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Kamala Harris: Fierce Prosecutor vs the Progressive Activist & Lara Bazelons Big Fail
https://medium.com/@gayleleslie/kamala-harris-fierce-prosecutor-vs-the-progressive-activist-lara-bazelons-big-fail-1f679b70663a
...The impulse to write this piece appeared after the July 31st Democratic debate when Tulsi Gabbard lobbed a turd bomb of ill-informed, self-aggrandizing nuttiness at Kamala Harris. And much as I dont care for Gabbard on so many levels, I was of the opinion that it was time for Harris to sit down with Rachel Maddow or Nicole Wallace in primetime and deconstruct her judicial record as first, San Franciscos District Attorney (2004 to 2011), then as Californias Attorney General (2011 to 2016.) As so many leaning left especially those identifying themselves as leftists have, Gabbard cherry picked some of the most complicated aspects of Harriss criminal justice resume, took the swallowist possible perspective then weaponized that into a sound bite that Harris could not conceivably respond to in sixty seconds....
So recently, as I hear all the truncated criticism of Harris piled on and conflated by opponents, I have been driven to look closer, and oh, what Ive found. I want to start with one person in particular: Lara Bazelon of The New York Times. Her bio says she is a law professor and the former director of the Loyola Law School Project for the Innocent in Los Angeles and she authored the January 17, 2019 article, Kamala Harris Was Not a Progressive Prosecutor for the NYT. I pulled up so many pieces on various aspects of the candidates record in California; time and time again, Lara Bazelon is the first reference, the place from every other liberal journalist described as their baseline line for information. Obviously, I had to check out that article.
To say that I was dumbfounded is putting it politely: Bazelons article is so critically lacking in anything more than cursory research, so lacking in any nuanced, fact based analysis or even necessarily complex narratives, that I could have written this superficial hit piece in the seventh grade. A whole litany of California papers The Los Angeles Times, The Sacramento Bee, SFGate, even Vox, Politico and fucking Wikipedia provided a more thorough, circumspect view of Kamala Harriss prosecutorial past. So while Bazelon was writing to a base already sharing her own narrow liberal lens on criminal justice, it is incomprehensible to me that she is any excuse for an arbiter of candidate Harriss political character. So, Ms. Bazelon, lets try this again....
Kamala Harriss record on criminal justice in California is complicated. Bits are tossed out into the ether like chum to sharks by lazy minds, because they fear Kamala Harris. They fear her unequivocal nature. They fear the precision of her mind. And they fear her unapologetic bullshit detector as the totality of their presence in the world is the sum of their bullshit. To be fair, I would say that about Elizabeth Warren, Kristen Gillibrand and Amy Klobachar as well. But Harris is a particular case because confrontation and precision of mind and speech is what she does best.
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Long, but worth the read.
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betsuni
(25,532 posts)This is correct.
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Princetonian
(1,501 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
EveHammond13
(2,855 posts)I'm not going to let them use that against her.
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mcar
(42,334 posts)Unfortunately complicated enough that many in the media can't get their little heads around it.
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Princetonian
(1,501 posts)Attorney General Kamala Harris argued against Daniel Larsen, who was proven innocent by the Innocence Project, because Harris claimed he filed his petition for release too late after a legal deadline.
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During his trial, Larsens now disbarred attorney did not call a single witness to the stand, including up to nine who could testify that they saw someone else not Larsen throw the knife, the Innocence Project said.
His conviction was overturned in 2009 when a federal judge ruled that his constitutional rights had been violated.
The court found that Larsen had shown he was "actually innocent," that the police officers at Larsens trial were not credible, and that his trial attorney was constitutionally ineffective for failing to call witnesses on his behalf.
But before he was released, California Attorney General Kamala Harris is challenging Larsen's release, saying he hadn't presented proof that he was innocent quickly enough, the Innocence Project said.'
https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Daniel-Larsen-Murder-Conviction-Overturned-Innocence-Project-198996291.html
https://californiainnocenceproject.org/read-their-stories/daniel-larsen/
Man behind bars 2 years after judge orders release
Daniel Larsen was in a California prison serving a life sentence when he received the news he had awaited more than a decade. A federal court in Los Angeles had thrown out his conviction for carrying a concealed knife... But two years after he was supposed to be released, Larsen remains behind bars while the California attorney general appeals the decision. The states main argument: He did not file his legal paperwork seeking release on time.
California Atty. Gen.Kamala D. Harris, whose office maintains that evidence still points to Larsens guilt, accuses him and his attorneys of filing a petition seeking his release more than six years after he was legally required to do so. Prosecutors question whether the judges had the authority to hear Larsens petition for release... Larsens supporters delivered copies of online petitions to the attorney generals office in downtown Los Angeles demanding the mans release... The attorney generals office declined to comment.... U.S. District Judge Christina A. Snyder...ruled that Larsen could be released even though his legal claim missed the federal courts deadlines....Then came the attorney generals appeal. Prosecutors asked that Larsen remain behind bars during the appeal, saying he was a danger to society. Snyder concluded there was no evidence that Larsen posed a public threat. But she delayed her order...He was about 14 days from walking out the door, said one of his attorneys, Wendy Koen, who told Larsen about the appeal during a prison visit... The attorney generals office, in its court filing, cited Congress action in arguing that Larsen missed his chance to seek federal relief... As Larsen remains behind bars, the appeal is slowly winding through the system. In June, the attorney generals office requested a 45-day extension to file its brief. In July, the office asked for an additional 30 days.[f/b]
Combs, his fiancee, said Larsen had been eager to start his new life on the outside.
