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saljr1

(273 posts)
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 05:37 PM Aug 2019

Jill Biden says consider elect-ability?

I respect Mr Biden and his wife but i believe there at least 6 candidates in the primaries that can and will beat Trump. I did not see or read the quote but that sounds a little desperate to me as Bidens lead shrinks.I predicted that Warren would continue to rise in the polls from her hard work and clear policies reaching out to as many people as she can. Persistence, energy and she's running a great campaign.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Jill Biden says consider elect-ability? (Original Post) saljr1 Aug 2019 OP
Why would you criticize a "quote" that you admittedly never saw or read? hlthe2b Aug 2019 #1
She just said it MSNBC saljr1 Aug 2019 #4
THanks elleng Aug 2019 #26
Jill Biden emphasizes electability in 2020 race: 'You've got to look at who's going to win this Celerity Aug 2019 #43
"Your bottom line has to be that we have to beat Trump" Gothmog Aug 2019 #50
Just what does "electability" mean? MontanaMama Aug 2019 #2
It is. DURHAM D Aug 2019 #7
Interesting Point... sacto95834 Aug 2019 #37
people who don't research, vote on name recognition Skittles Aug 2019 #20
That seems to be a subtext loyalsister Aug 2019 #48
She seems like a nice woman and it is commendable that she is promoting her husband. CentralMass Aug 2019 #3
lol fail , I did not see or read the quote ! stonecutter357 Aug 2019 #5
but I want you to think about your candidate, his or her electability... progressoid Aug 2019 #19
Big oof. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2019 #6
Ouch! She acknowledges that Joe could be doing better on health care True Dough Aug 2019 #8
Maybe she should have saved this argument for GOTV. It's a little early for this tactic. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2019 #9
Well DownriverDem Aug 2019 #10
I'm not sure that that is the best tactic. n/t demmiblue Aug 2019 #13
I am sure it is not. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2019 #15
Well. That's a good twitter feed. Illuminating. . Autumn Aug 2019 #16
Basically she is saying you might think your candidate is better on (pick on issue) you favor Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #22
Wow! melman Aug 2019 #24
"I think I can, I think I can..." DemocracyMouse Aug 2019 #11
A well spoken candidate who will in all likelihood lose a general...Biden can win. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #21
You haven't seen the latest polls then. DemocracyMouse Aug 2019 #39
I have actually...Biden leading in state polls and national polls...in fact the only one showing Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #45
Petty.. a intelligent woman stumps for her husband...that's all ya got? Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #12
Joe Biden and 'electability' has been mentioned many times ... left-of-center2012 Aug 2019 #14
+1 K&R onetexan Aug 2019 #23
She is correct - supporters of Warren and Sanders are convinced that their candidates have a better Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #17
No I think you are correct and that is what they believe! And the op is certainly entitled to their Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #29
Oh please... Joe941 Aug 2019 #40
I do not...in my opinion, it is Biden or Trump. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #18
Dr Biden is supporting her husband, last I looked there's nothing wrong with that FloridaBlues Aug 2019 #25
Does hyphenating elect-ability have a special meaning? Control-Z Aug 2019 #27
Me neither. Not once. Very strange. RelativelyJones Aug 2019 #28
Would Humphrey have done better than McGovern who got crushed in 1972? elocs Aug 2019 #30
Really? peggysue2 Aug 2019 #31
Stop - you are making too much sense! Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #33
A less than stirring recommendation from his wife is not going to win voters over to his side. LonePirate Aug 2019 #32
Exactly! Andy823 Aug 2019 #36
Hillary Clinton kidnapped the Lindbergh baby? mcar Aug 2019 #34
Electability is a Good Thing especially Cha Aug 2019 #35
Video: demmiblue Aug 2019 #38
Joe is electable and so is his healthcare plan. You go Joe and Jill! emmaverybo Aug 2019 #41
OMG! Jill Biden says voters should consider electability! Oh, the horror! highplainsdem Aug 2019 #42
Jill Biden is amazing Gothmog Aug 2019 #44
I love Jill biden...thanks for posting this...she is his best secret weapon...I hope a bunch of Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #46
Of course she will say that, he's her husband. Autumn Aug 2019 #47
Trump campaign is clearly afraid of facing Joe Biden and the argument comparing Trump to Obama. Gothmog Aug 2019 #49
This got picked up by The Onion BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #51
Silly DarthDem Aug 2019 #52
Joe Biden still bests fellow Democrats on electability, polls show Gothmog Sep 2019 #53
 

hlthe2b

(102,292 posts)
1. Why would you criticize a "quote" that you admittedly never saw or read?
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 05:39 PM
Aug 2019

Why would you not, instead, track down the actual quote before commenting?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

saljr1

(273 posts)
4. She just said it MSNBC
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 05:45 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Celerity

(43,408 posts)
43. Jill Biden emphasizes electability in 2020 race: 'You've got to look at who's going to win this
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 10:28 PM
Aug 2019
election'

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/19/politics/jill-biden-joe-biden-beat-donald-trump/index.html


Jill Biden: 'You may like another candidate better' but husband is most 'electable'
"I want you to think about your candidate, his or her electability, and who’s going to win this race," the former second lady said.


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/jill-biden-you-may-another-candidate-better-husband-most-electable-n1044151
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,321 posts)
50. "Your bottom line has to be that we have to beat Trump"
Tue Aug 20, 2019, 03:59 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MontanaMama

(23,322 posts)
2. Just what does "electability" mean?
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 05:40 PM
Aug 2019

I'm genuinely asking this. It seems like a dog whistle and I don't like it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DURHAM D

(32,610 posts)
7. It is.
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 05:51 PM
Aug 2019

The question is only asked about women or minority candidates.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

sacto95834

(393 posts)
37. Interesting Point...
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 07:30 PM
Aug 2019

I never really thought about it, but you're right. "Elect-ability" is most discussed about women and minority candidates, including white guys who happened to be gay. Seems nobody talks about if Beto or Delaney are electable.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
20. people who don't research, vote on name recognition
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 06:21 PM
Aug 2019

being white and male HUGE bonus points

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
48. That seems to be a subtext
Tue Aug 20, 2019, 12:33 PM
Aug 2019

The part about how well he was able to work with the GOP during Obama's presidency sounds very much like a dog whistle to me. As in putting "Obama's policies in the hands of a white man" is going to make the GOP agreeable again. The really sad thing is that there may be some truth to it. As in - we have a better chance of winning if the bigots feel comfortable enough to allow a few advancements as long as they see a polite acceptance of a cultural norm which presumes that white males are the superior population and should be in charge.
The woman we nominated was clearly electable and didn't win because of the outdated electoral college. A black man was elected despite that systemic flaw.

Electability can only be measured after the votes have been counted. It's true that it is a measure which has favored white men. I don't think that necessarily makes it the strongest formula for success, though.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
3. She seems like a nice woman and it is commendable that she is promoting her husband.
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 05:41 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

stonecutter357

(12,697 posts)
5. lol fail , I did not see or read the quote !
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 05:47 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

progressoid

(49,991 posts)
19. but I want you to think about your candidate, his or her electability...
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 06:20 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

True Dough

(17,305 posts)
8. Ouch! She acknowledges that Joe could be doing better on health care
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 05:52 PM
Aug 2019

Not exactly a minor issue. Maybe she should have picked immigration or gun control.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,357 posts)
9. Maybe she should have saved this argument for GOTV. It's a little early for this tactic.
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 05:54 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

DownriverDem

(6,229 posts)
10. Well
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 05:56 PM
Aug 2019

We have a long way to go.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

demmiblue

(36,865 posts)
13. I'm not sure that that is the best tactic. n/t
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 06:04 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Autumn

(45,107 posts)
16. Well. That's a good twitter feed. Illuminating. .
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 06:11 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
22. Basically she is saying you might think your candidate is better on (pick on issue) you favor
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 06:23 PM
Aug 2019

but you need to consider electability...and she is right.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
11. "I think I can, I think I can..."
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 05:59 PM
Aug 2019

What about Biden's electability? Seems to me he's a ticking gaff bomb. (That's not a smear, it's a common observation that he often speaks before considering the impact of his words...)

Elizabeth Warren, in contrast, seems to be an exceptionally well-spoken and passionate politician. It has lifted her up as she travels from a struggling family in Oklahoma, to a Harvard Professor, to designer of the Consumer Protection Bureau, to a major US Senator, to President. She has the aura of inevitability.

Warren is like the train pushing itself up the hill in the Children's story "The Little Engine that could."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
21. A well spoken candidate who will in all likelihood lose a general...Biden can win.
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 06:21 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
39. You haven't seen the latest polls then.
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 08:03 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
45. I have actually...Biden leading in state polls and national polls...in fact the only one showing
Tue Aug 20, 2019, 08:53 AM
Aug 2019

anyone else leading was a say anything you want poll for bucks...In fact this morning in a CNN poll, Biden is double digits ahead of the the closest candidate...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Thekaspervote

(32,778 posts)
12. Petty.. a intelligent woman stumps for her husband...that's all ya got?
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 06:00 PM
Aug 2019

Why not just stick with the positives about your candidate of choice.

This kind of op doesn’t change the hearts and minds of voters

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
14. Joe Biden and 'electability' has been mentioned many times ...
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 06:05 PM
Aug 2019

Joe Biden and ‘electability’ has been mentioned many times,
by many people,
in print and in/on the news,
for months.

It did not originate today,
by Jill Biden.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

onetexan

(13,043 posts)
23. +1 K&R
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 06:24 PM
Aug 2019

i love Jill Biden, and i'm banking on her hubby's electability.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Skya Rhen

(2,701 posts)
17. She is correct - supporters of Warren and Sanders are convinced that their candidates have a better
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 06:18 PM
Aug 2019

healthcare plan than Biden. That's a fact. This is what they believe. If I am wrong, please let me know...

She is talking to them and saying that the one who can actually beat Trump, in her opinion, would be the best nominee.


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Thekaspervote

(32,778 posts)
29. No I think you are correct and that is what they believe! And the op is certainly entitled to their
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 06:42 PM
Aug 2019

Opinion. Saying that it seems desperate for a woman to stump for her husband...another story

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
18. I do not...in my opinion, it is Biden or Trump.
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 06:20 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

FloridaBlues

(4,008 posts)
25. Dr Biden is supporting her husband, last I looked there's nothing wrong with that
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 06:29 PM
Aug 2019

I wouldn't make too much out of her comment.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
27. Does hyphenating elect-ability have a special meaning?
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 06:33 PM
Aug 2019

I've never seen it spelled that way.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

RelativelyJones

(898 posts)
28. Me neither. Not once. Very strange.
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 06:38 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

elocs

(22,582 posts)
30. Would Humphrey have done better than McGovern who got crushed in 1972?
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 06:44 PM
Aug 2019

Likely he would but many of us then were convinced that anybody we nominated could beat Nixon because, well, it was Nixon.
McGovern was my first presidential vote and I learned that no, you can't nominate just anyone and expect them to defeat a sitting president and in the case of Trump the risk is too great to allow him a shot at winning a second term.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

peggysue2

(10,832 posts)
31. Really?
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 06:48 PM
Aug 2019

Jill Biden mentions 'electability' and this is an issue?

We've mentioned the electability quotient about a gazillion times here on DU. Pundits don't like the word because media types are all about the horserace factor. Other candidates & their supporters don't like the word because they feel it's a dig against them. But here's the thing: electability is EVERYTHING in the 2020 race because otherwise we lose, something we cannot afford to do.

You don't like the world electability. How about likability? Voters want to 'like' a candidate, particularly after living with asshole Trump. How about affability? Voters want a pleasant human being they can connect to, particularly after dealing with asshole Trump.

I could go on but I won't. Electability is a perfectly reasonable quality to consider because all the policies in the world will not be enacted without a solid win in 2020.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Skya Rhen

(2,701 posts)
33. Stop - you are making too much sense!
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 06:55 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LonePirate

(13,424 posts)
32. A less than stirring recommendation from his wife is not going to win voters over to his side.
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 06:50 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
36. Exactly!
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 07:25 PM
Aug 2019

I have thought long and hard on the "electability" or our candidates. First off we have a great bunch of candidates, and many of them are "electable. I don't think anyone picks a candidate that thinks "won't" win.

In the end we will see who the country picks in the primaries, and that person will be "electable". Joe is NOT the only one that can win, not by a long shot!

The end game is simple, whoever is the nominee will get my vote, and we all need to get behind that person, because we can't let trump win another term.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mcar

(42,334 posts)
34. Hillary Clinton kidnapped the Lindbergh baby?
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 07:06 PM
Aug 2019

I neither saw or heard this - and she wasn't born then. But that sounds a little terrible to me.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,314 posts)
35. Electability is a Good Thing especially
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 07:07 PM
Aug 2019

in the Swing States!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

demmiblue

(36,865 posts)
38. Video:
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 07:39 PM
Aug 2019


(They start looping it at the end)
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
41. Joe is electable and so is his healthcare plan. You go Joe and Jill!
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 08:49 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

highplainsdem

(49,004 posts)
42. OMG! Jill Biden says voters should consider electability! Oh, the horror!
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 08:59 PM
Aug 2019



Whether or not you want to believe several of our candidates can defeat Trump, there are plenty of polls showing only Biden, or only Biden and Sanders, beating Trump, while our other top candidates lose to him.

And when voters are polled on the electability of our candidates compared to one another, Joe ALWAYS wins.

I like Elizabeth Warren. I have serious doubts that she can run on Medicare For All and getting rid of private insurance and win the GE.

No matter how popular MFA is with liberal Democrats, it's less popular than the public option with all Democrats.

And it's much less popular with the independents and Republicans we're going to need to have an ELECTORAL COLLEGE victory this time, as opposed to another heartbreaking election where we beat the Republican nominee by millions of votes but lose the electoral college vote.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
46. I love Jill biden...thanks for posting this...she is his best secret weapon...I hope a bunch of
Tue Aug 20, 2019, 08:56 AM
Aug 2019

people saw this...put it on twitter!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Autumn

(45,107 posts)
47. Of course she will say that, he's her husband.
Tue Aug 20, 2019, 09:46 AM
Aug 2019
Any of our leading candidates can beat Trump. And some that aren't in the top yet.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Gothmog

(145,321 posts)
49. Trump campaign is clearly afraid of facing Joe Biden and the argument comparing Trump to Obama.
Tue Aug 20, 2019, 03:36 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DarthDem

(5,255 posts)
52. Silly
Tue Aug 20, 2019, 04:13 PM
Aug 2019

The video makes it quite clear that she meant that a particular person in the audience might think that their candidate is better on health care, but that should not be the end of the inquiry. She's not admitting that Biden is wrong on healthcare compared to the other candidates for the nomination.

And incidentally, wow! She's superbly eloquent and relatable.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,321 posts)
53. Joe Biden still bests fellow Democrats on electability, polls show
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 02:10 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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