been here longer than you have. I'm confused. You say you're "speaking" for yourself, but then you ask a question. I truly don't understand how I'm supposed to respond.

I'm in a bit of an hurry, but I'll have to suggest you use Google to research "Black" being used in the context of race and not color and why it should be capitalized in certain instances.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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LakeArenal

(28,819 posts)
8. That makes two of us confused.
Sat Aug 17, 2019, 03:01 PM
Aug 2019

Because there is no such thing as Black Or Brown neighborhoods.

And I will tell you there is nothing more intimidating than canvassing for Dems orGOTV than in rural Midwest predominantly white areas. But they aren’t
“White” neighborhoods by any stretch of the imagination.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 
9. You're seriously...
Sat Aug 17, 2019, 03:17 PM
Aug 2019

...trying to tell people how they are supposed to define themselves? I would imagine you're confused because your approach to the definition of a Black neighborhood seems to be limited.

Look, I am not even trying to get in an argument here. Your issue seems to be with semantics, but you shouldn't take that up with me. Just as polls give us stats about Black voters, they are talking about Black people who often live in Black neighborhoods.

I wasn't even focusing on rural midwest areas because those aren't the areas hardest hit by voter suppression. Oh, and yes, those rural midwest areas are often full of white neighborhoods.

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LakeArenal

(28,819 posts)
14. I see you as defining them.
Sat Aug 17, 2019, 10:43 PM
Aug 2019

If you see it as arguing, I don’t.

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15. I'm simply applying the definition...
Sat Aug 17, 2019, 11:14 PM
Aug 2019

...that we use. I'm part of the neighborhoods. You flat out denied that the neighborhoods exist. I am informing you that that's what we call ourselves (Black people do).

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BlueWI

(1,736 posts)
16. It's a common coinage to capitalize Black.
Tue Aug 20, 2019, 01:56 AM
Aug 2019

I have done it in published writing sometimes.

I believe that you are a fellow Wisconsin Democrat, and I would recommend a bit more restraint in how you raise this point. Telling a person of color there's no such thing as a Black neighborhood is a "whitesplain" and should be avoided.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

elocs

(22,582 posts)
11. Why should we be surprised? If someone all but tell you he will pick your pocket, and then does it,
Sat Aug 17, 2019, 08:48 PM
Aug 2019

are you a victim or a chump?

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Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
4. Who here thinks it is beneath Fox to put up falsified poll numbers...
Sat Aug 17, 2019, 11:44 AM
Aug 2019

to try to rile the base and lull the Democrats?

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efhmc

(14,726 posts)
5. They would just prove their stupidity as usual.
Sat Aug 17, 2019, 12:43 PM
Aug 2019
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