Then the conversations turned from weeks to months and now its been a year, she said.
The court disagreed with Attorney General Harris, allowing Larsens release in 2013, two years after a judge ordered his release.
In the New York Times early this year, "law professor and the former director of the Loyola Law School Project for the Innocent in Los Angeles" Lara Bazelon lists several more such cases:
That case is not an outlier. Ms. Harris also fought to keep Daniel Larsen in prison on a 28-year-to-life sentence for possession of a concealed weapon even though his trial lawyer was incompetent and there was compelling evidence of his innocence. Relying on a technicality again, Ms. Harris argued that Mr. Larsen failed to raise his legal arguments in a timely fashion. (This time, she lost.)
She also defended Johnny Bacas conviction for murder even though judges found a prosecutor presented false testimony at the trial. She relented only after a video of the oral argument received national attention and embarrassed her office.
And then theres Kevin Cooper, the death row inmate whose trial was infected by racism and corruption. He sought advanced DNA testing to prove his innocence, but Ms. Harris opposed it. (After The New York Timess exposé of the case went viral, she reversed her position.)
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/17/opinion/kamala-harris-criminal-justice.html
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mcar
(42,334 posts)Link to tweet
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@KamalaHarris on truancy: "They wanted me to put more police on the streets. I learned 90% of the homicide victims were high school dropouts. An elementary school truant is 4-5x more likely to be a high school dropout. 82% of the prisoners were dropouts. So I took the issue on.
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elleng
(130,923 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
mcar
(42,334 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
elleng
(130,923 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Princetonian
(1,501 posts)Los Angeles Times, April 17: Harris took that advocacy statewide, sponsoring a 2010 law to make it a misdemeanor for parents whose young children miss more than 10% of school days a year without a valid excuse. Parents could be punished with a maximum $2,000 fine, up to a year in county jail or both.'
When Jake Tapper asked about the state law, she did not tell the truth. 'The possibility of jailing parents was not an unintended consequence, and the bill did not just change the education code. It also created a new section to the California Penal Code, as we have already noted.
Harris knew this, of course... She also said the arrests were not under my watch, and that she had no control over the arrests even though she sponsored the state law that allowed for the arrests, and her office provided guidance to local district attorneys on when prosecutions should and should not be made.'
Source: https://www.factcheck.org/2019/05/kamala-harris-spins-facts-on-truancy-law/
When a Biden campaign advisor described Harris as "slippery" after the first debate, they weren't kidding: https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/12/kamala-harris-biden-debate-busing-1414911
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brush
(53,782 posts)They were angry that she called Biden on his unforced error of seeming to reminisce fondly of working with segregationists.
If she hadn't called him on it Booker would have. And Biden has not repeated that story since.
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Andy823
(11,495 posts)Of course it seems like it's always the same posters who jump in to trash Harris, while defending Gabbard, and claiming they support Biden. I think they have a different agenda that helping Democrats.
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StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brush
(53,782 posts)which ask: "Which one does not belong?"
Now with some time to view it in hindsight Harris was an apparent threat to somebody and a mole was placed to take her out.
The question is the somebody within the party or outside of the party.
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Princetonian
(1,501 posts)I believe NYT articles with proper attribution such as Lara Baselon's noteworthy piece on Kamala Harris earlier this year which has no less than 17 source attributions! Sadly, Baselon has been the target of seemingly deliberately misrepresentative attacks.
I noted that the OP offers no link to the article which it makes false claims about so here is the link to the truthful and informative NYT critique about Harris by Lara Baselon that has impeccable sources that are not tainted by partisan pablum: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/17/opinion/kamala-harris-criminal-justice.html
Sharing facts from impeccable sources is not attacking someone:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=249770
Similarly, defending someone against a baseless smear campaign designed to deflect from that fact sharing is not promoting someone. It is promoting the truth:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=246874
to thesquanderer
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ismnotwasm
(41,984 posts)And then a couple of DU linksof all thingsthat basically regurgitate the flawed NYT article?
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Princetonian
(1,501 posts)Last edited Fri Aug 23, 2019, 01:58 AM - Edit history (1)
You are being misleading about the breadth of content in my annotated DU links here:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=250494
None "regugitate" anything but each state facts based on impeccable sources. Do you hope that people will take your word for it without clicking on the links to see for themselves if what you say is correct?
Truth over lies.
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mcar
(42,334 posts)Someone(s) wanted to shut Harris down.
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Princetonian
(1,501 posts)Last edited Fri Aug 23, 2019, 06:29 AM - Edit history (2)
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/28/kamala-harris-joe-biden-debate-1390383
Perhaps Gabbard did exactly what Harris did months before the first debate?
Anderson Cooper asks former Vice Chair of the Democratic National Committee, Iraq War veteran and National Guard member Representative Tulsi Gabbard this very question, mcar:
Pot meet kettle.
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ismnotwasm
(41,984 posts)Has an opinion.
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Princetonian
(1,501 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brush
(53,782 posts)He hasn't told it since though. Wonder why?
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Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided